[SteveMcMahon]

(12-05-2014 09:30 AM)perverted sage Wrote:  



You know if i was a 65 or 70 year old and my 50 year old wife/girlfriend looked like Monica i wouldn't mind much but for a bond girl she's too old.

A question to my fellow forum members, if you where the casting director for this film who would you cast as the bond girls and the villain ?

Bond girls:


Axelle Despiegelaere as Helena Swallows


Rosie Huntingdon-Whitely as Buffy Lovecock


Alessandra Ambrosio as Vagtasia Coxx

Baddies:


Stephen Hawking IS Robo-Hitler


David Futrelle IS Manginor

[WD-40]

(12-04-2014 05:54 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Monica Bellucci may be past her prime, but she's an actress that puts it out there...in a hardcore way. She's got guts and character.

To see what I mean, check out the French film "Irreversible." Directed by Gaspar Noe, this French film features a horrific rape scene in an underpass that is so visceral that some filmgoers literally can't handle it. Bellucci had to have real guts to do this. She is degraded in a way that I have not seen any other actress attempt. See the film.

+1

After her performance in Irreversible, I have nothing but respect for her.

[rudebwoy]

Steve McMahon - touché, Bond is about fantasy and not being PC.

I say bring back the fluffy white cat.

[infowarrior1]

Gonna watch this instead:




What James Bond should have been like.

[infowarrior1]

(12-05-2014 11:22 AM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:30 AM)perverted sage Wrote:  



You know if i was a 65 or 70 year old and my 50 year old wife/girlfriend looked like Monica i wouldn't mind much but for a bond girl she's too old.

A question to my fellow forum members, if you where the casting director for this film who would you cast as the bond girls and the villain ?

Bond girls:


Axelle Despiegelaere as Helena Swallows


Rosie Huntingdon-Whitely as Buffy Lovecock


Alessandra Ambrosio as Vagtasia Coxx

Baddies:


Stephen Hawking IS Robo-Hitler


David Futrelle IS Manginor

Axelle Despiegelaere was disqualified from L'Oreal for this:

[Tim in real life]

Thanks for the update on Monica Belucci; while I do agree she's a legitimate actress, I find it unfortunate her Anglo counterparts are using her for their own means for "GRRL POWER". Hello, ladies, this is no longer the 1990s, so grow up and out of your Spice Girls CDs.

Never mind the fact James Bond is classical fictional Britannia; I did enjoy the franchise up to the Pierce Brosnan era and did not bother with the Craig era at all.

This Anglo feminism estrogen injection is one more reason I am staying put and away from the Daniel Craig era.

[iknowexactly]

Man, villains in James Bond movies used to have hollowed-out MOUNTAINS and shit.

In the last one, it was a gay guy who was mad at his boss about something.

[iknowexactly]

(12-04-2014 07:39 PM)Blunt Wrote:  

I don't know, even despite the dilution of Bond's womanizing I still enjoyed the last movie because of the cinematography.

A 50 year old female to be the sex symbol of the movie though?

It just shows the divorce from reality in American fantasy..

The existential purpose of sex is reproduction.

She certainly is lovely for her age, but fifty Year old women can not reproduce.

It's like a big, carefully made-up elephant in the room.

One of the cool thing about Bond movies WAS how they always successfully use basic elements of primal terror and allure:

1) Fear of Heights
2) Dismemberment and threat of being eaten alive
3) Insane, psychopathic desire for omnipotent world domination ( count me in on this!)
4) The terror of crowds-- massive assault by a number of henchmen
5) Murderous betrayal by the trusted.
6) The allure of a solitary, sexually available, and very fertile female in isolated ( e.g. Jamaica) exotic environments.

[trian1]

I love this:

Why older women are sexier on screen

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...creen.html

I am waiting for the followup, "Why poor men with unexciting lifestyles are sexier on screen"

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(12-07-2014 01:33 PM)trian1 Wrote:  

I love this:

Why older women are sexier on screen

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...creen.html

I am waiting for the followup, "Why poor men with unexciting lifestyles are sexier on screen"

Women would love to not only redefine what is beautiful by saying that 300 pounds is equally attractive & that women over 50 are even more sparkling and stupendously pretty as they were in their teens.

Hm - let's see what the top of the human sexual market pyramid does:

   



The fat old women must do it more discretely. If we as men would re-engineer our sexual lust to what the feminists want, we would die out as a species - even with 7 billion - we would simply die.

[Soberane]

(12-04-2014 05:47 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Let's not forget that Bond became a brain washed white-knight first. Now this.

They themselves do not believe that bs, Dicaprio talks about global warming while partying on private yacht and travelling in private jets

[Brian Shima]

I forgot that she was in Irreversible which is a pretty hardcore French film! It has a 10 minute rape scene with her but the first scene at the club might be worse

[Soberane]

(12-07-2014 01:33 PM)trian1 Wrote:  

I love this:

Why older women are sexier on screen

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...creen.html

I am waiting for the followup, "Why poor men with unexciting lifestyles are sexier on screen"

Lets see how many Victoria's Secret angels are fucking homeless men, shit, they would never fuck a average man high school teacher.

[SteveMcMahon]

(12-07-2014 01:33 PM)trian1 Wrote:  

I love this:

Why older women are sexier on screen

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...creen.html

Ah, but the first rule of female journalism is everything is personal. Have a look at the typist who wrote it, Hannah Betts:


Yeesh.

Quote:

Besides, as so many women know - my 43-year old self, not least - life only gets better with the passing years, the process being less ageing than progress.

Progress.

Here's another article the dried-up spinster wrote nearly 6 years ago, boasting about how her dessicated womb has withered on the vine:

Childless and Proud

[Feisbook Control]

Someone asked who should be Bond girls and Bond villains.

On the former, I'd say it wouldn't be hard to outdo the next lineup. You could probably find hotter girls walking down the street of any major city in the world.

On the latter, I'd say Paul Krugman, Janet Yellen or Mario Draghi, but they already have very busy real life schedules destroying the world, so we might have to go with someone like Jeremy Irons. He's never been a Bond villain, but could probably play one quite well. There'd probably be some pretty good sinister characters in the non-Anglosphere, but I'm not familiar with such cinema. Incidentally, I always thought Michael Lonsdale was a very underrated Bond Villain, and coincidentally, he was also in a movie with Daniel Craig the year before Craig's first Bond role.

[musicsoundsbetteratnight]

Like all women Monica will hit the wall (or already has hit the wall depending on your perspective) but she has always been one of my favourite actresses. I still remember her fecund body in Brotherhood Of The Wolf - oh dear Lord! - and Tears Of The Sun is one of my favourite war movies. Therefore I can respect her being chosen as a Bond Girl as she seems to fit the Bond Girl 'mould'.

[Edelweiss]

(12-04-2014 04:32 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

The one in the middle is French (Lea Seydoux) & is pretty cute, but Naomie Harris who plays Miss Moneypenny (right) should be nowhere near a Bond Movie.



Would you bang?

Some of you guys think Harris is hot ?? She's like a man wearing a wig...But then again to each his fantasies...

As for the next Bond being gay, maybe not but he will be PC for sure: the Sony leaks showed Sony chairworman Amy Pascal thinking that the next Bond should black and wanted to consider British actor Idris Elba for the role...

Moneypenny is now black. Next Bond will be black...All hail multikulti...

Every Euro heritage/culture/tradition must be destroyed. I was born in the wrong century.

[CRR]

I'd be fine with Idris Elba as Bond because I think he's a good actor.

But I could see them going down a PC road to the point where in three movies it is some super sensitive 6'5 androgynous bisexual man while the 'Bond Girls' are Lindy West, Lena Dunham and the old bag from HuffPo who was demanding that men look at her.

Their rank hypocrisy is astounding, and I highly recommend calmly but firmly pointing it out if given the opportunity. It is hilarious to watch a feminist's head explode. They whine and complain wanting an old woman or fat whale matched up with a handsome, fit, well dressed, guy with a high status job. Yet if a man expresses a physical preference, he's a misogynist.

I just saw on the news that Joseph Gordon-Leavitt, male feminist, got married to some girl with a robotics company. She seemed to be thin, but average looking. All that is fine of course, but I look forward to the feminist hamsterization spin "see, handsome rich guys like women with brains!!!". Same thing they did when Clooney got married.

In other words, their obsession with the top 1% of men on one hand yet demonization of any male positive expression towards conventional beauty on the other is flat out absurd.

Of course feminism isn't exactly known for it's logic.

[Edelweiss]

(01-01-2015 08:45 PM)CRR Wrote:  

I'd be fine with Idris Elba as Bond because I think he's a good actor.

Who cares if Elba is a good actor or not ? There are loads of good actors out there.

The problem lies with the message within. Why a black Bond ? A caracter born in 1920 Scotland ? Fictional it may be, it portrays a Scottish spy. Ian Fleming drew portrays of how he thinks Bond looks like.

Next Thor will be a woman, Bond will be black...and you have legions of bloggers praising this and crucifying anyone unhappy about it, using the usual suspects RACISM, BIGOTRY, MISOGYNY...

It makes me wanna puke...

[Goldin Boy]

Quote:

As for the next Bond being gay, maybe not but he will be PC for sure: the Sony leaks showed Sony chairworman Amy Pascal thinking that the next Bond should black and wanted to consider British actor Idris Elba for the role...

Moneypenny is now black. Next Bond will be black...All hail multikulti...

Every Euro heritage/culture/tradition must be destroyed. I was born in the wrong century.

My theory is longer a forum discussion carries on the more likely it will devolve into a racial argument/discussion. Even if the OP was on lawn gnomes, someone will link it to the impending "race war".

Elba's a good actor but I doubt it. Craig has 2 more films under his contract so don't you worry, the Bond franchise is safe.

[Avon Barksdale]

(01-01-2015 08:59 PM)Edelweiss Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 08:45 PM)CRR Wrote:  

I'd be fine with Idris Elba as Bond because I think he's a good actor.

Who cares if Elba is a good actor or not ? There are loads of good actors out there.

The problem lies with the message within. Why a black Bond ? A caracter born in 1920 Scotland ? Fictional it may be, it portrays a Scottish spy. Ian Fleming drew portrays of how he thinks Bond looks like.

Next Thor will be a woman, Bond will be black...and you have legions of bloggers praising this and crucifying anyone unhappy about it, using the usual suspects RACISM, BIGOTRY, MISOGYNY...

It makes me wanna puke...

[kosko]

All logic for Bond went out the window when they went away from from Flemming's actual detail of a dark hair Scott man and went for Blonde hair blue eyed Craig. It is all about $$$ now to keep interest in the franchise. More people in the global south and developing countries watch Bond movies then Americans these days. All my uncles and my pops were obsessed with Bond. Bond was one of the few ways me and my pops would spend time together anytime the movies came on TV. Dudes in Angola or Colombia are crazy for Bond so putting forward a Bond who looks more like them is simple business pandering and tactics.

Same thing happened with the Catholic Church. They threw a Spanish dude up there to pander to the hundreds of millions of Christians in the global south. Institution see that area as the future. If Americans or Isles people want to keep Bond the way he always has been they would of kept supporting the films before they made the move away to Craig in the first place. Once that move was made all bets were off for the Bond franchise.

To me as a black dude I don't care either or. I would rather you keep a character the same for uniformity but once they threw that out the door I don't really care who the next Bond is as long as they can fit that Alpha role and persona 100%. I would rather have a good Idris Elba as Bond, versus some goofy 2014 granola Hollywood dude who just looks the part but can't channel in that Alpha Bond vibe. Craig was terrible, I can't watch him in Bond films and can't wait for him to be done.

The reality is not many dudes in Hollywood could actually fit that Bond role. You can't be to young, or to old. You have to have action chops, but still be able to hold frame in a lead role, you can't be "to famous" either. Some dude like Clooney is a weak sauce granola dude, but is also to famous for the role. In 1998 he could of done it but not now. Plus the fact that he is a Yankee also, the Bond people won't dive that far off their path.

You hear names like Clive Owen by Anglophiles thrown around and he does indeed 'look' the part. I am not sure of his acting chops so I can't judge if he is good for the role, but if he is then give him the role if he wants it. No shame in that. But aside from that unless you want to cast some German or Italian dude your going find it hard to find a white UK dude who can be Bond. To them putting in another UK guy of good stature is better then trying to cast some German dude or Yankee.

[CactusCat589]

It boggles the mind that people are trying to push Idris Elba for the next Bond. They haven't read a single Fleming novel yet come crawling out of the woodwork saying "Oho! You made Bond blond! You did that! Now you have to make him another ethnicity!"

Iron Man 3 starts gearing up its marketing campaign, and I'm waiting for the outburst from the usual suspects to start on Ben Kingsley being cast as the Mandarin. The Mandarin. To make it even worse, it turns out that he's a double, and the real Mandarin is played by... Guy Fakwes.

Instead: crickets.

The Nelson Mandela biopic comes out, played by the greatest living actor, Daniel Day Lewis. When the leftist/progressive/marxist/various ethnic groups applaud this, then a short little Mexican man can be the next Bond and no one will protest.

And as for Monica Bellucci, I think it's a shame she wasn't a Bond Girl much earlier. If you think about it, she would have been one of the most iconic and sexiest Bond Girls of all time and would've deserved the role. Given how hot she was in the Matrix films when she was in her forties, even a decade ago she still would've been an unforgettable Bond Girl, she's the actress that you look at and think "She should be a Bond Girl. How did she manage to not be one already?"

But I still think she'll do a good job. She'll be in as good a shape as she can be, and the make-up artists will work their usual magic.

[Feisbook Control]

(01-01-2015 11:49 PM)kosko Wrote:  

All logic for Bond went out the window when they went away from from Flemming's actual detail of a dark hair Scott man and went for Blonde hair blue eyed Craig. It is all about $$$ now to keep interest in the franchise. More people in the global south and developing countries watch Bond movies then Americans these days. All my uncles and my pops were obsessed with Bond. Bond was one of the few ways me and my pops would spend time together anytime the movies came on TV. Dudes in Angola or Colombia are crazy for Bond so putting forward a Bond who looks more like them is simple business pandering and tactics.

I actually think you could be wrong about that. Making Bond a black guy could be bad for the world franchise for the opposite reasons. I can't speak for other parts of the world, but in Asia, it seems that they have a very romanticised view of outside places. In the same way that many can't accept a non-white English teacher, they might not be able to accept a non-white in a role as some sort of archetype of Britishness, which Bond is, for better or worse. I think what they would be happy with, and might even want, is the supporting cast and storyline to be more of a nod to them, but not Bond himself. It's kind of like how people the world over modify ethnic cuisine to the local environment, but there's still a certain idea of what a Chinese, Italian, etc. restaurant should look like and what should be on the menu. If you want a hamburger, you don't go to a Chinese restaurant.

[Marmite]

(01-01-2015 11:49 PM)kosko Wrote:  

...

Craig was terrible, I can't watch him in Bond films and can't wait for him to be done.

...

You hear names like Clive Owen by Anglophiles thrown around and he does indeed 'look' the part. I am not sure of his acting chops so I can't judge if he is good for the role, but if he is then give him the role if he wants it. No shame in that. But aside from that unless you want to cast some German or Italian dude your going find it hard to find a white UK dude who can be Bond. To them putting in another UK guy of good stature is better then trying to cast some German dude or Yankee.

I think Craig has played a decent Bond. Since it was a reboot and they are redefining his character / origins, I think he's done a decent job in the role.

Clive Owen or Gerard Butler are the only two names that come to mind to replace Daniel Craig once his contract is up, but since he has another two films on his contract there is plenty of time for new actors to shine through. I do think it would be stupid to change an established characters race though.