[The Beast1]

Here's a question for all you guys, I have a brother who is a freshmen in high school. Good kid, although I don't get to see him or talk to him very often. I could see the same stuff I was feeling in him at that age. The parents wouldn't be too pleased about getting such a gift for a 14 year old, but I wish someone had given me these books when I was his age.

To sum up, would you get Bang and Day Bang for your younger brother who is a freshmen in high school?

[TheWastelander]

I'd get him Bang, Day Bang, and Starting Strength or Convict Conditioning.

[Hardy Daytona]

Would I? Unquestionably.
Would he be able to appreciate it? Probably not to its full extent at that age.

There's a few things contained that would seem implausible to a 14-year old without the relative experience to put them in perspective.

But there's certainly potential in the knowledge.
I'd get one to test the water and if he seems receptive then get the other.

[The Beast1]

I already got him a weight lifting book. I'll write an explanation into the card I have for him. My parents got me a book on "How to be a Gentleman" when I was his age. Pretty useless beyond being able to impress people with antiquated etiquette. I figured this would help him out since both of the parents in his life aren't very good role models for talking and getting women / a girlfriend.

Bought and shipped thanks gents.

[TheWastelander]

(12-19-2014 04:58 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

I already got him a weight lifting book. I'll write an explanation into the card I have for him. My parents got me a book on "How to be a Gentleman" when I was his age. Pretty useless beyond being able to impress people with antiquated etiquette. I figured this would help him out since both of the parents in his life aren't very good role models for talking and getting women / a girlfriend.

Bought and shipped thanks gents.

Yeah, my parents weren't much help either. They're in their late 60s and grew up in a different time and place.

[Sonsowey]

I know plenty of guys who are basically "red pill" without ever reading this stuff.

Picking good books and movies for him could help a lot too. I'm not talking about "bang" but books that feature traditional alpha males, stories of heroics, Mad Men. Hell most of my friends who act "red pill" now just love action movies and shit, regular high-T stuff.

[Virtus]

spend time with him and then have your plates come over and send him on his way
he will start asking questions

[Mr. Wolf]

Wow, I'm so out of touch with all this PUA stuff, I thought from the title of this thread that you were considering getting him a hooker. That's what was done back in my day. I would have advised against that, but buy him all those books mentioned, they sound pretty cool. Rooshvforum, come for the UVA Rape Hoax coverage, stay and learn a little about PUA.

[runsonmagic]

No More Mr. Nice Guy was my introduction to redpill thinking in high school (before it was called redpill thinking). I still recommend it as an intro for "nice guys."

[Seamus]

Might want to consider getting him the e-version. You might inadvertently cause some family drama if your Mom finds the hard copy lying around his room, since as you said he's a bit on the younger side for this stuff.

[Sourcecode]

I first picked up Bang when I was a junior in high school.
If his heart is in it..he will use the knowledge
Might as well get him Way of Men also

[Slim Shady]

I honestly missed the capitalization and thought you were going to get him "a bang", as in get him a chick to fuck.

That would be a good present.

[Switch]

Yes, the earlier someone gets introduced to this stuff the better it will be for them. Odds are that he will read the book and kind of forget about it when he finishes, or apply concepts learned to one specific girl at his high school (which will fail, of course). Everyone is going to have their moment when they finally realize "oh shit, I actually have to get out in the field and do approaches and practice to get better, reading books isn't enough." I personally didn't have this epiphany until a year after reading Bang. Get him Bang so that when he finally does realize that he needs to improve game/social skills, he will have the toolbox to improve himself.

[kaotic]

Absofuckinglutely man, you're saving him from a world of pain most of us have had to go through.

[el mechanico]

Teach him yourself and if he takes to it share more with him

[turkishcandy]

Why start with a book? Why not a free daygame workshop by you? He will think you are a wizard. Then you give him the spell books, Bang and Day Bang.

[Beyond Borders]

Be sure you know him as well as you think you do because it could easily become family gossip that you gave your 14-year-old brother a book called Bang, and most every other person involved won't see it the way we do. Assuming you even care about that type of thing, you might want to break him into the idea of seduction a bit slower, for your own sake as well as his.

[NovaVirtu]

Buy him a copy of Bachelor Pad Economics.

I picked up a copy my for my own brother this year for Christmas. He already has a girlfriend so he probably wouldn't be as receptive to a game manual.

BPE has so much info in it that is relevant to all men at every stage of their life, it's probably the best age he could read it- may save him from a ton of student loan debt and open him to the red pill at the same time.

[Hades]

Man I wish the number of fitness books read correlated with being actually swole.

Get him a copy of Jamie Lewis's "Destroy the Opposition" (Starting Strength is like the compliment and cuddle of lifting), Ditillo's "The Development of Physical Strength" (very classic, excellent), or Bryant's "Jailhouse Strong" (Convict Conditioning is not a reputable text, Jailhouse Strong actually is), or literally anything by Ross Enamait for strength training.

I especially recommend Ross Enamait's Never Gymless or Infinite Intensity, they're both on sale now for like twelve bucks, though all of his material is good.

Whatever you do just pick one book.

For game El Mech has the best advice.

[Renzy]

(12-19-2014 07:51 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Be sure you know him as well as you think you do because it could easily become family gossip that you gave your 14-year-old brother a book called Bang, and most every other person involved won't see it the way we do. Assuming you even care about that type of thing, you might want to break him into the idea of seduction a bit slower, for your own sake as well as his.

How about Neil Strauss's The Game. Since it's a mainstream book that's offered up as entertainment, and not an instruction manual, it will be a less provocative gift that will let you gauge his openness to some red-pill ideas. Might be a safer way to test the waters.

[floor7]

I don't think the fitness books are really necessary if he's a freshman in HS he knows he has to be fit to pull tail. That part is obvious through pure observation. The fitness stuff I think makes more sense in college or post college.

The reason I say this is because at 14 he should be training in a choice sport or two and doing the best to excel at them as he has the opportunity to build status through them AND become fit.

And depending on the sport(s), the fitness regimen is completely different.

In college and post-college, a lot fewer people play sports at a competitive level and that's when building up to peacock makes more sense.

Way more important are the theory and mental basis of TRP.

[Cheetah]

(12-20-2014 01:20 PM)Renzy Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 07:51 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Be sure you know him as well as you think you do because it could easily become family gossip that you gave your 14-year-old brother a book called Bang, and most every other person involved won't see it the way we do. Assuming you even care about that type of thing, you might want to break him into the idea of seduction a bit slower, for your own sake as well as his.

How about Neil Strauss's The Game. Since it's a mainstream book that's offered up as entertainment, and not an instruction manual, it will be a less provocative gift that will let you gauge his openness to some red-pill ideas. Might be a safer way to test the waters.

I read like the first 90 pages of that book and I never understood its hype.

[The Reactionary Tree]

I say hell yea get him Bang & Day Bang. The Rational Male would also be a good book. Same with The Way of Men.

I am buying my friends The Way of Men for Christmas. I thought about buying them The Rational Male but I dont want to ruin their marriages

[WestIndianArchie]

(12-19-2014 04:58 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

I already got him a weight lifting book. I'll write an explanation into the card I have for him. My parents got me a book on "How to be a Gentleman" when I was his age. Pretty useless beyond being able to impress people with antiquated etiquette. I figured this would help him out since both of the parents in his life aren't very good role models for talking and getting women / a girlfriend.

Bought and shipped thanks gents.

This is a hole in the market.
First few chapters should be "Mom-Friendly", but the rest should be "real talk"

WIA

[WestIndianArchie]

(12-20-2014 01:56 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 01:20 PM)Renzy Wrote:  

How about Neil Strauss's The Game. Since it's a mainstream book that's offered up as entertainment, and not an instruction manual, it will be a less provocative gift that will let you gauge his openness to some red-pill ideas. Might be a safer way to test the waters.

I read like the first 90 pages of that book and I never understood its hype.

Not sure if serious

WIA