[Capt. James Cook]

I'm lazy as all FUCK

I don't have a job and I give my parents the excuse to not kick me out because I'm occasionally working on a tech startup.

I'm a semi early bitcoin investor but also approaching broke, I sometimes ride a Tenere660z around some of Australia's best roads.

I'm apathetic about things that don't give me immediate payoff and don't have many good habits other than keeping fit and writing music for several bands that I really feel blessed to be a part of.

When I see the years tick by I'm reminded that life is on the doorstep but I keep getting in my way. Its like I suddenly remember to really charge into opportunities and persistently beat back tasks, but then over time I forget and return to my lowest self. I don't know how to stay enthused about something long enough to see it through and make it lasting, irreversible.

I'd like some help please. Some advice, preferably from experience.

As If I wouldn't come to the roosh forum first.

[Moreless]

Most people need to be told what to do.

[Kangaroo]

Move out of your parents place.

[LeBeau]

(12-08-2014 03:04 AM)Capt. James Cook Wrote:  

I'm lazy as all FUCK

I'd like some help please. Some advice, preferably from experience.

As If I wouldn't come to the roosh forum first.

Search function is the first step to solving both issues in bold.

[kinjutsu]

Figure out what you wanna do next.
Once you do that map it out.
Break down the steps to complete within days, weeks and months.

[Aer]

Get a notebook.

Every night before bed, write down what you did that day and what you want to do the next day.

It'll force you to accomplish the goals, or be dissapointed every night before you go to bed. I've began this recently, and the guilt that eats at me when I don't do something is worse than being shamed by someone else.

After all, you're letting yourself down, not someone else.

[Drazen]

When I was in a funk, what got me off my ass was to read as much as I possible could. Books, magazines, etc., it gets your mind open to new ideas. Took a while, but just read as much as you can. That coupled with regular exercise schedule got me on track.

Unplugging from the internet and television may also help. I did that for a while, really helped focus on everything else.

[Snowplow]

Start everyday making your bed and then take a cold shower. Sounds stupid but making your bed is a little task that you complete right away and it gives you feeling of accomplishment to move to the next task. The cold shower teaches you discipline and if you can get through that nothing else is a problem!

[Capt. James Cook]

(12-08-2014 03:10 AM)Moreless Wrote:  

Most people need to be told what to do.

I'v realised that asking questions is giving yourself permission to do nothing until you get an answer.

In the past my productivity habits have been.

Making bed
Cold Showers
No fap
Daygame
Weights
Intermittent fasting
Cold Green tea Shots
Nootropics
Meditation

The intermittent fasting has been the only thing that is stuck with me.

I understand that it takes about a month of daily repetition to make something a habit. I'v tried sites like lift.do to track progress, I didn't bounce back after I caved.

So what I'll do is live with myself, be happy being myself, be content with who I am but not complacent. I'll put my mind to improving the lives of others and work on my fears as I go.

[Beyond Borders]

Want something.

Then do everything you can to keep that something in your sights. Whatever it takes to make it the dominating focus of your life. To remind yourself every moment that it's the most important thing, until it saturates every part of you.

Read Think and Grow Rich.

Or don't want anything. Get lost in philosophy and learn to appreciate the rewards of simple living.

It's your life. No one else's. You don't have to be ambitious.

[heavy]

There is no answer for everyone, so you'll have to try a few simple things to see what works.

(12-08-2014 01:46 PM)Aer Wrote:  

Every night before bed, write down what you did that day and what you want to do the next day.

It'll force you to accomplish the goals, or be dissapointed every night before you go to bed.

Agree. This helped me get back into working out and going to the gym. For me, observing (what I did) motivates me, if only to be marginally better.

Also, when you're in "I wish I wasn't lazy" mood (prob at night, when you typed that etc), make a very simple list of what you are going to do the next day *with times*.

One item on the list should be lifting. Lifting will help.

The cold shower and making bed might work, I don't know.

All other advice is good, though things like reading a book, moving out, health, meditation sound like their too long term for him to implement right away.

You need quick dopamine rush from simple tasks.

While RVF is a time killer, it's a better waste of time than most other things. Keep coming here and posting...it helps.

[Nascimento]

Long lists of things you can do to improve your life and be more productive are helpful. However, sometimes you need a simple place to start from to get you on the right track. That is why I recommend two simple things that will take you to that next level, and are an essential starting point.

1) Work out, 3-5 times a week. No exceptions.
2) Wake up between 5-6 am daily, most days of the week. You will find yourself with plenty of extra time, and just be productive about it. You are less likely to procrastinate if you forced yourself up at 5 am.

[Mr. Wolf]

It's good you're seeking advice, but you really have to rely on your own counsel here. Based just on what you've written, you sound like a decent guy who just happens to lack direction and focus. Until you actually decide what you want to accomplish in 5 or 10 years, making lists and establishing a routine for things like working out and doing chores is not really going to help much.

Try to determine the intersection of your personal Venn diagram of: (1) things at which you are skilled; (2) things for which others will pay $$$; and, (3) things you would enjoy doing for 30 or 40 years. Item (2) cannot be ignored, unless you want to end up a loser. And try to be objective about (1), most people think they are much better at things than they really are. Unless strangers and/or adversaries have approached you to praise your performance, you probably are not good yet. Keep at it.

Also, don't beat yourself up too much. A lot of life is being mentally ready and poised to pounce when opportunity presents itself. Losers will say you were "lucky", but what they don't realize is that you spent months or years mentally preparing yourself for the moment when you needed to strike when a fleeting opportunity presented itself.

Don't waste any time on girls. Once you've achieved your personal goals there will be plenty of what you want and need readily at hand.

[Travesty]

(12-17-2014 09:46 PM)Mr. Wolf Wrote:  

most people think they are much better at things than they really are. Unless strangers and/or adversaries have approached you to praise your performance, you probably are not good yet. Keep at it.

Yes.

[pialo]

Routine..... and To-do lists.

Write a list at the start of the week with what you have to do in order to reach your long term goal.

Remember that waking up 5 minutes earlier and going to bed 5 minutes later equates to an hour a week. You can use that to your advantage as long as you are focused on your to-do list.

When you reach your short term goals, reward yourself.

[TornadoByProxy]

(12-08-2014 03:33 AM)Kangaroo Wrote:  

Move out of your parents place.

Kangaroo said it all. Comfort is complacency. Complacency is death.

Tornado

[Pontifex Maximus]

Move out of your parents place, and forcibly put yourself into debt. The reason living with your parents won't improve your personal situation is because you are transferring an emotional asset into an emotional debt. They love you, therefore your receiving of their love is overwhelming the guilt you should be having. By accumulating debt and putting yourself into a survival mode, you are converting your situation into a financial debt that an emotion asset cannot cover.

I remember when I first started sales (100% commission) I made $50/day and barely broke even on gas. My work ethic and deduction skyrocketed, and soon I was making about $300/day. Comfort breeds laziness.

A man who has nothing currently actually has everything. His opportunity costs are nothing, therefore his potential is infinite.

[brick tamland]

@OP - here's a good and valuable thread
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-13507....motivation
It's one of the longer relevant threads
Otherwise just search 'motivation'. It seems many of us have been in a slump.
What struck me from the above thread is that if you are in a slump, just put one thing on your plate at a time and do your best and importantly COMPLETE the task. Or it might not be important enough to you to complete so rather dump it rather than be constantly anxious about having to do it.
From personal experience and I'm really struggling with this at the moment, I can tell you that you will only do what you WANT TO do. If the 'want to' (desire) is weak, you will not accomplish anything.

[Libertas]

I think the most important thing to do to overcome this laziness and malaise of hesitation and procrastination is to

A) Know what you want.
B) Start working toward that goal one day at a time, little by little. Set small goals for yourself and then, and this is key or the rest is for naught actually start working.

The best way to overcome procrastination is to just start the task. Seriously, just start the task, whatever it is. Through the momentum of the work you will be motivated to work harder.

[heavy]

^^ He doesn't know what he wants because he's "apathetic about things that don't give me immediate payoff". Things like that are never worth having.

Hence, he doesn't know what he wants.

I've been there. Tough to motivate yourself when you don't feel you can accomplish longer-term goals. Below are some motivational youtube videos, use them for the little stuff. Then google "youtube to mp3", save the mp3 to your phone or mp3 player, and listen to it to accomplish things.

(I think this mp3 download is in the youtube notes below the video)