[Constitution45]

Aha interesting comments. I swallowed the red pill a long time ago, this isn't so much a new concept to me, just that this has been happening a lot lately. If there are girls in clubs who claim to have a boyfriend, I won't listen to them and just carry on but in this case I mentioned above, the way she was describing him and his family; they seemed to be good people.

The question about what to do, is a difficult one. This isn't exactly a recent phenomena, I mean throughout history, there are countless stories of men being tested by women, being cheated on, having to basically go their own way.

As said before you have to always be prepared to walk away, make your mission your plan. Obviously this is hard to do further down the line though, when you will be having kids etc. Anyway interesting discussion, as someone said before, this is essentially their nature, hypergamy and all that.

[runsonmagic]

Women often don't break up with one man till they have another waiting in the wings.

She could simply be trying to generate enough interest so that you'll orbit her, and trying to keep you as a backup boyfriend. It could also be certain women see you as higher value than their boyfriends and would be willing to jump ship if you showed interest.

What you do depends on what you want. You have to come at this from a purely self-interested perspective. Is this the kind of woman you want? The kind of relationship?

Personally, I would make sure not to give her anything you wouldn't give to a women you found ugly. She wouldn't jump ship without knowing she had another waiting. Don't offer her a safe harbor till she's already sailing away from her former man.

[Constitution45]

(11-26-2014 08:29 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Women often don't break up with one man till they have another waiting in the wings.

She could simply be trying to generate enough interest so that you'll orbit her, and trying to keep you as a backup boyfriend. It could also be certain women see you as higher value than their boyfriends and would be willing to jump ship if you showed interest.

What you do depends on what you want. You have to come at this from a purely self-interested perspective. Is this the kind of woman you want? The kind of relationship?

Personally, I would make sure not to give her anything you wouldn't give to a women you found ugly. She wouldn't jump ship without knowing she had another waiting. Don't offer her a safe harbor till she's already sailing away from her former man.

She is a blonde 9/10, showed a lot of kindness to other people which I noticed before I started speaking to her, very smart as well.

If she was single then I would defiantly hit it, but to be honest I will probably just ignore her. It will unintentionally game her but I don't have the time nor energy to orbit a girl who has a boyfriend, at the moment I am trying to start a business, while working night shifts and studying.


Due to reading sites and posts from guys like you for a while; as well as focusing on self improvement, I have developed a reputation for myself. A lot of girls in this year of university have come up to me to "try and find out more".

Just having some "red pill" concepts in your head, can really make you stand out from the others in the Anglosphere. Most people unfortunately are not even half way there.

[LeBeau]

Sometimes it's not so bad if the other guy finds out.

If 80's music videos have taught me anything, it could result in a lot of funny comments and some valuable lessons (skip to 2:00):

[Backarch]

(11-26-2014 09:31 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:29 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Women often don't break up with one man till they have another waiting in the wings.

She could simply be trying to generate enough interest so that you'll orbit her, and trying to keep you as a backup boyfriend. It could also be certain women see you as higher value than their boyfriends and would be willing to jump ship if you showed interest.

What you do depends on what you want. You have to come at this from a purely self-interested perspective. Is this the kind of woman you want? The kind of relationship?

Personally, I would make sure not to give her anything you wouldn't give to a women you found ugly. She wouldn't jump ship without knowing she had another waiting. Don't offer her a safe harbor till she's already sailing away from her former man.

She is a blonde 9/10, showed a lot of kindness to other people which I noticed before I started speaking to her, very smart as well.

If she was single then I would defiantly hit it, but to be honest I will probably just ignore her. It will unintentionally game her but I don't have the time nor energy to orbit a girl who has a boyfriend, at the moment I am trying to start a business, while working night shifts and studying.


Due to reading sites and posts from guys like you for a while; as well as focusing on self improvement, I have developed a reputation for myself. A lot of girls in this year of university have come up to me to "try and find out more".

Just having some "red pill" concepts in your head, can really make you stand out from the others in the Anglosphere. Most people unfortunately are not even half way there.

I probably wouldn't touch her unless I had some kind of problem with the other guy. I have been there, the guys above that say she is either looking for something to help her emotional instability or some validation are right. It will just get messy.
Strange thing is I have seen this happen to both beta and alpha males... If I was you I might use it as an opportunity to educate her a little and drop some red pill on her because in her mind nothing is wrong... ask her what commitment means to her and watch the world unravel in her eyes. Hopefully, it will lead to some soul searching and less whoring. Maybe, you can save her before she is worthless to any man of value.

[Ingocnito]

I assume pretty much every girl has a boyfriend, or at minimum 1 or more fuck buddies and a crew of beta orbiters. With social media and phones, the orbiters are an automatic. And most women wanna fuck before too long, so that's almost always occurring with someone when you meet her the first time.

Always lining up future options to empower themselves for leverage in the most serious relationship they have cooking. Just figure out who your guy friends are or social circles that could railroad your life, and stay the fuck away from their bitches... that's the moral line I draw, and one of self preservation.

[Green-On-GO]

I was on holiday last year in Spain for the first time in over a decade.
Anyway there was this really pretty English girl, juicy as .She was really swinging her arse around the place while she walked with her man.
Anyway later I'm in the pub and I find out they have been married for one year.I was actually drinking with the guy,he was a real decent bloke.
The night goes on and I'm tuning this young Estonian bird.The English guy ask me to play pool.
I'm crap I say but I slaughter him.
Anyway we laughed and shook hands ,his wife steps up as he turns around she gives me a hug and whispers in my ear
"I want you to fuck me hard".... Instant hard on
Her husband is 2 meters away happy as a pig in shit buying me a drink.I couldn't do it, not to a man I'm drinking with.It would be unAustralian in my book...I'm sure someone else has banged her though.
Three days or so later I banged a Bulgarian chick while her boyfriend (who I never met) was touring the Nou Camp with his mates.
Then there was the Dutch girl with the cop boyfriend who invited me to her room but was angry because I tricked her .....she didn't know I was 42..she was 24 .I'm getting over divorce not attached but I'm the cunt?....fuck it took me 4 days and hello in in 5 languages to get into that room...

[Parlay44]

Good story. Women are fucked up. That's how she keeps power over her beta husband. It's funny how you call him a decent bloke. As in he's a good person and a respectable man. It's not what they want.

[tallandblonde]

(11-26-2014 08:29 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Women often don't break up with one man till they have another waiting in the wings.

These types of women are the worst. They bounce from relationship to relationship and they jump at the first person that meets their standards and is willing to be committed.

The second an "ok" option rolls around, they are all over it. But that doesn't prevent them from jumping ship to a "good" or "great" option given the chance that they find someone with a higher SMV. Their self esteem is so low that they don't feel attractive unless they are currently in a relationship.

And, if you do in fact end up dating one of these "serial monogamist" you better believe that they will leave you the second a better option comes along. Never date a girl who isn't ok with being single.