[Rawmeo]

There is a thread about your "biggest date fuckup", but I didn't find anything about purely beta mistakes. I'd like to get examples of beta mistakes some people did in their early blue pill days.

I'll start with mine.

1) A girl told me "I do not have time to see you now; I will be busy in the near future. I'll let you know if plans change." This is a polite way to turn me down, but I answered, "Well, you work everyday, but after work you can have time. And weekends no?". Her: "I must also study on evenings. Sorry for that.". Me: "Well I can help you study, I know the subject too. I can help you and do part of your homework so you have time for me."
Beta level: ********

2) I bring a new girl to my pad for a "movie date" on early evening. She says when coming in the house, "Hello! But just to tell you, there will be no sex tonight.". Instead of simply ignoring that and pushing anyway, I said "So why did you come to my place alone on evening on a movie date then?". She got upset and left.
Beta level: ******

[Latan]

1- Young girl in my bed, obviously DTF. She was sincerely hot, despite her troubles to walk correctly (nervous problem from birth). I decide not to bang, cause she could mentally suffer, if something went wrong between us. I still don't understand my decision today.

2- Girl wanting to go get drinks at the bar, obviously promiscuous. I didn't want her to be light headed, she had to work next morning, so I offer eating something instead. Obviously didn't get the bang.

3- I paid for dinner, while she was going to pay her part. Didn't bang.

4- She smiled and took my arm at the first second we met, obviously DTF attitude. Didn't want her to think I "use" women so I take my distances. Didn't bang.

Thanks Roosh for helping me realise I was a white knight.

[Arcturus]

The Beta Life is the working title for my yet to be written autobiography. I've done some seriously cringe worthy beta shit with most every girl I've known. I don't even know where to start.

Lara was a college freshman hb7 when I was 25. She would bring her friends to my house and we'd get stoned. One night with just 3 of us there she starts talking about how she had gotten a breast reduction when she turned 18. She was about 5 ft tall and had 44DD cut down to 36C. She was proud of them but I never asked to see them.
Fast forward 1 year a group of us including this girl and her college friends went camping in PA for 5 days. 5 guys and 5 girls. One evening the girls decided to go skinny dipping. When they asked "are you guys coming?" we declined. We sat around playing guitars and drumming and drinking. The girls continued to give IOIs during the week.

[El Chinito loco]

Hot Korean girl in my bed in college at 22 years of age (me) and her (20) she cuddled up to me and put her hand on my thigh and I let her sleep with her head on my shoulder. We had a house party and the whole evening she was all but telling me to fuck her silly. Then in the morning I realized how badly I fucked up and tried to awkwardly escalate. She didn't go for it and I was left with blue balls.

[heavy]

Pretty good, OP those aren't too bad, but come on fellas. I may actually win this one with #2...

1. I got married before age 24. (half point for her being a virgin and her never cheating on me)
beta level: 4.5/10

2. My wife found out I looked at porn, I slept in the spare bed for 3 months.
beta level: 8/10

3. Since divorce...I got pissed when a 24 yr old hottie I'd banged a couple times was in town with friends, I assumed we'd hang out...I think she ended up hanging out with (ie banging) one of my buddies.
beta level: 6/10

The importance is not in having these moments, but having less of these moments

Note: I'm assuming something providing for and living with your kid, ex-wife and her boyfriend in the same house is beta level 10/10.

[Arcturus]

Heavy it's funny that you mention that because I know a guy in his 50's who has been living with his ex wife and her bf for over a decade. The three of them even bought a house a few years ago. He has her on his health insurance plan at work.

Guys like that will never bat an eye before taking the blue pill over and over again.

[Dantes]

In college I took my girlfriend back after she cheated on me.

[Old Fritz]

There was a girl back in high school who I continued to text after she made it clear she wasn't interested.

[coverdoc]

(12-02-2014 10:27 AM)Dantes Wrote:  

In college I took my girlfriend back after she cheated on me.

[UroboricForms]

(12-02-2014 10:16 AM)Arcturus Wrote:  

Heavy it's funny that you mention that because I know a guy in his 50's who has been living with his ex wife and her bf for over a decade. The three of them even bought a house a few years ago. He has her on his health insurance plan at work.

Guys like that will never bat an eye before taking the blue pill over and over again.

Some people. Seriously.

[MRDigger]

At age 23, I started ignoring my girlfriend, and then got cheated on, and I took her back!! Retarded when I look back at that now

[DYST]

A girl I had known since middle school texts me one night and says she needs a place to stay for the night so I invite her over. I am still living at my parents house at the time im youngish still 19 so she knocks on my window and I let her it is already super late but she had brought some mikes hard lemonade thing so we shared that and I gave her my bed to sleep in. At the time I was a super nerd I chilled on the computer for a little bit while she was in my bed, looking back on that alone I was fucking up. Anyways I get off the computer and lay on the floor next to my bed to sleep and she wakes up and says her bra is hurting her and takes it off.

At this point I am staring at the condoms right beside my bed thinking I need to jump in on this but I felt that she trusted me enough to do that and sleep there and not worry I would try something stupid. To this day I regret not even trying it was such a perfect situation I just didn't want to weird a really old friend out. Worst part is I had been having a crush on this girl since I met her.

This is her and I kick myself all the time for missing my chance...

[Courage Reborn]

The summer when I was 16, I would often sleep over my "best friends" house. One night, after her parents went to sleep, she invited to her bedroom, and asked me if I was any good at massages.

She taught me how to give a full body massage. My hands touched every part of her perfect body...except her boobs or butt. After an hour of massage she'd fall asleep, and I'd end up spooning her in her own bed.

Despite her openness, and the throbbing errection in my pants, I never worked up the courage to do anything more than cuddle.

This went on for weeks.

At the end of the summer, my band played a gig at her house. She was sitting all the way up front, lookup up at me with googly eyes. I was in love, but we never crossed that line. That night, with everyone drunk, one of my buddies found his way into her room, and fucked her.

Hurt would be an understatement. I confessed my feelings to her after the event. But it was too late.

Had I known even a sliver about game back then, there's little doubt in my mind we would have still been together today.

[Sensei Creation]

From when I was 18 to 20 my ex cheated on me a grand total of 5 times and I forgave her every time . This lead to me getting my heart broken and eventually finding this forum and popping the pill .

[Americas]

(12-04-2014 10:23 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

The summer when I was 16, I would often sleep over my "best friends" house. One night, after her parents went to sleep, she invited to her bedroom, and asked me if I was any good at massages.

She taught me how to give a full body massage. My hands touched every part of her perfect body...except her boobs or butt. After an hour of massage she'd fall asleep, and I'd end up spooning her in her own bed.

Despite her openness, and the throbbing errection in my pants, I never worked up the courage to do anything more than cuddle.

This went on for weeks.

At the end of the summer, my band played a gig at her house. She was sitting all the way up front, lookup up at me with googly eyes. I was in love, but we never crossed that line. That night, with everyone drunk, one of my buddies found his way into her room, and fucked her.

Hurt would be an understatement. I confessed my feelings to her after the event. But it was too late.

Had I known even a sliver about game back then, there's little doubt in my mind we would have still been together today.

Man, this story even hit me in the feels.

Brutal.

[evilhei]

(12-04-2014 10:23 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

The summer when I was 16, I would often sleep over my "best friends" house. One night, after her parents went to sleep, she invited to her bedroom, and asked me if I was any good at massages.

She taught me how to give a full body massage. My hands touched every part of her perfect body...except her boobs or butt. After an hour of massage she'd fall asleep, and I'd end up spooning her in her own bed.

Despite her openness, and the throbbing errection in my pants, I never worked up the courage to do anything more than cuddle.

This went on for weeks.

At the end of the summer, my band played a gig at her house. She was sitting all the way up front, lookup up at me with googly eyes. I was in love, but we never crossed that line. That night, with everyone drunk, one of my buddies found his way into her room, and fucked her.

Hurt would be an understatement. I confessed my feelings to her after the event. But it was too late.

Had I known even a sliver about game back then, there's little doubt in my mind we would have still been together today.

God damnit, it bring back some memories. I also had similar situation with a girl I had crush on and also she had a cruch on me. I was too coward to act on that for months, we just went out to cinemas etc. And then at some house party I had witness the situation of her being locked up in a room with some guy and he banging her. I did bang her eventually though, couple of months later. We were also 16.

[ordinaryleastsquared]

Getting emotionaly attached to all of my ex gf's.

Catching my HS girlfriend cheating on me at her work, and instead of dealing with the situation rationally, I just jumped on the dudes car and did a tap dance on his roof.

Having to get drunk to ball up and talk to girls at a bars/parties when I was younger, missed out by getting too sloppy.

[OGNorCal707]

I've been a beta my whole life, even 5 years after "discovering game", reading countless books, listening to countless podcasts, being an active member of this forum, I still can't fully kill my inner beta. Sometimes I feel like a tortured soul.

[Brian Shima]

Tortured soul lol, why don't you get a girlfriend then? Your obviously not meant to be a player if it's eating you up

[Brian Shima]

This thread is painful!! Its like confession time but worst

[Novus]

This was about 3 years ago, a buddy of mine was back in town after his first semster in college. We had a pre party at a bar and I started talking to this random chick, a cute 7, after 5 min or she looks at me and asks "Do you wanna fuck me? I'm not usually like this but you're just my type" and i just stood there thinking this can't be happening and replied "yeah sure, but you see I'm here with friends and we got a table at this club. I can't just leave them..." She asked if I could get here in, which i couldn't so we exchanged numbers and I left. I texted her the next day and tried to get the notch anyway, but she acted like she didn't know who I was and it never led to anything...I still have to grin thinking about it, as it was the first and last time a woman just asked me to fuck her after talking to her for a few minutes

[evilhei]

(12-05-2014 08:56 AM)Novus Wrote:  

This was about 3 years ago, a buddy of mine was back in town after his first semster in college. We had a pre party at a bar and I started talking to this random chick, a cute 7, after 5 min or she looks at me and asks "Do you wanna fuck me? I'm not usually like this but you're just my type" and i just stood there thinking this can't be happening and replied "yeah sure, but you see I'm here with friends and we got a table at this club. I can't just leave them..." She asked if I could get here in, which i couldn't so we exchanged numbers and I left. I texted her the next day and tried to get the notch anyway, but she acted like she didn't know who I was and it never led to anything...I still have to grin thinking about it, as it was the first and last time a woman just asked me to fuck her after talking to her for a few minutes

I can't really call that beta but just lack of drive. Im sure you could have found the time if really wanted it.

[Cr33pin]

Proposed to the same girl twice... she said yes both times. Fortunately we never got married and I have never been married. Great girl though we are still pretty much together even though I am traveling the world banging girls.

[Nascimento]

You guys rate this beta level for me. This is a good one. Some skeletons out of the closet if you will.

Back in high school, I crushed on this girl hard. But like some of us lacking any sort of game back then (add in personally having no experience whatsoever with girls either at this point) I wouldn't make the most of it. Too hard to do something about it with no reference experiences yet.

Anyways, my one chance was to do something about it at the school dance. Junior year, I told myself I'd use liquid courage to help me. I was going to make a move! At the very least, ask her to dance. I knew she would say yes, even being inexperienced at the time I knew she would give me a shot, I had a feeling she liked me (although to kiss or date her at the time I'm not sure, at the very least we'd dance together though!).

So I drink with my buddy before the dance. I calculated the amount of vodka that would be necessary to get me in a good buzz.

I drank it too fast and didn't count for the effects of an empty stomach. Alcohol hit me too quickly and I was too drunk and security stopped me at the door of the school. I didn't make it in.

I got suspended along with the other dozen students that always get suspended for being drunk at the school dance. I was among the laughing stock for the next couple days at school (normal, but in hindsight it was hilarious and provided for some good laughs).

Anyways, for my beta moment. I got home, disappointed at not making the dance, hopes crushed of making my move on this girl I had been crushing on for two years. I had been waiting a few months for this opportunity! Fuck I was devastated. So in my drunk state, I decided doing this would be a good idea. I opened up facebook, and decided to send her a PM. I didn't have her number so this was the logical thing to do. I calculated she would only see it the next day, but I didn't care. I wanted to get my message across. What was my message?

'I'm sorrrrryyy Katiee'

I cringe and laugh as I recall hitting send.

She definitely read it although it was never brought up. She knew I got suspended and probably connected the dots. Probably told her friends, which would have killed me at the time, doesn't bother me know it happened so long ago I'm over it.

In addition, six months prior to this I was drunk (I think the second time I had ever been drunk) and home alone. I also teared up in my emotional state and told myself over and over and over the following while lying in my bed with my legs straight up in the air against the wall (yeah, cringe worthy but cracks me up nowadays):

'i love katie i love katie i love katie'

Yeah, that was bad too. Although I think the first one was much worse, because I actually expressed it to her.

I have a couple other 'beta' stories from highschool time too. I am so GLAD I had these moments because it helped get that shit out of my system. I had enough of it and decided to learn game and eventually hit some red pill level where now I am in control of this part of my life. Shit, over the past year or two I've had cringeworthy moments like these happen to me, but as in the girl displaying some of these behaviours towards me. I remember I made out with a Portuguese girl I met through a friend at a party once with big tits, this girl was head over heels for me but I had my eyes on this stunning blonde I met that night. Two months later my friend (the one that introduced me to her) told me she saw in the girl's room that she wrote she made out with nascimento on her wall planner with the date surrounded by a heart, hah. How things have changed..

Not saying I'm running perfect 'alpha' game or anything, far from it. I still have a few lapses from time to time but its few and far in between, especially as opposed to before learning game. I also can't recall any cringeworthy game I've done in the past year. To me, this is clearly a sign of progress especially with my recent experiences and I can't wait for what is to come given the current rate of proceedings..

[Lothario]

I was trying to bang a Nurse in my Pre-game days well over 10 yrs ago and she had put me in deep Freind Zone, She asked me to help her pick out a dress for a date with another guy and I agreed went to her house, saw her change into three different dresses and picked the one that I thought looked the hottest and left

She ended up marrying that guy just because she wanted to get married to a doctor (Girl Game Recognized) She had way more connection with me then that guy, He was jealous of how we talk to each other. I missed that bang because of multitude of reasons, Betaness was One. Cringes me to even think about it these days.