Hello, RVF. I've been a long time lurker, and I appreciate all the content that I've benefited from. Gonna have to say it's a shame my first post is a call for even more help with a personal conundrum.
Bit of background, I live in an Asian country, 151lbs 5'7-5'8 Asian Male.
Background for the girl: I met her at a club a few weeks back. 1 week after I saw her after work (she works at the club), she went with me for "supper," made out and heavy petting in the cab. Sent her home after that, logistics were not conducive to the lay.
She did not accept my offer to meet her outside a club (I chose Wednesday, could have been because she was working, legit busy).
Next time I saw her was a few hours back, which is where my problem starts.
I was out at a club, messaged her to ask where she was as a random ping (she already rejected my day date). Responded an hour later, saying she was at another club about 1.5 miles away. No luck at my current club, including gaming after club close. She was technically still "warm" so I headed out to the other club. Managed to get in while it was closing, got eyes on her, called, followed her out. Everything smooth so far.
Tried to pull her to somewhere (anywhere). She claimed she had to send her friends at another club home, club was ~5miles away, taxi distance, not walking distance. She was standing really close to me (faces 2 inches apart), I took that as an indication that she wasn't completely cold to me. Seemed really reluctant to have me come along. I was drunk at this point, so I insisted. The club she was going to closes the latest in that city, so there would probably be something to do.
(MISTAKE IDENTIFIED, SHOULD HAVE LEFT TO BE LESS NEEDY)
Followed her to club in cab, significantly less touchy as compared to the last time. Still did not resist my touch, touched her arm, waist, middle thigh. No resistance.
When arrived she called someone. Up to this point, I had assumed her friends would be girls, because it doesn't make sense to worry about a guy friend not being able to go home.
--SOCIAL SITUATION STARTS HERE--
Arrived at friend's location, it was a depressed looking dude, kind of doughy and nerdy. (detail important for later)
Along with this depressed dude (he was sitting) was this rather large dude, I would say not ripped but definitely works out, perhaps 180lbs (definitely larger than me).
Chick went to sit beside the sad guy, no choice, had to talk to the large guy.
Guy crossed his arms, kept them crossed the whole time, sign of hostility?
I was slightly drunk still, so I took this as a normal social situation and tried to be friendly. To be fair to him, the standing guy was quite responsive to my questions (regular attempts to deep dive, get everyone to like me). Very very secretive about things like his job and his girlfriend (what?).
Told me he was in government sector, but refused to tell me what exactly. From his build, can probably deduce he is military or a policeman. Refused to answer completely after I probed and guessed a bit.
Enquired about his relationship status. Told me he had no FBs and no girlfriend. Not possible for a guy with his looks and sociability. Began to have suspicions at this point. Began giving hints that I should leave. Said that girl was going for breakfast with them (2 guys), girl mentioned she had something on after sending the friends home. Mother fucker was lying.
Conversation died down a bit. I called my friends to ask about their lays from that night. Only made me more depressed because I was the only one who did not get any![[Image: sad.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/sad.gif)
After I hung up on the last one, he prompted me to leave again. Started dropping hints that the doughy guy and the chick were a couple and that I shouldn't interfere. I look at doughy guy and![[Image: huh.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/huh.gif)
That is like a friendzoned guy to be sure. The way the chick is talking to him also doesn't fit the description of a boyfriend. No touching at all on a bench, they were like facing forward on a bench.
Started to realize that something was up. Talked some bullshit with standing guy. His prompts for me to leave got more insistent, but he was still friendly, to be fair. This must have been the friendliest cockblocker I've ever seen.
Made a call to one more friend to tell him I was on my way home (as a show to this fucker, I was not getting laid tonight and I knew it). Told him that I would leave. SUDDENLY ASKED ME IF I MADE OUT WITH THE CHICK IN THE CAB.
???
I told him that that info's confidential, like his job. He said he could simply ask her. I told him then why don't you do that. Immediately left after saying my goodbyes to the girl.
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Need some advice on what happened here. My own inference points that the depressed guy is some drunk fuck who can't find his way home safely by himself. Chick is simply concerned. Her main liaison was with the standing guy though, which makes me think that the standing dude is a friendzoned guy who wants in on the pussy party.
From what I can see, he's trying to get me to get lost so that he can take her home and do whatever goes well there.
Question now is: can the forum help me deceipher what the hell just went on here? I'm new to this kind of conflict and I don't know how to respond correctly. What is the correct way to respond to this?
My approach was to make the dude like me (guy was bigger than me, easily fuck me up), using Influence/Dale Carnegie tactics. Also revealed little about myself (told him I work at mcdonalds' lol).
This is not oneitis of the chick, btw, I'm seeing a few other girls at the same time. Just need to know what I could have done/should have done to ensure a lay.
Bit of background, I live in an Asian country, 151lbs 5'7-5'8 Asian Male.
Background for the girl: I met her at a club a few weeks back. 1 week after I saw her after work (she works at the club), she went with me for "supper," made out and heavy petting in the cab. Sent her home after that, logistics were not conducive to the lay.
She did not accept my offer to meet her outside a club (I chose Wednesday, could have been because she was working, legit busy).
Next time I saw her was a few hours back, which is where my problem starts.
I was out at a club, messaged her to ask where she was as a random ping (she already rejected my day date). Responded an hour later, saying she was at another club about 1.5 miles away. No luck at my current club, including gaming after club close. She was technically still "warm" so I headed out to the other club. Managed to get in while it was closing, got eyes on her, called, followed her out. Everything smooth so far.
Tried to pull her to somewhere (anywhere). She claimed she had to send her friends at another club home, club was ~5miles away, taxi distance, not walking distance. She was standing really close to me (faces 2 inches apart), I took that as an indication that she wasn't completely cold to me. Seemed really reluctant to have me come along. I was drunk at this point, so I insisted. The club she was going to closes the latest in that city, so there would probably be something to do.
(MISTAKE IDENTIFIED, SHOULD HAVE LEFT TO BE LESS NEEDY)
Followed her to club in cab, significantly less touchy as compared to the last time. Still did not resist my touch, touched her arm, waist, middle thigh. No resistance.
When arrived she called someone. Up to this point, I had assumed her friends would be girls, because it doesn't make sense to worry about a guy friend not being able to go home.
--SOCIAL SITUATION STARTS HERE--
Arrived at friend's location, it was a depressed looking dude, kind of doughy and nerdy. (detail important for later)
Along with this depressed dude (he was sitting) was this rather large dude, I would say not ripped but definitely works out, perhaps 180lbs (definitely larger than me).
Chick went to sit beside the sad guy, no choice, had to talk to the large guy.
Guy crossed his arms, kept them crossed the whole time, sign of hostility?
I was slightly drunk still, so I took this as a normal social situation and tried to be friendly. To be fair to him, the standing guy was quite responsive to my questions (regular attempts to deep dive, get everyone to like me). Very very secretive about things like his job and his girlfriend (what?).
Told me he was in government sector, but refused to tell me what exactly. From his build, can probably deduce he is military or a policeman. Refused to answer completely after I probed and guessed a bit.
Enquired about his relationship status. Told me he had no FBs and no girlfriend. Not possible for a guy with his looks and sociability. Began to have suspicions at this point. Began giving hints that I should leave. Said that girl was going for breakfast with them (2 guys), girl mentioned she had something on after sending the friends home. Mother fucker was lying.
Conversation died down a bit. I called my friends to ask about their lays from that night. Only made me more depressed because I was the only one who did not get any
After I hung up on the last one, he prompted me to leave again. Started dropping hints that the doughy guy and the chick were a couple and that I shouldn't interfere. I look at doughy guy and
That is like a friendzoned guy to be sure. The way the chick is talking to him also doesn't fit the description of a boyfriend. No touching at all on a bench, they were like facing forward on a bench.
Started to realize that something was up. Talked some bullshit with standing guy. His prompts for me to leave got more insistent, but he was still friendly, to be fair. This must have been the friendliest cockblocker I've ever seen.
Made a call to one more friend to tell him I was on my way home (as a show to this fucker, I was not getting laid tonight and I knew it). Told him that I would leave. SUDDENLY ASKED ME IF I MADE OUT WITH THE CHICK IN THE CAB.
???
I told him that that info's confidential, like his job. He said he could simply ask her. I told him then why don't you do that. Immediately left after saying my goodbyes to the girl.
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Need some advice on what happened here. My own inference points that the depressed guy is some drunk fuck who can't find his way home safely by himself. Chick is simply concerned. Her main liaison was with the standing guy though, which makes me think that the standing dude is a friendzoned guy who wants in on the pussy party.
From what I can see, he's trying to get me to get lost so that he can take her home and do whatever goes well there.
Question now is: can the forum help me deceipher what the hell just went on here? I'm new to this kind of conflict and I don't know how to respond correctly. What is the correct way to respond to this?
My approach was to make the dude like me (guy was bigger than me, easily fuck me up), using Influence/Dale Carnegie tactics. Also revealed little about myself (told him I work at mcdonalds' lol).
This is not oneitis of the chick, btw, I'm seeing a few other girls at the same time. Just need to know what I could have done/should have done to ensure a lay.