[MdWanderer]

Interesting thread. I have been currently on a few dates with a girl I have met at church. Very feminine; loves to cook, soft spoken, rarely drinks, virgin. We even already made dinner for each other.

But I've been trying hard not to slip up at times, but I do. This (if things materialize) will be my first LTR in four years. Have had bangs since then, but no relationships. Pros: haven't shown neediness, have been decisive when it comes to making plans, haven't spent too much money on dates and she contributes at times $$$ wise, she calls me more than I call her, tease her on occasion and I have shown that I can disagree with her on some things. Cons: have been answering the phone almost every time she calls, and am possibly being "too much" of a gentleman (holding doors, walking her back to her car). I know that the "cons" don't sound like too big of a deal but sadly in this feminist day and age, you never know when a girl will get tiresome of this and end the relationship. I'll admit I have been a bit gunshy and avoiding asshole moves due to her religious background and meeting her in my social circle.

But I will say that damaged girls liked to be treated like shit, but it's not worth it entering relationships with them anyway, so it's no big loss.

[Stoolio]

(10-07-2016 09:52 AM)Chetthebaker Wrote:  

The tough part is how counter-intuitive it gets when you actually dig a girl. Sucks that it's just easier to hang on to girls you're less into, since then you have the power.

That's spot on.. The DGAF attitude wins over most girls. I have that exact problem where its so fucking easy with 90% of the girls, the ones I could give a shit less about, and the 10% i care about is exponentially harder to manage.

[Robert Plant]

(10-08-2016 12:02 AM)Stoolio Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:52 AM)Chetthebaker Wrote:  

The tough part is how counter-intuitive it gets when you actually dig a girl. Sucks that it's just easier to hang on to girls you're less into, since then you have the power.

That's spot on.. The DGAF attitude wins over most girls. I have that exact problem where its so fucking easy with 90% of the girls, the ones I could give a shit less about, and the 10% i care about is exponentially harder to manage.

The trick is to be really kinky and dominant in the bedroom. If you do this well, you will be able to be yourself outside the bedroom, assuming you aren't a complete push over.

[preppy]

It doesnt' always matter what you say, it really depends on their mood & how receptive they are at the moment. You have to calibrate the reply. Using classic game isn't as effective because the average women is getting a 100 messages an hour (via different online platforms), in the US at least.

[iknowexactly]

(10-07-2016 02:25 PM)Palo_alto Wrote:  

You are 100% right on plates that are constantly spinning

Not so sure about LTR

If you're referring to showing her your ability to leave, I do think they demand retesting. It's like you're an elevator in a building and she has to make sure you're running right lol.

That's what makes it so mystifying, you both are getting along great, and then she antagonizes you in a seemingly absurd non-productive way.

It's very different from how male friends are-- once the parameters are set for relationship, you both get along well until one of you is highly stressed or has demands from a third party that divide you.

Women have to keep re-certifying you.