[The Duke]

(05-08-2011 09:03 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

These women dont pretend to put up with beta game to further the guise of gender equality, but instead outwardly demand that men behave according to the natural law (which states that men behave dominantly). There is no hypocrisy here, no doubetalk, and no confusion for younger developing guys.

I saw this in Serbia. Some call it machismo. I call it barbarianism. The girls there definitely like cavemen. Should take a good couple decades before they evolve to how it is in Western Europe/USA.

At first I was a little frustrated by girls saying "I'm a good girl" when really they wanted to be date raped. After a while, I figured out how it works there. Girls in the West more straightforward in this regard -- less doubletalk and confusion. Western girls are not afraid to act like a slut when they want to.

[hydrogonian]

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I saw this in Serbia. Some call it machismo. I call it barbarianism. The girls there definitely like cavemen. Should take a good couple decades before they evolve to how it is in Western Europe/USA.

I would call it devolution. Trust me. Once they devolve, it'll ruin the culture for men.

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At first I was a little frustrated by girls saying "I'm a good girl" when really they wanted to be date raped.

I don't know about the term 'rape', but I get what you mean, and many western women do that as well. Western women may just put up less token resistance once you do make a move.

The resistance from more feminine women is almost always just a test of your machismo. No big deal once you learn to plow past it. In eastern Europe, it sounds like that plowing just needs to be a little more caveman. No big deal.

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After a while, I figured out how it works there. Girls in the West more straightforward in this regard -- less doubletalk and confusion. Western girls are not afraid to act like a slut when they want to.

Yeah, but you lose so much in femininity just because you prefer that a girl tell you that she's a slut (in so many words or actions) rather than just assuming that she is, having the balls to act on that assumption, and being right. I understand why she resists even though she wants you to plow. Its a result of the natural masculine / feminine power difference that makes the dynamic hotter for both of you.


And, remember, you were born to be a barbarian! You can't, or shouldn't, fight your true nature. Ou society may have evolved / devolved but your biology has not, and neither has hers.

[familydude]

Can we hear from someone who's been to both the Baltic and the Balkans? Subutai? I think this is what the thread is supposed to be about.

I quickly looked into doing the move from the Balkan peninsula to Tallinn but the price increase wasn't too appealing.

[Roosh]

Yesterday I talked to a Polish guy who travels for work. He's been everywhere and I posed the Balkans vs Baltics question and he said the Baltics are not worth a visit because it's expensive, tourist infested, and girls are not better than other countries. He said to focus on..

-Ukraine (hotter girls than Poland)
-Slovakia ("hottest girls in Europe")
-Moldova (hot but not easy)
-Macedonia (similar to Moldova)

His assessment of Scandinavian and Polish girls matched mine, so I'm ready to lean towards his judgement and focus more on the Balkans.

[Mr.GM]

(05-09-2011 09:07 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yesterday I talked to a Polish guy who travels for work. He's been everywhere and I posed the Balkans vs Baltics question and he said the Baltics are not worth a visit because it's expensive, tourist infested, and girls are not better than other countries. He said to focus on..

-Ukraine (hotter girls than Poland)
-Slovakia ("hottest girls in Europe")
-Moldova (hot but not easy)
-Macedonia (similar to Moldova)

His assessment of Scandinavian and Polish girls matched mine, so I'm ready to lean towards his judgement and focus more on the Balkans.

Good call.
I also heard a very similar impression from a friend that visited the region.

[billy]

(05-06-2011 08:50 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

So where the women going? Have you been to Tartu?

Sorry for the late reply, current prices now the Euro has arrived, and the late arrival of sunshine has seriously dented local girls ability to go out on weekdays is my best guess .
Alcohol is OK price wise but a supermarket shop for 2.5 days food cost me 140 euros for three people.

I really enjoyed tartu but went there day times in late in summer and found it had a nice vibe and lots of student girls walking every where. It also has a great Italian place with a proper pizza oven and some of the best home made ice cream I have had anywhere including plenty of michelin star restaurants. I would highly reccomend Tartu but when the University closes for summer I would guess that the girls leave.
More laid back vibe thatn Tallinn, friendly students but less night life on offer than tallinn and I have only been to one bar there, the tallest pub in the world its called and nice it was too.
I am not sure when I am back there but I will try to make it a weekend so I can give some more helpful advice.

[Pepini]

I depends of what you´re looking for Roosh.

Girls from the Balkans have a more latin and mediterranean look. They have better bodies in my perspective.
Girls form Baltics are more blueyed blondes.

In terms of easiness on hooking up, a guy with your features will stand out more in the baltics. But I also have a latin look and had success with the croatians. It´s slightly easier to score in the baltics.

You´re in a win/win situation, any choice you make you won´t regret it, but in the summer I would go for the balkans.

[K-man]

I have not been to the Baltics, but the Latvian family that spends each summer at the beach in Bulgaria say prices are way higher back home.
So I say cost-wise Balkans are better.

Women-wise... gotta say this guy's daughter is a pretty hot Latvian teenager, and if she represents a typical Latvian, girls there are hot. Couldn't say better or worse than Bulgarians, but a very different type - blonde, blue-eyed, tall, vs. shorter, darker, more mixed-race Mediterranean look down here.

Food - Balkan cuisine has borrowed a lot from the Greek and Turkish ones, so I'm sure Roosh, if you like your Mom's home-cooked meals you gotta find something you like here. Baltic cuisine I'm not familiar with, I haven't heard about it being world-famous. If it's anything like next-door Netherlands... suffice it to say when I go to Amsterdam (every couple of months on business) I eat at KFC now after having tried the local meals.

Weather - in summertime it may be cooler and nicer in the Baltics vs. the Balkans where it is usually 30-35 degrees C during July/August. However, this means beach and warm water in the sea, so many tourists come for vacation here. Plus, it's very nice in the evenings and if you do night game primarily the weather is the best (or at the beach you can run day game too, people won't notice you are sweaty and smelly)

So, I say, the score is 0.5:3.5 for the Balkans, with quality of women being the only area where they are equal, and everything else - win for the Balkans.

[Rurik]

(05-09-2011 09:07 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yesterday I talked to a Polish guy who travels for work. He's been everywhere and I posed the Balkans vs Baltics question and he said the Baltics are not worth a visit because it's expensive, tourist infested, and girls are not better than other countries. He said to focus on..

-Ukraine (hotter girls than Poland)
-Slovakia ("hottest girls in Europe")
-Moldova (hot but not easy)
-Macedonia (similar to Moldova)

His assessment of Scandinavian and Polish girls matched mine, so I'm ready to lean towards his judgement and focus more on the Balkans.

Sounds good.

[Deb Auchery]

First of all you guys need to know which countries are Balkan Countries, Slovakia is NOT a Balkan country(been there once and didn't like the place). Nor is Romania, Ukraine or Moldova

I lived in Serbia for three years, they are the hottest girls in the Balkans(and amongst the hottest in the world), there are many Serbian supermodels. The Serbian men are also amongst the best looking, but this is more down to sheer size sometimes, a lot of women travel to Serbia to fuck Serbian men

But unfortunately the girls are not easy, Serbian culture is not too dissimilar to Italian culture.

Forget Montenegro, girls are even harder there and also more tribal. Bosnian women are pretty hot, but it's also and less civilised. Croatian women can be hot, but not as hot as the Serbs. Slovenia chicks are famous for being the easiest lays in the Balkans, they travel to Belgrade for new years to fuck.

Macedonia?, forget it, not much of a place apart from some nice scenery

[The Fantasist]

(03-12-2012 08:32 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

The Serbian men are also amongst the best looking, but this is more down to sheer size sometimes, a lot of women travel to Serbia to fuck Serbian men

True.

Never been to Serbia but met many Serb guys in London or ones who were flight crewing on international airlines. They've almost always been very good looking dudes with good physiques and a good alpha attitude. I would MUCH rather be in a club where Ukrainian or Bulgarian guys are my competition then a Serb. Nice guys to talk to though.

[Deb Auchery]

Yep Serb people are generally friendly and intelligent. Also despite their size they are gentle people.

[calex]

(03-12-2012 08:32 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

First of all you guys need to know which countries are Balkan Countries, Slovakia is NOT a Balkan country(been there once and didn't like the place). Nor is Romania, Ukraine or Moldova

I lived in Serbia for three years, they are the hottest girls in the Balkans(and amongst the hottest in the world), there are many Serbian supermodels. The Serbian men are also amongst the best looking, but this is more down to sheer size sometimes, a lot of women travel to Serbia to fuck Serbian men

But unfortunately the girls are not easy, Serbian culture is not too dissimilar to Italian culture.

Forget Montenegro, girls are even harder there and also more tribal. Bosnian women are pretty hot, but it's also and less civilised. Croatian women can be hot, but not as hot as the Serbs. Slovenia chicks are famous for being the easiest lays in the Balkans, they travel to Belgrade for new years to fuck.

Macedonia?, forget it, not much of a place apart from some nice scenery

All true, and to the point. Best info on the region i saw around here.

(03-12-2012 10:35 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(03-12-2012 08:32 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

The Serbian men are also amongst the best looking, but this is more down to sheer size sometimes, a lot of women travel to Serbia to fuck Serbian men

True.

Never been to Serbia but met many Serb guys in London or ones who were flight crewing on international airlines. They've almost always been very good looking dudes with good physiques and a good alpha attitude. I would MUCH rather be in a club where Ukrainian or Bulgarian guys are my competition then a Serb. Nice guys to talk to though.

(03-12-2012 10:39 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Yep Serb people are generally friendly and intelligent. Also despite their size they are gentle people.

Can't argue with these either, heheh. If you are looking to game in Serbia, the best time would be around the new years (both of them, we have two) - chances are you'll snag some Slovenian or Croat girls, but there's nothing wrong with that.

[Greek kamaki]

If anyone asked me I would suggest that he avoids both the Balkans and the Baltics.The Balkans are very tricky and too much of an insider place while the Baltics have been completely played out after the entrance of Baltic countries into EU.