[Tony Snow25]

I have a few friends that I actually consider good friends and I think it's good to have friends that you can rely on and chill with. When it comes to game some of my friends like going out and meeting girls while others have serious girlfriends and aren't as into game. I have some friends I prefer going out with than others. But I could care less because I usually fly solo when I want to go out and meet girls unless I'm with my friends that are about going out and meeting girls. Just do you and what you want to do when it comes to game. But its good to have friends that are legit.

[Duke Castile]

(04-19-2011 09:45 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Personally, I find it preferable not to have friends. Humans are unpredictable. I've got a lot of people I could call if I needed a ride or wanted to just kick it, but I wouldn't consider them friends. I might be being misanthropic though, I do know I havent been exposed to many quality people in my age group so far in my life.

Fuck bro, that's sad.

[Gringo]

(04-19-2011 03:24 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I think he is observing that females rarely bring anything to the table in a friendship.

I disagree, they can bring just as much if not more than most guys can.

(04-19-2011 05:57 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I pretty much agree 1,000% with the fellas spitting this school of thought. Women rarely make good friends, are disloyal, cockblocking, envious, manipulative, and flaky (among other things). Strangely--or perhaps predictably--they have a lot in common with beta-ass dudes. Think about it: your chump-beta friends share a lot of the same characteristics with females.

So no different from most men, why not have them as friends.

(04-19-2011 09:45 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Personally, I find it preferable not to have friends. Humans are unpredictable. I've got a lot of people I could call if I needed a ride or wanted to just kick it, but I wouldn't consider them friends. I might be being misanthropic though, I do know I havent been exposed to many quality people in my age group so far in my life.

This is pretty sad. You say you haven't been exposed to many quality people in your age group, it might not be others the problem is with but yourself if you can't make any good friends. Seems like you just want to use people anyway 'for a ride' or to 'kick it' when it suits you.

[Andreas]

I spoke about game to close friends and friends who i haven't got in touch for a while and they just don't give a damn about it. They use facebook and i cannot fucking believe it why aren't they paying attention to the most important thing in their life. "Cold approaches". Why are they so disinterested, i don't get, my mind just doesn't accept this i just wanna bang them with a hand cannon on their heads when we are together and they comment on all the sexy girls without approaching. I hear this line like 100 times when i go out with friends "Dude i like that chick a lot" and without even knowing her they make 100 judgements. I just can't wait to get my own shitty car and go solo in bars. For the moment it's just street game and some approaches in other public gatherings with groups of people

[Chad Daring]

(04-20-2011 03:49 AM)Gringo Wrote:  

(04-19-2011 09:45 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Personally, I find it preferable not to have friends. Humans are unpredictable. I've got a lot of people I could call if I needed a ride or wanted to just kick it, but I wouldn't consider them friends. I might be being misanthropic though, I do know I havent been exposed to many quality people in my age group so far in my life.

This is pretty sad. You say you haven't been exposed to many quality people in your age group, it might not be others the problem is with but yourself if you can't make any good friends. Seems like you just want to use people anyway 'for a ride' or to 'kick it' when it suits you.

Isn't that how we all start out though? You "get a ride" or "kick it" with someone because you want to, and after a while THEN you realize that they're worth something as a friend. To me a friend will prove their worth, but not intentionally.

Though I will say this, most betas I've known, dont have any real friends . They'll shit talk them behind their back at the drop of a hat because all betas do is vent. I was very beta almost all my life (up until the last few months) Having jobs that had me working nonstop starting when I was 17 until 23 hasn't helped either, though I know thats a flimsy excuse.

I'm hoping that my possible move out the DC burbs into the city proper combined with my new outlook and a job that allows me free time will let me shake this habit.

[Gringo]

It seems though even these people will do you favours like give you a ride (which obviously means they value you as a friend otherwise they wouldn't do it) you still don't class them as friends, you just see them as someone you can get something from. Everyone needs friends. Almost everything in life is better with company. Shared experiences are usually better than experiences alone.

[Chad Daring]

For the record I've never gotten a ride from someone, ever. I was always the guy called to give a ride.

Actually now that I think about it that might be why. I had a lot of issues in highschool and some in college where people that were "Friends" ended up just using me. I'd buy stuff, do favors, and go out of my way for them, but it was never returned. This does kinda go back to my initial statement of not being able to find any decent people in my age group.

I will say I do want to break this trend though. In much the same way not getting laid finally got to the last straw and I began to venture out (and eventually ended up here) I'm feeling more isolated because of my lack of friends.

[BusanCanuck]

Problem is, a lot of guys these days are basically women with dicks. All the cattiness, gabbing about bullshit, petty bullshit, jealousy, hissy fits and everything else, but no pussy. A lot of guys aren't worth a squirt of piss and they deserve to get fucked over by whatever dumpy little hag who tolerates their presence, until they man up.

Guy friends are essential, but make sure that they're legit, competent, and most importantly, MEN.

Be selective about who you associate with. Why expect nothing other than the best?

[46.]

(06-16-2011 08:45 PM)BusanCanuck Wrote:  

Problem is, a lot of guys these days are basically women with dicks. All the cattiness, gabbing about bullshit, petty bullshit, jealousy, hissy fits and everything else, but no pussy. A lot of guys aren't worth a squirt of piss and they deserve to get fucked over by whatever dumpy little hag who tolerates their presence, until they man up.

Guy friends are essential, but make sure that they're legit, competent, and most importantly, MEN.

Be selective about who you associate with. Why expect nothing other than the best?

Great post. Unfortunately, this is true. It sounds strange, but one way to really understand the dudes you hang out is through sports. I've been on 6 or 7 different soccer teams over the last decade, and now I'm discovering that some of my best homies are the ones who were most admirable on the field. Not a concidence.

Selfish players tend to be the ones who will try to get over on you later like overcompensating wusses-they're always hiding something ("cattiness"). Glory hogs turn out be the last to back you up when its most needed ("gabbing about bullshit"). Complainers, no matter how good, are the backbone-lacking types ("hissyfits"). Weak, nondescript players tend to be weak people afraid to step up and need personal babysitting ("competent").

The best guys are the guys that go all-out (regardless of skill), don't cry when things go bad, always have your back, and are quick to hook you up with the post game gin and tonic. Sports lay out the true nature of a guy pretty quick.

[BortimusPrime]

The funny thing is that friendships seem to work out like game is supposed to make relationships work out. Since you aren't trying to fuck your friends (hopefully), you're more likely to be naturally picky and only pay attention to the guys who you actually find interesting and aren't assholes. Thus, you naturally tend to thin the herd into a select few guys you actually like as you get older, while losing contact with all the tools you knew in high school and college. I'd rather have one interesting friend than all the douchey acquaintances I had back in school.