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Sex is sex but money is money
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Sex is sex but money is money

https://medium.com/matter/sex-is-sex-but...c10091713f


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Before my job I never did blow jobs for boyfriends. If they would ask, I would be like, “Are you kidding me?” Or if they would say, “Change positions,” I would be like, “What are you talking about?”

Since I quit, no blow jobs, either. If you’re dating somebody and he didn’t live good before, and you start giving him blow jobs and doing different positions, you can spoil him. I don’t want to spoil someone that much.

I don't know whether the story is true or not, but it's definetely a good read.
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#2

Sex is sex but money is money

Choice quote,

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I don’t suffer from what my American girlfriends call “daddy issues”

And then, one sentence later,

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My dad had lovers.

But I'm sure those things don't equate, right honey? Your dad frequenting prostitutes had nothing to with you equating your own personal worth to trading sex for money. The fact that he had frequent lovers, showing you at a young age that being a main woman wouldn't make a man happy but being a peripheral woman would, had zero impact on your decision to be an actual, literal whore.

Also: The statue of limitations on prostitution in New York is 5 years - she states that she stopped prostituting herself a year ago. She could be put in jail for this piece.
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#3

Sex is sex but money is money

The inline comments are amazing.

Captain save-a-ho and his merry band of white knights are out in force, telling her how amazing she is, and how it's all the fault of capitalism.

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#4

Sex is sex but money is money

One of the more reasonable articles on prostitution. If I was a woman, I'd probably be doing the same as her. It's just a rational choice.

That said, I find it hilarious how she blames American men's lack of success with women on them not spending money. Women simply can't understand the nuances of the sexual market.

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#5

Sex is sex but money is money

I read some of it. A 24 year old woman is so damaged from being a whore that she can never bond with a man. She thinks a blow job is a chore that should only be done for money. So typical.

She should not date anymore. She should just stay a whore and do everyone a favor by taking herself off the market for dating. She could never love anything. That kind of damage is permanent. The kind of stuff only Jesus could heal.

What's the over under on that college porn star belle or whatever she is, saying the same damn thing, or has she?

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#6

Sex is sex but money is money

These whores are so fucking stupid I somehow feel this really isn't for the money. She said she and her friend could make 80k in a month. Have they any clue what kind of businesses, legit ones, they could start with that much cash?

Why not franchise a fast food joint or something? It's almost like they know that shit is a drug to them, that they cannot get off.

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#7

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 02:59 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

These whores are so fucking stupid I somehow feel this really isn't for the money. She said she and her friend could make 80k in a month. Have they any clue what kind of businesses, legit ones, they could start with that much cash?

Why not franchise a fast food joint or something? It's almost like they know that shit is a drug to them, that they cannot get off.

One is hard work, the other gives you sore knee's.

She would take a couple of sore ones I guess.
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#8

Sex is sex but money is money

From the article:

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Since I quit, no blow jobs, either. If you’re dating somebody and he didn’t live good before, and you start giving him blow jobs and doing different positions, you can spoil him. I don’t want to spoil someone that much.

Dating an ex-hooker who is Saving the Best, well if that don't sound like a plan...
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#9

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 02:59 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

These whores are so fucking stupid I somehow feel this really isn't for the money. She said she and her friend could make 80k in a month. Have they any clue what kind of businesses, legit ones, they could start with that much cash?

Why not franchise a fast food joint or something? It's almost like they know that shit is a drug to them, that they cannot get off.

Look at the list of her outlays just to go and fuck a businessman:
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Every time I met a client it was a performance, so I prepared. My mascara cost $130. Hair color was $200; eye shadow was $50, as was foundation and lipstick. A nice lingerie set costs at least $100; I spent $600. Not to mention the shoes.

Those aren't expenses, they're a rationalisation for her personal wish list.

Would you really trust someone like that running a small business? Or would their Subway franchise end up with Italian marble floors and antique hand-carved regency chairs?

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#10

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 02:59 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

These whores are so fucking stupid I somehow feel this really isn't for the money. She said she and her friend could make 80k in a month. Have they any clue what kind of businesses, legit ones, they could start with that much cash?

Why not franchise a fast food joint or something? It's almost like they know that shit is a drug to them, that they cannot get off.

I punched her numbers into a retirement calculator and at age 24 with 200K already saved, she is on track to retire at age 65 with a 60K income, assuming she continues to save at a rate of 5% of income.

So really, all she needs to do is find a reasonably decent job, move to a place with lower cost of living, and make sure she doesn't blow her nest egg.
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#11

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 03:21 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

Look at the list of her outlays just to go and fuck a businessman:
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Every time I met a client it was a performance, so I prepared. My mascara cost $130. Hair color was $200; eye shadow was $50, as was foundation and lipstick. A nice lingerie set costs at least $100; I spent $600. Not to mention the shoes.

Those aren't expenses, they're a rationalisation for her personal wish list.

Would you really trust someone like that running a small business? Or would their Subway franchise end up with Italian marble floors and antique hand-carved regency chairs?

The difference between an investment banker and an expensive hooker is:

An investment banker makes enough money to fuck an expensive hooker.

Whereas an expensive hooker makes enough money to be an expensive hooker....
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#12

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 02:59 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

These whores are so fucking stupid I somehow feel this really isn't for the money. She said she and her friend could make 80k in a month. Have they any clue what kind of businesses, legit ones, they could start with that much cash?

Why not franchise a fast food joint or something? It's almost like they know that shit is a drug to them, that they cannot get off.

Wrong question. What other kind of business could she run with 80k month profits?

And plenty of rich athletes bankrupt themselves trying "invest" in businesses they aren't qualified to run. She seems qualified to run an escort agency, but that's a high risk business. What kind of business would she NOT run into the ground, and then end up hooking again in her 30s for less money?
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#13

Sex is sex but money is money

Also what the article doesn't cover if I remember correctly is whether she declared the prostitution proceeds on her tax return. Because if not, they are illegal and untaxed income, and before being able to invest those funds into a business, she would have to launder them first.
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#14

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 03:27 PM)WD-40 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-20-2014 02:59 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

These whores are so fucking stupid I somehow feel this really isn't for the money. She said she and her friend could make 80k in a month. Have they any clue what kind of businesses, legit ones, they could start with that much cash?

Why not franchise a fast food joint or something? It's almost like they know that shit is a drug to them, that they cannot get off.

I punched her numbers into a retirement calculator and at age 24 with 200K already saved, she is on track to retire at age 65 with a 60K income, assuming she continues to save at a rate of 5% of income.

So really, all she needs to do is find a reasonably decent job, move to a place with lower cost of living, and make sure she doesn't blow her nest egg.

Yeah, I seriously doubt it will happen like that. I'd imagine the $200,000 saved was an exaggeration too begin with, although it's definitely possible. Girls her age aren't prone to saving or being frugal, especially when she is accustomed to a high quality of life through her clients.

Odds are she's spending like she'll be a top-tier whore forever, although her ability to pick up new clients is dropping by the day.

I'm a bigger supporter of prostitution though, so good for her. I would never date or pay for one, but giving guys options to avoid fucking fatties is always a good thing. I doubt there are too many happy whores, and even fewer older happy whores, but I'm sure it can happy.

Good luck for her and whatever simp she ends up with.
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#15

Sex is sex but money is money

I just read the whole article. There was a lot of hamster in it, but I thought it was a very interesting story.

I knew upper tier prostitutes made a lot of money, but wow, I didn't think it would be this much.

A girl with elite genetics in the 18 - 25 year age range can make more money than anyone.
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#16

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 06:44 PM)Hedonistic Traveler Wrote:  

Yeah, I seriously doubt it will happen like that. I'd imagine the $200,000 saved was an exaggeration too begin with, although it's definitely possible. Girls her age aren't prone to saving or being frugal, especially when she is accustomed to a high quality of life through her clients.

Let's say she did only ten sessions a week at $900 per session. That's $9K a week and $468K a year. Pretty decent money even for NYC. How come she only ended up with $200K after a couple of years even though she probably paid no taxes?

The reason is that you start running out of mattress to hide the cash in. Plus it's dangerous to keep that much cash around because if some not-so-nice people happen to figure out that you're a high-end hooker, they easily can put 2+2 together and drop by your pad to smack you around a bit and slit open your furniture.

Assuming she had been able to retain half of her earnings, to get that much money out of the country into an offshore bank account, she would have needed to do 23 international trips per year (because you can only take less than $10K per trip without having to declare it to customs).

That's one trip every two weeks, so basically couriering your cash out already becomes a serious part-time job in and of itself. Plus you would need to stash the funds in an account (probably several) linked to a foreign passport because most jurisdictions these days have been forced into FATCA. Doing all of this right takes some careful thinking, planning and persistence.

The main reason why these gals blow through their cash is not so much because they are impulsive and don't want to save, but because stashing it effectively takes a very different kind of skill set than the one they need for their job.

If she is sane, a girl that is financially savvy and has the goods to be a high end hooker is inevitably going to realize that she is better off playing the long game- finding a rich dude to marry so that she can help him manage his investments and/or his business.

I know that most of you are going to say this is a bad idea, but I for one could actually really use that kind of help. With a competent finance/tax whiz wife backing me up, I could take my side hustle to the next level.

And there are a lot of guys like me out there, who are already doing well by themselves but know that they could move even bigger mountains, given the right lever.

Point being, if a girl is actually smart enough to find a way to make prostitution pay off financially, then she will have the brains to know how to play a different kind of game. It's not so much a personality issue as a question of having enough raw intellectual horsepower to be able to leverage yourself in a better way.
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#17

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 08:30 PM)Biologist Wrote:  

I just read the whole article. There was a lot of hamster in it, but I thought it was a very interesting story.

I knew upper tier prostitutes made a lot of money, but wow, I didn't think it would be this much.

A girl with elite genetics in the 18 - 25 year age range can make more money than anyone.

This is America - pretty good genetics with a good diet and attitude and put you in the top 1%.

A hot girl that hasn't abused herself can make as much as some NFL players...for about the same amount of time.
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#18

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 08:38 PM)WD-40 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-20-2014 06:44 PM)Hedonistic Traveler Wrote:  

Yeah, I seriously doubt it will happen like that. I'd imagine the $200,000 saved was an exaggeration too begin with, although it's definitely possible. Girls her age aren't prone to saving or being frugal, especially when she is accustomed to a high quality of life through her clients.

Let's say she did only ten sessions a week at $900 per session. That's $9K a week and $468K a year. Pretty decent money even for NYC. How come she only ended up with $200K after a couple of years even though she probably paid no taxes?

The reason is that you start running out of mattress to hide the cash in. Plus it's dangerous to keep that much cash around because if some not-so-nice people happen to figure out that you're a high-end hooker, they easily can put 2+2 together and drop by your pad to smack you around a bit and slit open your furniture.

Assuming she had been able to retain half of her earnings, to get that much money out of the country into an offshore bank account, she would have needed to do 23 international trips per year (because you can only take less than $10K per trip without having to declare it to customs).

That's one trip every two weeks, so basically couriering your cash out already becomes a serious part-time job in and of itself. Plus you would need to stash the funds in an account (probably several) linked to a foreign passport because most jurisdictions these days have been forced into FATCA. Doing all of this right takes some careful thinking, planning and persistence.

The main reason why these gals blow through their cash is not so much because they are impulsive and don't want to save, but because stashing it effectively takes a very different kind of skill set than the one they need for their job.

If she is sane, a girl that is financially savvy and has the goods to be a high end hooker is inevitably going to realize that she is better off playing the long game- finding a rich dude to marry so that she can help him manage his investments and/or his business.

I know that most of you are going to say this is a bad idea, but I for one could actually really use that kind of help. With a competent finance/tax whiz wife backing me up, I could take my side hustle to the next level.

And there are a lot of guys like me out there, who are already doing well by themselves but know that they could move even bigger mountains, given the right lever.

Point being, if a girl is actually smart enough to find a way to make prostitution pay off financially, then she will have the brains to know how to play a different kind of game. It's not so much a personality issue as a question of having enough raw intellectual horsepower to be able to leverage yourself in a better way.

"I know that most of you are going to say this is a bad idea"

It's a bad idea. What kind of rich guy would needs a hooker to tell him how to run his business? That's worse than hiring a brain damaged ex-jock that used to have 500k a year arm to run your business for you.

Guys, this is not a hard industry to be a superstar in. Simply being smart enough not to give your money to someone that's beating the shit out of you makes you above average.

If she were Heidi Fleising it, getting other top girls to work for her and taking a share of their money, that would be impressive. What she is doing here is really basic, and only exceptional due to the number of retards, drug addicts and fools in the industry.

You could work for an established agency for at the beginning of your career, and know all the industry Best Practices within 3 months (along with a quality client list). If you had half a brain, you could learn most of them off the internet in about the same time.

As it is, she's the equivalent of a genetically gifted NFL defensive lineman from the projects that has managed to not completely blow through her money. This is not impressive.

That's not who you put in charge of your business.
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#19

Sex is sex but money is money

She's only 24 so she has plenty of time to blow her money
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#20

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 09:00 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

It's a bad idea. What kind of rich guy would needs a hooker to tell him how to run his business? That's worse than hiring a brain damaged ex-jock that used to have 500k a year arm to run your business for you.

No, no, no. That's not what I was suggesting at all.

What I was saying was:

The kind of woman you want is a woman who is hot enough to be a high end hooker (if she wanted to) but smart enough not to be. These are the kinds of women who you will find helping rich dudes run their investments and businesses.
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#21

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 09:18 PM)WD-40 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-20-2014 09:00 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

It's a bad idea. What kind of rich guy would needs a hooker to tell him how to run his business? That's worse than hiring a brain damaged ex-jock that used to have 500k a year arm to run your business for you.

No, no, no. That's not what I was suggesting at all.

What I was saying was:

The kind of woman you want is a woman who is hot enough to be a high end hooker (if she wanted to) but smart enough not to be. These are the kinds of women who you will find helping rich dudes run their investments and businesses.

A woman running your finances sounds like the worst kind of nightmare in divorce court. Why anybody would willingly take that kind of risk when they could instead learn finance is beyond me.
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#22

Sex is sex but money is money

No hate from me. Playing the hand that God dealt her. She's smarter than a hot girl who has a long string of one night stands without making a dime.

Don't hate the player.
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#23

Sex is sex but money is money

"The kind of woman you want is a woman who is hot enough to be a high end hooker (if she wanted to) but smart enough not to be."

Not this girl then, because she is a seasoned hooker with the smell of a thousand cocks wafting from her breath. However, she is smart enough to never blow the beta she settles down with. Sounds like a bargain to me.
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#24

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 09:35 PM)Hades Wrote:  

A woman running your finances sounds like the worst kind of nightmare in divorce court. Why anybody would willingly take that kind of risk when they could instead learn finance is beyond me.

Well, I happen to know a couple of these dudes. One of them manages a commercial real estate investment trust for a living so I suppose you could say he learned finance. Both he and his wife working together can barely keep on top of all the paperwork for their personal finances and investments. For example, just the monthly and quarterly account statements for their brokerage and bank accounts cover the entire dining room table. It is absolutely insane. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. Good luck keeping tabs on all that without a wife that really has her shit together.
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#25

Sex is sex but money is money

Quote: (10-20-2014 09:55 PM)WD-40 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-20-2014 09:35 PM)Hades Wrote:  

A woman running your finances sounds like the worst kind of nightmare in divorce court. Why anybody would willingly take that kind of risk when they could instead learn finance is beyond me.

Well, I happen to know a couple of these dudes. One of them manages a commercial real estate investment trust for a living so I suppose you could say he learned finance. Both he and his wife working together can barely keep on top of all the paperwork for their personal finances and investments. For example, just the monthly and quarterly account statements for their brokerage and bank accounts cover the entire dining room table. It is absolutely insane. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. Good luck keeping tabs on all that without a wife that really has her shit together.

Most successful businessmen invest in these things called "secretaries" that only cost 50k a year instead of taking your house.

"It is absolutely insane."

Correct, it's absolutely insane. Forget about a divorce, what if you have an argument and aren't on speaking terms for a few days? Do your clients just get fucked?

And you're suggesting a thousand cock veteran that doesn't believe in blowing her husband would be good candidate for such a position?
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