[Basil Ransom]

That old bête noire of the left, Mark Regnerus, has another study out, which finds that Chrsitians who support the marriage of sodomites and sapphists are a lot more 'permissive' in other ways.

Regnerus:

At a glance, there is a pretty obvious fissure between Christians who do and do not oppose same-sex marriage. More than seven times as many of the latter think pornography is OK. Three times as many back cohabiting as a good idea, six times as many are OK with no-strings-attached sex, five times as many think adultery could be permissible, thirteen times as many have no issue with polyamorous relationships, and six times a many support abortion rights.

Commentator:

In other words, being OK with gay marriage, even as a self-identified church-attending Christian, is a very strong indicator of possessing very liberal sexual morals in those additional areas unrelated to the gay marriage idea — porn, “shacking-up,” no-strings sex, adultery, polyamory, abortion. There was no substantial difference between the results for the general population and the “supporting SSM” Christians. It’s those “haters” (opposing SSM) traditional Christians who are out-of-step with the “new morality” of our country. -

See more at: http://m.columbiadailyherald.com/opinion...KGrMn.dpuf

[L M McCoy]

OH please, who here hasn't fucked a pastor's daughter?

[Jack198]

Why do people like that even bother going through the motions of any Abrahamic religion if they're going to disregard it all? Total waste of time and oxygen.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(10-08-2014 05:21 PM)Jack198 Wrote:  

Why do people like that even bother going through the motions of any Abrahamic religion if they're going to disregard it all? Total waste of time and oxygen.

Because attention whoring produces a dopamine boost in their brains.

[Basil Ransom]

I successfully used this while macking a chick today - even referenced the study and then asked her position on gay marriage. She was in fact a hardcore Christian. I trolled her gently, and then bailed.

[Dusty]

[Parlay44]

Anytime a penis enters an asshole or a mouth it's never about love. It's about perversion or some fetish. I agree with this study.

[Yatagan]

(10-08-2014 05:21 PM)Jack198 Wrote:  

Why do people like that even bother going through the motions of any Abrahamic religion if they're going to disregard it all? Total waste of time and oxygen.

I knew a German chick that was "Christian" and was pretty liberal(pro-gay marriage and everything) and was pursuing theology in uni, not surprisingly she later on dropped the faith.

I don't see the point of them even pretending to be christians. At most they're just liberals who believe in god.

[Simian]

The secret in evangelical churches in the American south.

[Parlay44]

(10-12-2014 03:40 PM)Seboist Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 05:21 PM)Jack198 Wrote:  

Why do people like that even bother going through the motions of any Abrahamic religion if they're going to disregard it all? Total waste of time and oxygen.

I knew a German chick that was "Christian" and was pretty liberal(pro-gay marriage and everything) and was pursuing theology in uni, not surprisingly she later on dropped the faith.

I don't see the point of them even pretending to be christians. At most they're just liberals who believe in god.

Uhh Jesus was the definition of liberal. He rebelled against the "conservative" church.
Modern Christians tend to forget that. To be a conservative Christian is a paradox.

[Mage]

You guys should understand the simple truth that there are no christians who support gay marriage. Those who claim to be christians and pro sodomite marriage are false flag christians or simply morons who use terms they have no idea about to create a facade of a personality that they lack,

[Mage]

(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Uhh Jesus was the definition of liberal. He rebelled against the "conservative" church.
Modern Christians tend to forget that. To be a conservative Christian is a paradox.

Do you realize that you try to analyze two global faiths (Judaism and Christianity) who each are multiple millenia old trough your Americain prism of "liberal vs. conservative" worldview which is very lockal and has a lifespan like a century or two at best?

You are a very well brainwashed. I got news for you - not everything in this world can be classified as liberal or conservative. This is just how you have been trained to view and analyze things by your government since your birth. Between these two narrow terms "liberal" and "conservative" has your mind been framed.

Take the red pill dude.

[jayyrod1]

Judaism is the OG of conservative religion based on the bible.

Its bigger than that however... listen to Mage.

[Parlay44]

(10-12-2014 04:28 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Uhh Jesus was the definition of liberal. He rebelled against the "conservative" church.
Modern Christians tend to forget that. To be a conservative Christian is a paradox.

Do you realize that you try to analyze two global faiths (Judaism and Christianity) who each are multiple millenia old trough your Americain prism of "liberal vs. conservative" worldview which is very lockal and has a lifespan like a century or two at best?

You are a very well brainwashed. I got news for you - not everything in this world can be classified as liberal or conservative. This is just how you have been trained to view and analyze things by your government since your birth. Between these two narrow terms "liberal" and "conservative" has your mind been framed.

Take the red pill dude.

Ohh please. I'm far from brainwashed. If I use terms like liberal or conservative it's because it's common modern language that everyone can relate to. I'm not going to speak in biblical terms because we don't live in biblical times. I do more to resist the brainwashing of religions and government than most people here I bet.

And what country are you from? Probably some pissant little 3rd world shithole that no one has heard of or gives two shits about. And people can trash America all they like but they all want to come here because they can earn a living doing something other than being a pig farmer like in their home country.

[Mage]

(10-12-2014 07:16 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 04:28 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Uhh Jesus was the definition of liberal. He rebelled against the "conservative" church.
Modern Christians tend to forget that. To be a conservative Christian is a paradox.

Do you realize that you try to analyze two global faiths (Judaism and Christianity) who each are multiple millenia old trough your Americain prism of "liberal vs. conservative" worldview which is very lockal and has a lifespan like a century or two at best?

You are a very well brainwashed. I got news for you - not everything in this world can be classified as liberal or conservative. This is just how you have been trained to view and analyze things by your government since your birth. Between these two narrow terms "liberal" and "conservative" has your mind been framed.

Take the red pill dude.

Ohh please. I'm far from brainwashed. If I use terms like liberal or conservative it's because it's common modern language that everyone can relate to. I'm not going to speak in biblical terms because we don't live in biblical times. I do more to resist the brainwashing of religions and government than most people here I bet.

And what country are you from? Probably some pissant little 3rd world shithole that no one has heard of or gives two shits about. And people can trash America all they like but they all want to come here because they can earn a living doing something other than being a pig farmer like in their home country.

So is your view on the world that it is either USA or 3rd world shithole right after it's borders? Have you been abroad? Canada and UK doesn't count.

Sorry, man I didn't meant to offend you but you somehow tend to express propaganda tropes no matter what you say.

I am not hating on America, just recognizing some propaganda drilled points in your analysis of things. Evey country and religion has it's own flavor of brainwashing to control citizens/believers, mine has mine and your has yours. I look at it philosophically and don't waste time hating, just recognizing things.

[TigerMandingo]

(10-12-2014 07:16 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

And what country are you from? Probably some pissant little 3rd world shithole that no one has heard of or gives two shits about. And people can trash America all they like but they all want to come here because they can earn a living doing something other than being a pig farmer like in their home country.

What's wrong with pig farmers? It's quite a noble undertaking. 20 bucks says a pig farmer is more masculine, is happier, and lives a more fulfilled life than some low-level financial advisor in Toronto who's married to a fat hog and busting out 80 hrs a week.

[Beyond Borders]

(10-13-2014 11:33 AM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 07:16 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

And what country are you from? Probably some pissant little 3rd world shithole that no one has heard of or gives two shits about. And people can trash America all they like but they all want to come here because they can earn a living doing something other than being a pig farmer like in their home country.

What's wrong with pig farmers? It's quite a noble undertaking. 20 bucks says a pig farmer is more masculine, is happier, and lives a more fulfilled life than some low-level financial advisor in Toronto who's married to a fat hog and busting out 80 hrs a week.

And either way they're both tending pigs.

[WalterBlack]

The thing about Christian girls is this: Why and how Christian are they? Are they Christian because:

A-They were raised that way and stuck to their beliefs?
B-They were raised that way, went through a slut period, felt bad and then went back to Jesus?
C-They converted later in life?
D-They were raised in it, and still go to church with family members and friends, but they have their doubts.

I tell Christian girls that know about Jesus and Christianity, and I did school prayer and bible study (This is true, because I’m from UK and UK is officially a Christian country…even though in reality Christianity is almost dead in UK). This lets them open up a bit. After that I never bring up religion with them, hang out a few times and get the bang.

In my experience B & D are the easiest to bang. C's are doable but difficult, and forget about As

Regarding the whole pro-gay thing, a couple of years ago I contacted a divorced woman who was a pastor’s granddaughter from online. Before I met her in person she told me that she was bi-curious. I managed to get her straight to my place for a bang, and she came over a few times after that. I tried to set her up for her first lesbian experience with another woman I had banged before, but she chickened out.

Many American “Christian” women are full of shit and will open their legs if you game them well enough. They’re usually also suprisingly ignorant about religion.

[The Beast1]

(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 03:40 PM)Seboist Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 05:21 PM)Jack198 Wrote:  

Why do people like that even bother going through the motions of any Abrahamic religion if they're going to disregard it all? Total waste of time and oxygen.

I knew a German chick that was "Christian" and was pretty liberal(pro-gay marriage and everything) and was pursuing theology in uni, not surprisingly she later on dropped the faith.

I don't see the point of them even pretending to be christians. At most they're just liberals who believe in god.

Uhh Jesus was the definition of liberal. He rebelled against the "conservative" church.
Modern Christians tend to forget that. To be a conservative Christian is a paradox.

Parlay, I see what you're trying to convey here but it's a bit too simplistic in describing why Jesus came. Through the modern lens, it would appear that is the case however according to the bible Jesus came to fulfill a prophecy that God had promised to his chosen people (the Jews). It just so happened that everyone else could also be saved for their sins.

As for modern Christians also being for gay marriage, you have to look at it in the context of when it was written. The bible talks of three different types of "death". The obvious medical reasoning (your dead), a spiritual death, and the death of a family bloodline.

Remember, the Jews were for thousands of years a nomadic tribe. If two men in a tribe of 150 people decided to go gay, there's two less men that will be willing and wanting to father children. This spells the end of the tribe. The death of a family tree.

Ironically, it can be argued that homosexual behavior does lead to death in terms of the death of a family blood line, death by means of diseases (HIV,STDs,etc), and a less obviously painful death by means of a spiritual one (I used to be friends with a gay guy that my gut told me was a toxic individual. We're no longer friends).

However, the only solution the bible gives us is love one another and accept Jesus as our savior.

In Jesus' time, he hung out with tax collectors, merchants, the mentally ill, and the sick.

A proper Christian would know that being in a post sexual revolution world, homosexuality has been let out of "pandora's box". No amount of shaming is going to fix that. However, the lesson learned here is for the gays to "love their partner" in a 100% monogamous relationship. Open relationships leave the more submission individual in the relationship vulnerable which isn't loving at all.

TL;DR proper Christians (and there aren't a lot) would tell a gay man the consequences of what he is doing while suggesting the "loving" solution by maintaining a monogamous "till death" relationship.

[Basil Ransom]

"Remember, the Jews were for thousands of years a nomadic tribe."

False. Israelites wandered in the desert for 40 years, but otherwise were not nomads at all. They were slaves and kings, merchants and citizens. Bedouins are nomads, the Israelites have not been. There's a big difference between being spread out around the world and being a nomad. Jews are the former, as are, say, the Greeks and Armenians.

[The Beast1]

(10-13-2014 01:27 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

"Remember, the Jews were for thousands of years a nomadic tribe."

False. Israelites wandered in the desert for 40 years, but otherwise were not nomads at all. They were slaves and kings, merchants and citizens. Bedouins are nomads, the Israelites have not been. There's a big difference between being spread out around the world and being a nomad. Jews are the former, as are, say, the Greeks and Armenians.

Sorry Basil, but you're wrong. The Jews were in fact nomadic sheep herders who moved all along the middle east for many years. They eventually do in fact settle and make "kingdoms" like you describe but during the many years they keep trying to form a Jewish kingdom they would get sacked by outside powers. Jeruselum was at one point completely destroyed and the Jews became slaves of Babylonians.

There also isn't any proof of the exodus ever occurring either. No archeological record exists and the ancient records of the Egyptians leave no mention of a large labor crisis occurring from the movement of several million people. This is much more fascinating though because there are stories about a people who became rulers of Egypt and ended up destroying the government and Egyptian culture. That's a whole different discussion and thread.

Fun reading materials: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/33_nomadic.html
http://www.academia.edu/1059818/Israel_a..._Palestine
http://www.bibleandscience.com/archaeology/exodus.htm