Quote: (10-09-2014 03:17 PM)MrXY Wrote:
Quote: (10-09-2014 09:30 AM)Deluge Wrote:
Kissing at the bar makes them less likely to come back to your place, for the very reasons Tuth described in his recipe, it triggers anti-slut defense. If you haven't kissed them yet she can more easily rationalize that she's not just going back to your place to fuck. Experiment with both and you'll realize just how stark the difference is. I don't know anyone whose tried out Tuth's method and then gone back to kissing at the venue.
I have tried both ways, and kissing works much better for me than not kissing, and my first date fuck close rate is good- 30-40% last few years.
The difference may be though, that I never invite girls to my place on the first date, or usually, ever. I want them to invite me to theirs.
That is a psychologically different situation entirely. Risk of ASD is much lower because I am not trying to push them into anything; I am using my game skills to make her start thinking of ways she can get alone with me.
But women are more passive in nature, so I can't just sit and talk and expect her to take action. I have to get her in a physiologically heightened and sexually aroused state that gives her the drive to want to resolve it. She has to feel a high degree of urgency to get penetrated (at least subconsciously) to invite a man she doesn't know to her home.
Without this state of urgency, she will be in the "maybe on the second date" mode, so not kissing doesn't work for me.
@MrXY I really respect your knowledge and experience, would you be willing to break down your first date routine (if you haven't already) and how you get women to invite you home in maybe a separate post? I've been on more first dates than I could ever count, most from online, and I can only recall two women who ever invited me back to their places on the first date. I would love to be able to take my game to that level consistently.
