[j r]

That writer, Amanda Hess, is never right about anything. I read her column every once in a while just to see how incorrect someone can be about a given topic.

She also looks like a boy. I have a feeling those two things are related.

[Sourcecode]

Jonah Hill was with this

now hes with this


not bad for a fat man

[Days of Broken Arrows]

The Father of the Manosphere, F. Roger Devlin, addressed this in a 2007 in a review/essay on Wendy Shalit's book "Girls Gone Mild."

"When women claim to be seeking kindness, respect, a sense of humor, etc., they mean at most that they would like to find these qualities in the men who are already within their erotic field of view. When a man asks what women are looking for, he is trying to find out how he can get into that field of view. Women do not normally say, either because they do not know themselves or because it embarrasses them to speak about it. The advice they do give harms a lot of lonely men who mistakenly concentrate their mating effort on showing kindness and courtesy to ungrateful brats rather than working to gain the things females actually respond to."

This essay, along with his multi-part "Home Economics" essay, helped form Roissy's worldview (here is Roissy quoting him a year later). This, in turn gave us the manosphere, piece by piece. Problem is that few people know it originated from Devlin.

Since Devlin was associated with Occidental Quarterly -- criticized as a white nationalist publication -- he's not well-known and most people won't quote him if they read him at all. But he had some original ideas. If he didn't invent the idea of "hypergamy" he made it commonplace. Here are links to his most important work:

Link to the Shalit essay/review here.
Link to "Home Economics" essay here.

[Hotwheels]

(01-21-2014 10:09 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Jonah Hill was with this

now hes with this


not bad for a fat man

Without the cash and fame he's without her.

[pheonix500000]

(01-21-2014 06:51 AM)Draugr Wrote:  

What drives comedians is rage, deep down anger. Women run from that.

wait what?

[MrXY]

Wanna be pro comedians and the "funny guy" in a social circle are inherently try hard and women recognize that

What women do like is a situationally based rapier wit, especially if it is tinged at times with cruelty

[Collide]

"You know how they always say women like a guy with a sense of humor… turns out they just laugh at handsome guys." - Norm Macdonald

[Vaun]

I can assure you everything with Gilbert is a complete act. Much younger wife, beautiful family, rich as hell, he's an entertainer and done very well as a result. The viral buzz around this article alone will probably earn him another mil. Game recognized.

[Draugr]

@phoenix,

I am speaking of rage, not young guy angst, or meathead spastic anger, but the dark roiling currents of hate that would make a man bite the heads off of kittens.

[DJ-Matt]

(01-21-2014 10:09 PM)puckman Wrote:  

I can assure you everything with Gilbert is a complete act. Much younger wife, beautiful family, rich as hell, he's an entertainer and done very well as a result. The viral buzz around this article alone will probably earn him another mil. Game recognized.

This. His voice used during the act isn't real, and one of his albums I've got actually has him mentioning he "can't keep it going much longer". I'm guessing like Larry The Cable Guy there are YouTube videos of his real voice.

[pheonix500000]

(01-21-2014 09:47 PM)Collide Wrote:  

"You know how they always say women like a guy with a sense of humor… turns out they just laugh at handsome guys." - Norm Macdonald

This is true, if they like you they would laugh at almost anything

[Switch]

I know a guy who used to own a comedy club and let me tell you... those guys get LAID. Girls come up to them when their set is finished and practically throw themselves on those guys' dicks. If you are a standup comedian who gets paid to do shows and you're a six or better, it's the easiest poon in the world.

[RXB]

I think that a lot of guys are missing two factors in this debate.

The first is that Gilbert did this article for the publicity. Had this article been titled "Being funny gets you laid" this thread would never have existed. By saying that being a comedian has never gotten him women, Gilbert was able to generate a buzz. It's a marketing act, a ploy.

Secondly, the debate about whether or not famous comedians get laid is stupid because it hinges on their fame not looks. I remember reading that Curly, I think, from "The Three Stooges" got laid like linoleum. I doubt girls were after him because of his ability to get hit in the head with a shovel, they wanted the fame. Jonah Hill might be a funny dude but his fame is what draws girls to him.

Anyone with even a modicum of power will get groupies and some of them are even pretty hot. Competitive eaters have girls who'll jump their bones, overweight middle aged writers have nubile college girls going after them, serial killers get love letters, even spammy manosphere commentor Mark Minter shacked up with a girl because of his infamy.

As one of my favorite quotes goes: "Everything is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power."

[Manwhore]

If you're being funny to get a reaction then you're fucked. The baseline of your humor MUST be self-amusement. That's got to be the driving reason behind it.. not to make the girl laugh. In fact most times I make a girl laugh I'm not laughing because I'm already "over" it. Also.. you want to always be going for compliance from a girl. If you're simply trying to use humor as a way of entertaining a girl, and you're not requiring investment/compliance from her you're really fucked.

(01-21-2014 06:51 AM)Draugr Wrote:  

What drives comedians is rage, deep down anger. Women run from that.

Lol

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(01-22-2014 01:25 AM)RXB Wrote:  

As one of my favorite quotes goes: "Everything is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power."

I'd be wary of saying that, seeing how it plays right into the hands of the feminist "rape is about power, not sex" myth. Still, it's a good saying.

[R Smoov]

This shit fits me to a tee.

[CRR]

"In this month’s Playboy, comedian Gilbert Gottfried wondered why women say they “want a guy with a sense of humor” and yet are rarely interested in having sex with Gilbert Gottfried."

GG's premise itself is wrong. The bottom line is no one should ever really listen to what a woman says she wants. Women will ascribe positive qualities to guys they like.

For example, my ex-gf had some hot friends, some not-so-hot friends. They'd all say they wanted a "good" guy but basically all went for guys that were in their "erotic field of view" (as stated above). The funny thing is, her not attractive friends would ask about my desirable guy friends. I'd test them and ask why, and it was always because he was "nice" and "funny", even though it was because they had game and were successful.

So again, no guy should ever listen to a woman when she talks about what she's looking for in a guy. Just be the guy women like by being in shape, well dressed, cool and confident.

[SpeedRacer]

(01-23-2014 12:55 AM)CRR Wrote:  

Women will ascribe positive qualities to guys they like.

This right here. I read elsewhere in the manosphere that women aren't attracted to funny men. They want the men to whom they're attracted to be funny.

I'm funny but I've been thinking I need to tone it down lest I turn into the clown who is there to make girls laugh.

[Borealis]

Could it be because Gilbert Godfreak isn't funny?

[soup]

(02-02-2014 03:22 AM)Borealis Wrote:  

Could it be because Gilbert Godfreak isn't funny?

Not just that, but this guy who did the voice for the bad guy's parrot in Aladin, has seemingly nothing other than fame to show for his game.

If anything, they way he seems to present himself contradicts the power of his fame.

What a shame.

What's the point of getting famous if you are just going to contradict it's power by virtue of how you behave, look, sound, etc.