[Samseau]

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There is no such thing as lesbianism. Women on women sex is a normal part of heterosexual sex. That's why women who hate men are a relatively recent phenomenon and why they look and act deviant. If lesbianism was real, you would see two things.... no history of sex with men, and normal women/women relationships where the people involved are just like everyone else in all ways. They wouldn't hate men, either. They'd be indifferent. You see the exact opposite in the lesbian community... long history of sex with men, abnormal/no relationships, intense hatred of men, and most of all, bizarre, stereotypical behavior that you can use to identify them. This last wouldn't be that big of a deal if it wasn't bizarre. For example, many "lesbians" like sports. That's a normal type of thing to be associated with a group of people. But, many more "lesbians" practice witchcraft (and live an accompanying delusional lifestyle). That's a decidedly abnormal thing to be associated with a group. It let's you know they aren't legitimate, as does the entire pattern with them, even the fact that there is a pattern.

http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2010/10/bone...y-men.html

[MrXY]

Old joke: What's the difference between a straight girl and a bi girl?

Answer: three strawberry daiquiris

There's truth in that; "soft " situational bisexuality is very common among females. There's a theory which says that it evolved as a means of strengthening group bonds among the females because the female group was so important a woman's survival and child rearing in paleo times.

I've heard many stories about girls making out with friends, lesbian sex happening at teenage sleepovers, college dorm lesbo relationships, LUGS, (lesbian until graduation), girls meeting one particular girl who was sexually aggressive and giving in to her, bi sex as part of threesomes, on and on.

Here's a typical one I was told a couple of weeks ago by a girl I recently started banging. A few years ago she met a Filipino girl through mutual friends and they hung out occasionally through the group. Then the girl invited my girl to go out one night and have drinks, just the two. After a few drinks they were sitting, talking and laughing, and the girl put her hand on my girls thigh. Things escalated and they ended up going home and having sex. They had sex multiple times after that. My girl said she's not bi and that was her first time (who knows if true). She said she enjoyed it and didn't regret it. That's pretty typical of how it happens.

Look at the thread posted here yesterday about the top searches on Pornhub, many of women's top searches terms are lesbian themed. I've known many straight women who watch a lot of lesbian porn. That study mentioned by Carlos100 is a good one and very telling because its objective and scientific. Pretty sure Roissy discussed it before. Women are turned on by a much wider range of sexuality than men are, even though they will deny it.

But I don't believe that any of this reduces the sexual availability of women in the dating market. These soft bi girls are still male oriented; their bi encounters are just a side dish

[bacardi123]

Thanks for the replies guys...

Looks as if this thread won't fade out as easily as i thought....so anyway, i'd want to write a couple of more things:

Most of the replies are kinda missing the main point of this thread: It's not about "all girls are lez, we're doomed" types of complaints, it's about the interesting fact that sexual orientation varies even by country.

Here...I am gonna be completely honest with an online experiment that I conducted many years ago, around 2007-2008 during the "myspace era". So...I setup back then a fake profile of a "hot girl" (i mean come on who hasn't!...ok it's probably just me lol . So using this "hot girl" fake profile I started randomly messeging say 100-150 girls from the US who were "straight" according to their profiles. Results?? One out of three replied and was flirty, with most of them the chat soon escalated to "wish you were here now", "mmmm baby" lol...you get the idea...

Then I attempted the same pervy experiment with PMs on Russian girls and Bulgarian girls (i speak both languages...). The results were more like: "piss of lesbian!", "sorry i am straight...", type of answers.

And...one last thing: according to myspace back then the amount of girls who say they're bi on their profiles from the US was over 30% while the same number for some eastern euro countries was about 7%. Random difference? Don't think so.
So yeah i think i said everything i needed in this thread thuogh i am sure various men have different opinions on the topic.

[Akula]

(10-03-2014 01:22 PM)bacardi123 Wrote:  

Thanks for the replies guys...

Looks as if this thread won't fade out as easily as i thought....so anyway, i'd want to write a couple of more things:

Most of the replies are kinda missing the main point of this thread: It's not about "all girls are lez, we're doomed" types of complaints, it's about the interesting fact that sexual orientation varies even by country.

Here...I am gonna be completely honest with an online experiment that I conducted many years ago, around 2007-2008 during the "myspace era". So...I setup back then a fake profile of a "hot girl" (i mean come on who hasn't!...ok it's probably just me lol . So using this "hot girl" fake profile I started randomly messeging say 100-150 girls from the US who were "straight" according to their profiles. Results?? One out of three replied and was flirty, with most of them the chat soon escalated to "wish you were here now", "mmmm baby" lol...you get the idea...

Then I attempted the same pervy experiment with PMs on Russian girls and Bulgarian girls (i speak both languages...). The results were more like: "piss of lesbian!", "sorry i am straight...", type of answers.

And...one last thing: according to myspace back then the amount of girls who say they're bi on their profiles from the US was over 30% while the same number for some eastern euro countries was about 7%. Random difference? Don't think so.
So yeah i think i said everything i needed in this thread thuogh i am sure various men have different opinions on the topic.

Interesting.

Porn is certainly a cause here I think given how many girls watch porn and how that influences them. Also the universities are basically pushing sexual experimentation on women and men these days, plus telling college-aged girls that men are basically evil rape machines too (so girls are ok and 'safer' I guess).

I think one other big thing is the amount of fatties and/or unattractive girls who get 'left out' and end up 'experimenting' due to no real men out there that meet their (incredibly unattainable) standards who are willing to bang them. So since their pie in the sky ideal guys won't ever get with them maybe they gravitate towards 'experimentation' and 'you go girl' etc. even if they are essentially straight.

[kaotic]

Eventually the "bi-girls" movement will be full on lesbians, which pulls from our pool of women to date.

It's a bad thing because thirst will get higher and pedastalization ever more increasing.

The good is it helps filters what women are really in it for men.


This is a rough idea, but I can see this happening.

[machine]

It is true that most western girls are Lesbian or Bisexual these days. It didn't used to be that way in past decades though. Most girls in past decades were straight.

1. There is a scientific reason why people are born Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual.
2. People do not choose to be gay, lesbian or bisexual (they're born that way).
3. Girls don't magically "turn gay" when they are drunk.
4. Statistically only 3% of people should be naturally born that way.

There is a certain "something" that is causing a large majority of people (around the world) to be born gay, lesbian and bisexual these days.
Go to any college town in the United States, there's very few straight girls left. Same thing with guys, most are either gay or very feminine.

There is a direct reason why most girls are straight in Eastern Europe compared to countries like the USA, it's because "something" is less common in EE.
The "something" that is causing this has been hiding in plain sight for decades now (it's man made) but very few people aside from myself have noticed.

I will be putting up a website with my findings in the near future explaining what that "something" is.



Think about this scenario.

Lung Cancer has always been naturally occurring in people, however when man made cigarettes were created, lung cancer rates skyrocketed.

3% of people have always been born Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual, but when the "something" was created, rates of people being born Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual have skyrocketed.

The "something" that was created decades ago is emulating the natural process of how/why people are born Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual.
The extremely high number of Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual people in the USA these days is due to the "something".

Most USA girls in past decades were straight but now most are Lesbian or Bisexual.
The extreme change over a period of a few decades was due to the "something" causing them to be born that way.


Definition of Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual,

Gay - Guy was born with a female brain.
Lesbian - Girl was born with a male brain.
Bisexual - Person was born with a mixed brain.

[Lizard King]

(10-02-2014 08:51 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

You guys don't understand what I am saying.

1. From a relationship point of view. They are building relationships with girls NOT guys.
2. They are only using guys to go out with in public and to have a superficial relationship with. Because they don't want to think of themselves as lesbians.
3. They are usually not that good in bed for guys because they are not that turned on by them. Even if they are having a threesome it's usually just to please the guy.

The real emotional transaction is happening between the girls not you and them. The guy is just an intelligent sex toy and to break the monotony.

Astute observation. I see it frequently.

[Nomad77]

@machine So what is your "something"?

[machine]

(10-03-2014 11:07 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

@machine So what is your "something"?

I will be putting up a website in the near future explaining what that "something" is and how/why it is causing so many people to be born Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual. I'll introduce the website on this forum when it's ready, it's something that every guy on this forum should read.

[machine]

(12-24-2011 09:22 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Whenever the topic homosexuality comes up with foreign girls i tell them, "Sometimes it feels like most american guys are gay. They're everywhere, holding hands and kissing and stuff. Your country has much less gays."

Girl: "Isn't that good then? More girls for you."

Me: "A lot of girls are gay too."

It really does feel like America has more gays as a percentage of its population than anywhere else i've been, even Denmark.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

No. Most attention Western girls are attention whores.

[Akula]

(10-04-2014 01:44 AM)machine Wrote:  

(10-03-2014 11:07 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

@machine So what is your "something"?

I will be putting up a website in the near future explaining what that "something" is and how/why it is causing so many people to be born Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual. I'll introduce the website on this forum when it's ready, it's something that every guy on this forum should read.

I'm assuming this is something in the food chain and/or the overmedication of society in the US?

[AnonymousBosch]

(10-04-2014 02:21 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

No. Most attention Western girls are attention whores.

Nailed it.

[Distant Light]

(10-03-2014 01:22 PM)bacardi123 Wrote:  

Thanks for the replies guys...

Looks as if this thread won't fade out as easily as i thought....so anyway, i'd want to write a couple of more things:

Most of the replies are kinda missing the main point of this thread: It's not about "all girls are lez, we're doomed" types of complaints, it's about the interesting fact that sexual orientation varies even by country.

Here...I am gonna be completely honest with an online experiment that I conducted many years ago, around 2007-2008 during the "myspace era". So...I setup back then a fake profile of a "hot girl" (i mean come on who hasn't!...ok it's probably just me lol . So using this "hot girl" fake profile I started randomly messeging say 100-150 girls from the US who were "straight" according to their profiles. Results?? One out of three replied and was flirty, with most of them the chat soon escalated to "wish you were here now", "mmmm baby" lol...you get the idea...

Then I attempted the same pervy experiment with PMs on Russian girls and Bulgarian girls (i speak both languages...). The results were more like: "piss of lesbian!", "sorry i am straight...", type of answers.

And...one last thing: according to myspace back then the amount of girls who say they're bi on their profiles from the US was over 30% while the same number for some eastern euro countries was about 7%. Random difference? Don't think so.
So yeah i think i said everything i needed in this thread thuogh i am sure various men have different opinions on the topic.

While I've never been to any of those countries...

Most of the chicks I've met were "euro girls", I don't hang around many american chicks BUT I know what everyone is talking about with chicks slapping their friends ass, tits or kissing.

I've seen 2 polish fashion models making out, then making out with one of my boys. Thing is, MOST CHICKS aren't going to say they are "bi" because like other poster said to them it doesn't count.

This actually reminds me of a european model I knew who not only was down for 3somes BUT I also learnt a tranny that I know, she had sex with him.

As for the issue with all this and straight men in relationships, most men are unfavorable because THEY ARE THIRSTY. However from time to time women are dying and craving DICK.

I wish i could find this 1940s sexuality book I had read BUT it fits the description to a T as to why women love having gay guy friends and why women end up adapting to bi-sexual-like ways.

It's too much for me to get into but all I know across the board, when I used to joke that I only have 3somes and orgies MAJORITY of women were eager to do it.

Also look at all the sex parties in germany, UK, hungary, etc...

Regardless, I'm glad how things are turning out, the only people having major affects are the straight men who don't "get it". Women still love the feeling of being filled by a guy with dick. however, most men, that's all they're good for.

[AnonymousBosch]

(10-03-2014 01:22 PM)bacardi123 Wrote:  

Here...I am gonna be completely honest with an online experiment that I conducted many years ago, around 2007-2008 during the "myspace era". So...I setup back then a fake profile of a "hot girl" (i mean come on who hasn't!...ok it's probably just me lol . So using this "hot girl" fake profile I started randomly messeging say 100-150 girls from the US who were "straight" according to their profiles. Results?? One out of three replied and was flirty, with most of them the chat soon escalated to "wish you were here now", "mmmm baby" lol...you get the idea...

It's just as likely you had cybersex with a bunch of guys pretending to be girls doing the exact same thing.

[Brian Shima]

It's simply in style to be gay or bi. How many girls are bi without announcing it? None, they cant

[andesmountaincat]

I'm not sure if most Western girls are gay or bi, but there has definitely been an uptrend over the past decade or so. I put it down to a few things:

1. Attention whoring and increasing SMV. Women know that a lot of man have the threesome fantasy, ergo, her SMV increases in the eyes of many men. Whether another woman turns her on is secondary.

2. Online. Finding another woman to experiment with in one's social circle would have been risky prior to online dating, as word could have easily got around in one's social circle and had a negative impact especially if the woman approached wasn't gay/bi and thought it was deviant behaviour. Online dating removes the unknown as sexual orientation is listed and allows women to approach without that fear. It's also more a prize: women will still get hundreds of messages from men and couples, but a message from an (attractive) gay or bisexual woman will be much rarer.

3. Media influence. Remember when Britney Spears and Madonna kissed at the Grammys? (I think it was the Grammys) Most young women don't know how to forge their own path in life and mimic celebrities instead.

4. It's 'safer'. Any man a woman considers to be below her SMV is a creepy potential rapist. Heaven forbid that she actually meet a new and interesting guy when she can 'experiment' with her friends.

5. It's 'progressive'. Sex with the same gender is completely normal and anyone who says it isn't is a bigot. But most women who have experimented with their own gender wouldn't dream of being with a man who had fucked another guy, because that's ewww!!!

[DChambers]

I recall my mother saying she would kiss her best friend in bars and clubs to turn guys on back in the 80's. I don't think there are actually more lesbians than there used to be, it is just done for the attention it brings.