[jariel]

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Is the joke on the joker?

After years of serial womanizing, sources close to Jack Nicholson say the perennial A-lister is “afraid of dying alone.”

Nicholson, speaking with Closer magazine, admitted that while he craves affection, he’s skeptical he’ll find love again, in part due to his age, and the playboy reputation that precedes him.

“I would love that one last romance,” the Chinatown star said. “But I’m not very realistic about it happening. What I can’t deny is my yearning.

“We don’t always do the right thing, say the right thing and behave the way we always want to behave.”

Of course, the legendary Hollywood ladies’ man has been in Tinseltown romances with beauties such as Anjelica Huston, Bebe Buell, Lara Flynn Boyle and Rebecca Broussard, among others over the years.

The Batman star said that while he’s “definitely still wild at heart,” his core values have shifted at the age of 77.

“I can’t hit on women in public anymore — I didn’t decide this; it just doesn’t feel right at my age,” the iconic actor said.

Once the life of the party, the As Good as It Gets star is also said to be taking a turn for the reclusive in his later years, something an eyewitness at a recent art exhibition (Nicholson was at) picked up on.

“He didn’t want to draw much attention; he wanted to be left alone,” artist Katrien Van der Schueren told the magazine.

The One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest star’s kids have been nudging him to downsize from his ample Hollywood Hills mansion for “a more manageable place in Beverly Hills,” but he’s resisted, a source said.

Despite to keep things as is, the stability hasn’t brought peace to the world’s most famous basketball fan.

“He’s afraid of dying alone in that house,” the insider said.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/0...omanizing/

[philosophical_recovery]

I think of Hunter S. Thompson, who said "fuck this" shot himself in the head, then had his friend Johnny Depp fire his ashes out of a goddamn cannon.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Person rich enough to hire dozens of servants and get women 30+ years younger is afraid of dying alone. Ok.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-14-2015 02:15 AM)jariel Wrote:  

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“He’s afraid of dying alone in that house,” the insider said.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/0...omanizing/

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"Insider said" is euphemism for "I pulled that out of my ass".

I was once friends to the mother and sister of a celebrity. I even went to clubs with her sister. They told me that 90% of the stories the media wrote about her - about that very sister or mother having talked to the media was bullshit. They never talked to anyone - the media just made things up. When they have real sources they always quote rather clear-cut, unless the quote is too boring - then they make things up.



Jack Nicholson alone and unhappy? Get the fuck out of here - he has children and has a connection with them. He has friends - close friends - not only Hollywood cokeheads - friends in business, art - billionaires like Jack Welch, gets invited to parties, events, orgies, reunions with friends and families non-stop etc.

How is his life different to the average widower? I tell you how: It's much more awesome.

All they noticed is him going to an art exhibition more or less incognito and saying that he does not think that he will fall in love again. Please! That means nothing!

It reminds me of this meme of the feminine imperative: "You will die alone! Man-up and marry me already!" NO - women are the ones who suffer that kind of loneliness more!


Rollo even had an entire post on that topic:
http://therationalmale.com/2011/09/12/th...y-old-man/

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The fear of loneliness is entirely too exaggerated in modern western romanticism. The popularized fear-mythology of becoming the “lonely old man who never loved” is the new ‘old maid’ myth made popular in an era when a woman’s worth was dependent upon her marital status and (at least now) equally as false a premise. But in our brave new ‘Generation AFC’, men (who’ve become women) are repackaged and shamed into believing this horse-shit as part & parcel of feminized gender role reversal.

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When used from a feminized perspective this myth is most certainly a ‘shaming’ social convention with the latent function of getting men to commit to a feminine frame – “you better change yourself soon, or your soulmate might pass you by and you’ll be lonely and desolate in your old age”. That’s the feminized use of the myth, however, the internalized AFC use of the myth is a Buffer. This then becomes his rationale for settling for a substandard LTR or marriage.

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Don’t buy into the powder-puff idea that if you don’t find your mythological soulmate ONE by the time you’re 30 and ASAP you’ll tempt fate and risk a life of quiet desperation. This contrivance only serves the interests of women who’s imperative it is to enjoy their party years in their 20′s with as many Alphas as they can attract and have a stable Nice Guy who’s petrified he’ll live a life of loneliness and desperation waiting for them at 28-30 to marry and ensure their long term security.

Don’t buy this lie. The man who is comfortable with himself and confident in his true independence is the one that women will want to be associated with and to share in it. How you handle being alone and what you do with the opportunities that freedom allows is the real measure of a man. If you’re single and 50 you STILL have options if you’re only brave enough to explore them. I know divorced men in their 50s who’re dating mid 30s women right now and I know men in their 60s who’ve been trapped and emotionally blackmailed by their wives for 30 years. Mariage is no insulation from the sexual marketplace.

The article follows closely the current feminine narrative - it might have been written to Leo DiCaprio who so much resembles Jack Nicholson. See Leo and the few high value men we want! Marry me or die alone like Jack Nicholson.

There may be lonely and socially awkward guys out there - even celebrities, but Jack's frame is way too strong. He is a true Alpha and Alpha is doing fine unless there are physical reasons for his demise, but that can hit anyone.

I think Jack is laughing his ass off at the article:

[CactusCat589]

Are those quotes attributed to Nicholson true though? They don't ring true as something he would say. Even if he felt that way, he'd keep it to himself.

[jariel]

(01-14-2015 02:50 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I was once friends to the mother and sister of a celebrity. I even went to clubs with her sister. They told me that 90% of the stories the media wrote about her - about that very sister or mother having talked to the media was bullshit. They never talked to anyone - the media just made things up. When they have real sources they always quote rather clear-cut, unless the quote is too boring - then they make things up.

I agree, but these celebrities also give a lot of access to the media, how else would bored housewives know that Celebrity X and Celebrity Y are riding dirt bikes in the middle-of-nowhere?

I laugh when they complain about the lack of privacy, when one, they choose to be in the spotlight, and two, they often tell the cameras where they're going to be and what's going on.

[speakeasy]

Another article mentioned that he said he's lonely. I don't know whether he actually said this or not. But we really don't know what's going on inside someone's private life judging only by the media. A lot of people we think should be having a blast because they are rich and famous are actually miserable. None of us here know what his private life is like. We only see what the media and his PR team allows us.

[kosko]

The crappy Lakers are literally killing Jack's soul.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-14-2015 04:16 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Another article mentioned that he said he's lonely. I don't know whether he actually said this or not. But we really don't know what's going on inside someone's private life judging only by the media. A lot of people we think should be having a blast because they are rich and famous are actually miserable. None of us here know what his private life is like. We only see what the media and his PR team allows us.

Being famous and rich bring their own subset of problems.

But it comes down to this:

1. Simple Vitamin- mineral deficiency - many people from my environment or even just me - we all improved our moods by taking good orthomolecular supplements - some even need a daily dose of L-tryptophan or HTP - that's just the way we are built - if the medical mafia were not corrupt they would tell people that those supplements work 100x better than any anti-depressant they have so far

2. Drugs - since stars get drugs sometimes for free and can afford it - plus also having lifestyles which make it possible for them to take them a lot versus Wallstreet guys or lawyers who have to be sharp on Monday morning - all of it just makes it easier for them to fall off the wagon. There are countless celebrities who do rehabs - also those drugs are effectively toxins depleting the body of essential nutrients making depressions more likely

3. Delusions of grandeur and isolation - many celebrities get their asses kissed so often and surround themselves by ass-licking or star-struck people 24/7 that they start to live in their own deluded reality. Part of it is true that they are getting paranoid because they don't know if someone really likes them or whether it is just for their fame - the extremely wealthy have the same problem.
The family of the celebrity I was friends with - her mother and her sister hadn't had much contact in years, because that singer did not like her mother talking back to her. She also divorced from her husband because he was the same. Her ex-husband had a better relationship with her own mother, because he was more honest and did not give shit about her fame - just like her own family.
When celebrities cut themselves off from the REAL world - their real friends, family etc. and try to live in their Jackson-like-la-la-land, then they are on their way to looney-town. That's why many have celebrity or very wealthy powerful friends, because those people are not impressed by their fame. But sometimes it's just an excuse - they meet other celebrities to feel more "in" going into more delusions together.

I don't think that Jack Nicholson falls under category 3 - he may have had problems with point 1 or 2. Point 1 is actually something that many people have experienced - famous or not.

In any case celebrity gossip magazines are the worst - unless you know Jack yourself you don't know anything. And his real friends will likely never talk to the media about his problems, so it's all bullshit. The trope is the typical feminist meme that serves women.

[ChrisPitts]

If this is what they call dying alone now, then I know a shit ton of guys who would like to join him.

(01-14-2015 02:15 AM)jariel Wrote:  

[vinman]

(01-14-2015 07:36 AM)ChrisPitts Wrote:  

If this is what they call dying alone now, then I know a shit ton of guys who would like to join him.

(01-14-2015 02:15 AM)jariel Wrote:  

Yeah, where do I sign up to have a long lingering lonely death like Jack?

[Bobco]

You are going to die alone is a threat I have heard many times from lizards that were not getting the relationship that they wanted out of me. It is no threat as far as I am concerned.

[Sonsowey]

I don't think it's strange to want to have a relationship and a family.

I guess some guys don't want that, but it's obviously one of the most "natural" instincts out there, otherwise where would the human race be?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

I think he's the boss and not lonely at all.
But I do think he has become a bit of a fat fuck. I would never let that happen to myself. There is no reason besides crippling injury/illness that any man can't maintain a Jack Lalanne type dedication to physical fitness for his whole life. Unless you are a wartime president of a major country, you can always find at least 30 minutes in a day if not double that to maintain yourself without fucking up your other responsibilities. It's not just about being able to bang, it's about your energy level and your day to day health.

[joseywales]

Even if this were true, it would still show that men hit the wall 40 years later than women.

[General Mayhem]

(01-14-2015 02:15 AM)jariel Wrote:  

“I would love that one last romance,” the Chinatown star said. “But I’m not very realistic about it happening. What I can’t deny is my yearning.

The Batman star said that while he’s “definitely still wild at heart,” his core values have shifted at the age of 77.

Once the life of the party, the As Good as It Gets star is also said to be taking a turn for the reclusive in his later years, something an eyewitness at a recent art exhibition (Nicholson was at) picked up on.

The One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest star’s kids have been nudging him to downsize from his ample Hollywood Hills mansion for “a more manageable place in Beverly Hills,” but he’s resisted, a source said.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/0...omanizing/

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The actual writing of this article is so poor that I can't believe the story.

[Quintus Curtius]

I detect a bit of shaming in this article.

Who isn't afraid of dying alone? It's a fear that must be confronted and faced by all. No one is exempt.

But the reality is that all of us--yes, even you married guys--will die alone.

When the boatman Charon transports his fares across the river Styx, he accepts single passengers only.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-14-2015 12:46 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I detect a bit of shaming in this article.

Who isn't afraid of dying alone? It's a fear that must be confronted and faced by all. No one is exempt.

But the reality is that all of us--yes, even you married guys--will die alone.

When the boatman Charon transports his fares across the river Styx, he accepts single passengers only.

Some are just better at it - I am like Bukowski, so I don't care really - I could spend my lat 30 years alone on a distant planet and would be happy enough:

   

The loneliness when surrounded by uncaring people is in my opinion worse.

[TheWastelander]

That dying alone crap is all part of the "don't you want people there to comfort you as you're dying" nonsense.

While it would be nice, depending on how you go out (which none of us can predict), the person who uses this line is trying to manipulate you through shaming and playing on your primeval fears. That's not what a truly loving person would do and that's probably not the kind of person you want around you as you take your last breaths.

When you think about it, it doesn't really matter if there are people there to comfort you through it since you're gonna die anyway. You're going to be making that journey alone. What matters is if you've lived your life to the fullest and without regret and whether or not you're ready for what comes after.

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And now, the end is here
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I traveled each and ev'ry highway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

Regrets, I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention
I did what I had to do and saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew
But through it all, when there was doubt
I ate it up and spit it out
I faced it all and I stood tall and did it my way

I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing
To think I did all that
And may I say, not in a shy way,
"Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way"

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels
The record shows I took the blows and did it my way!

[Renzy]

So men had better get married or else they'll end up as sad pitiful creatures who die alone. A fate that married men won't have to face...

I bet Robin Williams would have gotten a kick out of that.

[Pride male]

Is it true Casanova died alone bemoaning his life of debauchery?

[Slim Shady]

(01-14-2015 12:54 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 12:46 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I detect a bit of shaming in this article.

Who isn't afraid of dying alone? It's a fear that must be confronted and faced by all. No one is exempt.

But the reality is that all of us--yes, even you married guys--will die alone.

When the boatman Charon transports his fares across the river Styx, he accepts single passengers only.

Some are just better at it - I am like Bukowski, so I don't care really - I could spend my lat 30 years alone on a distant planet and would be happy enough:



The loneliness when surrounded by uncaring people is in my opinion worse.

Going off on a small tangent here, i think that pride in and even "necessity" of solitude only works when one has an audience for it. If there is no OPTION of not having your solitude broken, suddenly it becomes a lot more suffocating. It is only when you are CHOOSING to be solitary and push away the rest of the stupid world that it makes sense. It is an active thing; a statement.

[Travesty]

^ Renzy made things right in this thread.

There is no perfect end. Be glad you lived this long.