[Nomad77]

I was recently talking to a forum member and he asked me how would you sum up your game style. I said, I really try to do only one thing: find a girl I truly DESIRE and then convey that DESIRE to her without any apology. When I am on point, I can be highly effective with this simply approach. He said, but a lot of the game material say don't show a girl you really want her, don't act needy. I said there is a big difference between showing a girl you want her and acting needy. When we look at a tiger going for a kill do we ever think of that tiger as looking needy? Neediness comes from a position of supplication. When your DESIRE is communicated from a position of power and dominance it's a huge turn on for girls. It hits them on a primal level that they have no control over. (This is especially true for Latin and EE/Russian girls. The more passionate the girl the more effective this will be.)

If you truly DESIRE a woman and you learn how to show this in it's purest form without wrapping it up in all of the social BS you may be very surprised how well women response to it. For that matter, this is basically Steve Jabba and Good Looking Loser game. If you distill down their game to it's essence this is what it comes down to. Now how do I show my desire? I primarily do it through my eyes and touch. I rarely verbalize it. I have found that when communicated non-verbally it is much more effective. What screws us up most of the time is that society has taught us that our sexual desire is something that should be hidden, suppressed - that it should be something we should be ashamed of. And this more than anything else is what screws up guys - this internal conflict between our desire and how society tells us we should behave. I have personally spent years trying to deprogram myself, I know it's not easy. But when I am on point with this, not only am I highly effective but it's also one of the greatest feelings in the world.

PS You can thank Cobra for encouraging me to write about the importance of desire.

[Rutting Elephant]

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[Dalaran1991]

(12-01-2014 08:13 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I was recently talking to a forum member and he asked me how would you sum up your game style. I said, I really try to do only one thing: find a girl I truly DESIRE and then convey that DESIRE to her without any apology. When I am on point, I can be highly effective with this simply approach. He said, but a lot of the game material say don't show a girl you really want her, don't act needy. I said there is a big difference between showing a girl you want her and acting needy. When we look at a tiger going for a kill do we ever think of that tiger as looking needy? Neediness comes from a position of supplication. When your DESIRE is communicated from a position of power and dominance it's a huge turn on for girls. It hits them on a primal level that they have no control over. (This is especially true for Latin and EE/Russian girls. The more passionate the girl the more effective this will be.)

If you truly DESIRE a woman and you learn how to show this in it's purest form without wrapping it up in all of the social BS you may be very surprised how well women response to it. For that matter, this is basically Steve Jabba and Good Looking Loser game. If you distill down their game to it's essence this is what it comes down to. Now how do I show my desire? I primarily do it through my eyes and touch. I rarely verbalize it. I have found that when communicated non-verbally it is much more effective. What screws us up most of the time is that society has taught us that our sexual desire is something that should be hidden, suppressed - that it should be something we should be ashamed of. And this more than anything else is what screws up guys - this internal conflict between our desire and how society tells us we should behave. I have personally spent years trying to deprogram myself, I know it's not easy. But when I am on point with this, not only am I highly effective but it's also one of the greatest feelings in the world.

PS You can thank Cobra for encouraging me to write about the importance of desire.

Agree Nomad, although I gotta say I still have trouble distinguishing between showing desire/being consistent and being needy. Yes we heard that all the time on this forum "it's all about your intention" but any guy who has been plowing the field know that it's not that easy.

So say for ex, you go to club and see a girl you know and want to fuck. You approach her with that victorious smirk and a glint in your eyes "there you are. let's dance" but for some stupid reasons she can't right now and tell you to wait a bit. Do you show desire by insisting a bit and dragging her with you? Or do you demonstrate that you don't care and just head off into the crowd. Or do you come back to find her later?

We all know that in a night game environment so many things can happen and girls have ADHD so if you want to game you have to stick to your target and insist, but every time I did this it comes off as needy, or at least the girl perceives it as needy. If you head off and leave her, well you probably won't bang her that night. If you leave to have fun and come back later she might not even be there anymore.

I tried the sub-textual sexual communication with my eyes like you suggested a long time ago and I admit it works ON GIRLS WHO ALREADY LIKE YOU. It helps speed things up, true. But the 5% of girls you run into who already like you, you just need to run "don't fuck up and don't die on the way home" game. For the vast majority of yellow light girls I've found that this is too intense (I always accompany the killer eye with a half smile to loosen things up a bit so I don't look like I'm about to eat her alive). It tends to move girls into the "No" category too soon too fast. While this might work for fast and furious screening I'm not sure it's helping me.

[Nomad77]

I am talking about when you are on a date or instadate - one on one with a girl. Clubs are terrible for conveying desiring in any subtle way and if she's young, forget it, you have to just go gorilla on her - grab her and start grinding or whatever. Once the desire is on tap then how much and how quickly you show it should depend on the girl and the situation. I show some and read the girl reaction and based on her reaction I then decide how much more to show. It's basically a form of escalation and follows the same rules. And yes, I screen hard because I value my time. Too many girls today are just attention whoring that unless you screen fast and hard you can end up wasting a lot of time.