[dholland662]

I searched the forum for something on this and did not find any despite it seemingly being a topic of conversation.

More and more I see MRAs parroting what are feminist talking points and arguments, simply for men.

And ultimately, I don't too much care for the here and now of this but I simply have one question, what is their plan?

Is it more state control over gender relations? Is it using the artificial womb to change gender relations as Stardusk seems keen on?

Because, like feminism, they seem to just have endless grievances and petty victories to sustain them.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Since feminism is based on imaginary injustices done to women and MRA(-ism?) is based on quite real and well-documented injustices done to men, I'd say that it's not the equivalent of it. Nor would I say the same for their methods - given the immense amount of legal discrimination against them, petty victories are the only thing they can have.

However, it's true that they will never achieve anything, simply because our biological differences mean that men will never make good victims or incite enough public outrage to change something significant.

That said, there are certainly some crazy people in that movement too. Being massacred in the divorce grinder probably permanently embitters the mind.

[la_mode]

There is sort of a "counterbalance aspect", similar to the progressive vs conservative agenda you see played out every election year in regards to TV ads or the countless brochures they send out in the mail.

Example:

Republican Tim Pumpernickel supports traditional marriage, is pro life, and has a perfect score from the NRA
Democrat Marge Huckleberry will stand for queer marriage, is pro choice and believes in strict gun control

[El Chinito loco]

From what i've seen a lot of MRAs are older men (45+) who have been divorce raped once and maybe even multiple times. One of the main MRA topics is the unfair treatment of men in North American family court. People also wrongly attribute MGTOW stuff with MRAs all the time but it's different.

MRAs don't always agree with the stuff we talk about on here. Quite a few are even ardent game denialists and religious traditionalists.

I believe MRAs are more purple pill. They want to change the system from within through activism but haven't grasped the full red pill spectrum. I don't consider them to be the male version of "feminism." Like someone already said MRAs usually have good rational arguments concerning the decline of U.S. society.

Modern feminism is all about moral panic, hypocrisy, and increasing the social standing of white american females over everyone else.

[2Wycked]

(10-28-2014 01:52 AM)dholland662 Wrote:  

I searched the forum for something on this and did not find any despite it seemingly being a topic of conversation.

More and more I see MRAs parroting what are feminist talking points and arguments, simply for men.

And ultimately, I don't too much care for the here and now of this but I simply have one question, what is their plan?

Is it more state control over gender relations? Is it using the artificial womb to change gender relations as Stardusk seems keen on?

Because, like feminism, they seem to just have endless grievances and petty victories to sustain them.

Google search is your friend:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37117.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-30713.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-17180.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37509.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-18341.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-33891.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7910.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7676.html

While MRA's have been talked about before on this forum, why would you ask about their motives on a forum that simply acknowledges and discusses their existence?

My wild suggestion is to actually go and read MRA blogs and posts. Instead of reading second-hand posts on Slate or WhateverYouReadForNews, just go read MRA posts.

Do you really want subjectivity explained to you?

[Captain Gh]

Also a good reference for you is to read books the author Warren Farrell, especially the Myth of Male Power. This one is simply a classic that is irrefutable.

[Roosh]