[Virtus]

http://thedailyindignity.com/2014/03/13/...-20-years/

Shelling out $200 or more to have sex with a prostitute is an expensive way for men to get their rocks off but it’s much cheaper than getting married, an economist says.

Matthew Barnes of the University of Chicago says it’s pricier by a factor of 10 for men to get sex regularly through marriage than to hire a prostitute on a regular basis. Behind the huge gap are the long-term costs associated with marriage—mortgage, college, groceries, vacations, clothes—that don’t apply to a weekly fling with a prostitute.

“There’s more to marriage than just sex, but strictly from an economics standpoint, if the primary reason that men marry is to have a steady outlet for sex, then they’re much better off just having sex with a prostitute, says Barnes, lead author of a study that appears this month in Economics Journal.

Barnes and his research team compared the costs of getting and staying married for a 20-year period to 20 years of weekly sex with a prostitute at $200 a pop. Barnes says $200 is the median price for sex with a prostitute who prices her services at the midpoint of the market in the 20 largest metropolitan statistical areas in the United States. High-priced hookers and drug-addicted street walkers weren’t included in the sampling.

The result is eye-opening. For marriage, the 20-year price tag comes to $2 million, on average, 10 times more than the roughly $208,000 a man would pay over the same time period for a weekly liaison with prostitutes. “And the prostitutes don’t nag,” says Barnes, “or, if they do, you can just go to another one.”

Of course, with marriage you get a life companion, says Barnes, “someone to share your hopes and dreams and be there for you when you’re down, and you often get kids, which are another quality-of-life consideration. But we’re not looking at these larger issues; we’re just pulling out the sex function of marriage, and on that point, the economics couldn’t be clearer.”

Barnes says he’s not advocating for men to divorce their wives and find a hooker that they like, but for a man whose main motivation is just to have a regular source of sex, then he might seriously consider just going the prostitution route. “Or, better yet, get a girlfriend that you don’t have to marry and who doesn’t expect to eat at fancy restaurants every week,” says Barnes. “But the problem with girlfriends is they eventually want you to put up or shut up—that is, get married or take a hike. So, unless you can either find one that’s willing to go the distance without marriage or you’re such a charming guy that you can always have a girl on your arm by the time the weekend rolls around, you might as well go with the paid sex.”

Barnes and his team are now looking at whether it makes more sense from a woman’s happiness standpoint to marry a man or just get a lamp they can talk to when they’re not out with their girlfriends.

[Royale]

Economics, courtesy of Marlon Brando

[lskdfjldsf]

$200 for a hooker? That's insane. You can shop the clearance racks in Europe for €30

[Mage]

This is technically correct, but

1) It must be a very materialistic minded man indeed who just wants to have sex and doesn't care about the woman's desire being genuine or not. To simply buy a disinterested woman is a degeneracy most but not every man would be repulsed from.

2) Being a player and spinning multiple plates is more expensive then prostitutes too! (unless you target old rich women for money) Just think about that money you put in self development, clothes, travel, club fees, drinks...

I believe he is analyzing a problem that doesn't exist. Most men don't marry for sex. This is a common stereotype but its wrong. They marry because they want to connect with a woman but don't know how to keep their independence (mental, spiritual, psychological, legal and physical) in doing so.

[El Chinito loco]

I thought this was familiar but the OP's article is satire based on a real article that talked about the substitution effect between whores and wives. I remember this article created quite the ruckus and got the media hamster spinning off its wheel. If it was published today I imagine everyone would be fired and the article censored immediately.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/11/economi...ution.html


Practically speaking if you're a high earning male there's no point at all in getting married. It's just way too much liability and risk involved in the U.S. If you just look at it from a straight economics point of view it does make more sense to just use whores. Of course this article doesn't take into consideration game and getting it for free from willing girls who you have no obligations with.

[Latan]

200 $?!
Wow, I didn't know this was this expensive.
I guess it's only for 8-9 range prostitutes (?)

[WestIndianArchie]

@Mage

You can bring your cost per notch less than 200, if you don't include the time it takes to offer these chicks prime dick. Four drinks for her and an appetizer, plus some choice words is all you're likely to spend

WIA

[Mage]

(11-28-2014 05:17 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@Mage

You can bring your cost per notch less than 200, if you don't include the time it takes to offer these chicks prime dick. Four drinks for her and an appetizer, plus some choice words is all you're likely to spend

WIA

Sure the direct costs of gaming are lower when compared to direct costs of buying prostitutes. But the lifestyle of a player is more expensive then a lifestyle of a couch potato who pays to prostitutes and doesn't invest in himself.

[ryanf]

(11-28-2014 05:26 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 05:17 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@Mage

You can bring your cost per notch less than 200, if you don't include the time it takes to offer these chicks prime dick. Four drinks for her and an appetizer, plus some choice words is all you're likely to spend

WIA

Sure the direct costs of gaming are lower when compared to direct costs of buying prostitutes. But the lifestyle of a player is more expensive then a lifestyle of a couch potato who pays to prostitutes and doesn't invest in himself.

To some extent. I've recently got my expenses very, very low, while still living quite a decent lifestyle. For me, right now, it's cheaper to fuck girls off tinder or at the local bar for much, much less than $200. And that includes healthy food and a gym membership.

[Kissinger2014]

(11-28-2014 03:52 AM)Latan Wrote:  

200 $?!
Wow, I didn't know this was this expensive.
I guess it's only for 8-9 range prostitutes (?)

When former governor Elliot Spitzer was caught up in a prostitution scandal, it came out that he was paying, I believe, $7,000 per night for Ashley Dupree.

Charlie Sheen was also spending thousands a night for prostitutes to spend the night.

[The Reactionary Tree]

(11-28-2014 03:52 AM)Latan Wrote:  

200 $?!
Wow, I didn't know this was this expensive.
I guess it's only for 8-9 range prostitutes (?)

Inflation damn Federal Reserve!

[iknowexactly]

Ones that look bright, VERY slim, with perfect skin, and able to actually like sex with a strange guy are quite rare, and when I was looking were over $300 per hour. I'm NOT advocating pay for play, for me it was way too expensive and you know she doesn't even like you.

Form blue eyes, black hair a novel-- in the novel the character states paying someone for sex would be like "nobody being there at all."

[Dr. Howard]

Cardguy would have loved this thread.

[Pinocchio]

$200 is about right for good quality brass

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Even cheaper it is, if the man learns Game, even does a bootcamp and then fucks girls usually not spending more than 50$. Since dinner dates are usually idiotic unless you enjoy them a lot and would go out by yourself, your best investment is in studying Game.

Some of the Swooptheworld crew report costs per notch at 3$ - yeah they do it in poor countries and that 3$ likely buys them a glass of water for themselves. Not included are their traveling costs etc.

Be the SKITTLES MAN and not the BUY-SEXUAL BETA:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/...ttles-man/

[Dusty]

This study is massage John iz tech.

[Vitriol]

From: http://therationalmale.com/2013/08/29/as...s-it-gets/

Quote:

So where does that leave us? Back in 2003 Tom Leykis once had a great rant about how being an unmarried man, spinning plates in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties, was as good as it gets. I’m beginning to think this was more than a bit prophetic. I’ve written six individual post about the various aspects of Plate Theory, and although I presented the options for both a continued plate spinning plan and a path, at least, towards monogamy from plate theory, I’m starting to wonder if a continued, indefinite, commitment-ambiguity isn’t simply as good as it gets for men today.

For as much as Aunt Giggles would have anyone believe that both men and women want to be married – “want’s” got nothing to do with it. A desire to be married and live in an idealized and secure state of mutual love and respect with someone is really a no-brainer. The whole Minter affair (literally and figuratively) in July superimposes the idea that even the most anti-marriage guy still wants to be married, but it’s not the getting where the problem starts, it’s in the having.

I have no doubt that the idealization of marriage, enduring companionship, mutual love and respect are very strong desires for men, but as I stated in my love series, men love idealistically, whereas women’s love is rooted in opportunism. Women get very upset at this proposition because they tend to conflate an unrealistic desire for unconditional love with a love based on a man’s performance for her in order to earn and keep it. It’s not that men expect some childish form of unconditional love, it’s that a man must continue to maintain that love through performing and meriting it – this is what I mean by women loving opportunistically.

I think a lot of men go wrong by assuming a woman "actually cares about them" or something beyond what she's getting out of you whether it's money, attention, stability, or any other thing that women crave. The only difference between a whore who leaves you after the hour that you paid for and a wife that leaves you after 10 years because you lost a job is that the time frames are collapsed. Their reasons for leaving are exactly the same: the gravy train stopped.

[scotian]

Resisting the urge to bang whores down here in Colombia, where you can sleep with a young, hot prepago for $50, is one of the hardest challenges in my day-to-day life in the country.

[Duke Castile]

(11-28-2014 05:17 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@Mage

You can bring your cost per notch less than 200, if you don't include the time it takes to offer these chicks prime dick. Four drinks for her and an appetizer, plus some choice words is all you're likely to spend

WIA

I think someone is really wanting to reopen a certain debate

TEAM NO APPETIZERS!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(11-28-2014 02:19 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Resisting the urge to bang whores down here in Colombia, where you can sleep with a young, hot prepago for $50, is one of the hardest challenges in my day-to-day life in the country.

That's hard for any guy with money to burn also in the Western world especially if you have access to high-end escort services - sometimes offering girls who go off the catwalk and right into some trick's bed. I certainly had many nights battling with myself sleeping horny in my EE 5-star-hotel bed, while knowing that some of my business associates called up escorts as soon as they came back to their rooms.

Exceptions aside - it is still better to suck it up, do approaches, do online Game, do whatever and fuck for real. A woman's desire cannot be bought, not by money spent for the night and not by money spent for the wife - as many Beta husbands have found out painfully. Actually trying to buy a woman demonstrates lower sexual value to her.

Even if you are wealthy, spend as little money on her as possible - if she wants to be part of your lifestyle - fine, never try to impress her with it - she wants to find it out herself via her "feminine mystique". Only then is money part of Game as a form of accomplishment for a man.

[WestIndianArchie]

Isn't the main problem with whores is that once you start its hard to stop?

nothing is easier than paying chicks for sex.

Even if you're familiar with chatting up women, 2 benjis is infinitely easier.

WIA

(11-28-2014 02:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 02:19 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Resisting the urge to bang whores down here in Colombia, where you can sleep with a young, hot prepago for $50, is one of the hardest challenges in my day-to-day life in the country.

That's hard for any guy with money to burn also in the Western world especially if you have access to high-end escort services - sometimes offering girls who go off the catwalk and right into some trick's bed. I certainly had many nights battling with myself sleeping horny in my EE 5-star-hotel bed, while knowing that some of my business associates called up escorts as soon as they came back to their rooms.

Exceptions aside - it is still better to suck it up, do approaches, do online Game, do whatever and fuck for real. A woman's desire cannot be bought, not by money spent for the night and not by money spent for the wife - as many Beta husbands have found out painfully. Actually trying to buy a woman demonstrates lower sexual value to her.

Even if you are wealthy, spend as little money on her as possible - if she wants to be part of your lifestyle - fine, never try to impress her with it - she wants to find it out herself via her "feminine mystique". Only then is money part of Game as a form of accomplishment for a man.

[Gringuito]

(11-28-2014 02:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Exceptions aside - it is still better to suck it up, do approaches, do online Game, do whatever and fuck for real. A woman's desire cannot be bought, not by money spent for the night and not by money spent for the wife - as many Beta husbands have found out painfully. Actually trying to buy a woman demonstrates lower sexual value to her.

Even if you are wealthy, spend as little money on her as possible - if she wants to be part of your lifestyle - fine, never try to impress her with it - she wants to find it out herself via her "feminine mystique". Only then is money part of Game as a form of accomplishment for a man.

QFT

[AneroidOcean]

(11-28-2014 02:49 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Isn't the main problem with whores is that once you start its hard to stop?

nothing is easier than paying chicks for sex.

Even if you're familiar with chatting up women, 2 benjis is infinitely easier.

WIA

Well, this probably stands true for one time bangs, but if you gave a girl and at minimum get her into a few month mini relationship, the cost per bang is way lower with the non-pro.

[The Father]

It's easy to knock guys who pay. And maybe in your 20's and 30's you shouldn't pay. I'm in my 40's. I look younger and don't have to pay. But you know what? In 10 yrs i'll be middle-aged. Middle aged women have two problems: They are butt-ugly, and they have experienced the finer things in life so they EXPECT the finer things in life. Remember when you were 22? If you took your 19 y.o. girlfriend to TGI Fridays, she was thrilled just to be going out to dinner! Try that with an older bitch.

SO, my game plan for my later years is to try to troll women at the tail end of the wall...30-somethings with a couple of miles left on the odometer. I'm not Donald Trump, but I do well enough financially that I think I can pull off a 15-20 year age difference. Thing is, its not a guarantee - this will happen with less frequency than a 29 year old guy can pull quality ass. And even when I succeed...the chick is still 35 not 21...and that's a big difference in body tone!

So yeah, I expect to supplement with professionals at some point. I get easy access to sex, I get variety, I get youthfulness, and I get top-notch talent. Without having to mortgage my future. So yeah, there's a place in the world for professional sex, just like their is a place for any other professional service! You don't go to an amateur doctor, do you? An amateur car mechanic? Amateur lawyer? No. You go to a pro.

[Kingsley Davis]

Is Prof Barnes still employed at the university? Take a seat with your colleagues.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-41372-...#pid854268