[OkStudies]

There's been a noticeable uptick in IRT posts jamming up the Red Pill reddit. Most of them in the last 7 days, and with greater frequency. It's starting to get annoying as fuck as I log in and see this shit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comme...ou_are_an/

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comme...ority_red/

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comme...t_to_have/

Any ideas why?

[kbell]

I wonder if that's the original.

[Travesty]

Easy.

2 of these cats and maybe the third live in the Bay Area and they want white women of course.

Enough said. It is crammed with blue pill guys of all types with too much $ and sad game. A terrible combination.

I'm white, just crusing this board if I was Indian I would already know to check out parts of Europe (Scandanavia, EE) where brown guys get more love, and I would try to get the fuck out of the Bay Area to LA, NYC, or abroad asap.

That's is where the odds are best.

These guys are smart they just don't have the playbook.

Someone needs to make an American IRT going after white pussy flow chart mapping all this.

Get rid of accent
Hygiene
Dress fashionable
Work out

NEXT

Move to NYC or LA (Montreal maybe if you need to stay in NA). The Bay Area is a no-no.

NEXT

Travel to parts of EE and Scandanavia where you get love.

NEXT

Look down at other IRTs with pity and compassion.

[Slim Shady]

Here we go again...

[OkStudies]

(09-24-2014 09:01 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Easy.

2 of these cats and maybe the third live in the Bay Area and they want white women of course.

Yeah, the even sadder thing is they are obsessed over *AMERICAN* white girls. What's with that?

I live in the Bay Area and the main minority you see with white girls are either black dudes or light-skinned Hispanics. Not sure why as it is a liberal area but that's what I see. But why the obsession? They are not really missing out on anything.

[Faust]

What is the deal with IRTs?
Is there something wrong with indian girls that indian guys don't want them?
I've never dated an indian chick, but I've seen quite a few and they can look HOT.
And I knew a bunch in school and their personalities were fine, if a bit bookish.
Is there something I'm missing that makes some of their men so eager to date outside their own race? Is it just like how nerdy white guys fantasize about having a Japanese girlfriend?

[Travesty]

White girls have the highest SMV in the US and the world. Money and history have a lot to do with this.

White girls also can look the most diverse from each other. Blonde, redhead, brunette, black hair, curly, wavy, straight hair, more variations in facial structure, some tan, some don't, freckles, more variations in height, light blue eyes, grey eyes, deep blue eyes, green eyes, hazel eyes, light brown eyes, deep brown eyes etc.

Of course other races also have some of these variations but often much rarer and often times due to a recent and more rare mixing with another race (often white).

When you split white chicks apart into all these smaller sub-category combinations they become quite rare worldwide compared to the general looks of every other race of woman.

Not a PC opinion but I believe it is true and why their SMV is so high out of rarity and it will stay this way until there are affordable genetic modifications for physical features.

[El Chinito loco]

(09-24-2014 09:22 PM)Faust Wrote:  

What is the deal with IRTs?
Is there something wrong with indian girls that indian guys don't want them?

Is there something I'm missing that makes some of their men so eager to date outside their own race?

It's not really similar to how weeboos fantasize about Japanese girls. That is due to incredible thirst combined with internet porn and pop culture fetishism of anime.

The IRT phenomenon seems to have a lot of caste roots. Indians are raised with beta provider beliefs and they are raised to view whites as a higher caste. Certain men get frustrated and become mental when they followed all the blue pill beta cultural beliefs and yet they get rejected.

A lot of NE Asian culture is similar in some ways. There's a big blue pill cultural streak that emphasizes beta provider roles. This is a recipe for disaster in the western world and one reason why so many asians/indians end up as emasculated betas.

[El Chinito loco]

(09-24-2014 09:26 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

White girls have the highest SMV in the US and the world. Money and history have a lot to do with this.

Not a PC opinion but I believe it is true and why their SMV is so high out of rarity and it will stay this way until there are affordable genetic modifications for physical features.

I don't believe this is true. If white girl SMV was so high then even an ugly white girl in Asia should theoretically be punching way above her weight. In reality she's ignored for the most part. Even above average girls don't get much attention. If you're talking 7+ types then it's another story but then again all attractive girls have good SMV.

[Travesty]

Take a worldwide poll of men (not just this board):

You can bang a variation of ten different 7+s of any race what race would you pick to bang?

I would bet white women would win a landslide. Not even close.

And I go after women of all races. I have no horse in the race.

[TheSlayer]

(09-24-2014 09:22 PM)Faust Wrote:  

What is the deal with IRTs?
Is there something wrong with indian girls that indian guys don't want them?
I've never dated an indian chick, but I've seen quite a few and they can look HOT.
And I knew a bunch in school and their personalities were fine, if a bit bookish.
Is there something I'm missing that makes some of their men so eager to date outside their own race? Is it just like how nerdy white guys fantasize about having a Japanese girlfriend?

What many don't understand is that actual "IRTs" who race troll online have no game and can't even date Indian chicks. If you don't have game you are going to struggle with chicks of your own race as well (something that's universally true for most men in the West). Indian chicks in the West and especially good looking ones have a bit of princess complex and are not going to date extremely beta Indian men with no game.

[L M McCoy]

For Indians, getting a white girl (especially if she's blonde and has light eyes) is a massive DHV.

Indians are chill guys, the problem is that they aren't always high on a girls "to do" list.

[Agastya]

I'd say the Bay is awful for Indian dudes if you're only targeting the blonde sorority type white girls, but even then I knew plenty of Indian dudes who dated those types in high school. If you're a decent Indian dude, then Indian girls are cake, and there are plenty of Asian girls here who've also banged or dated Indian guys due to sheer proximity. The true problem with the Bay isn't racism or bitch shields; it's the fact that most of it consists of suburban sprawl, and public transport isn't very good. Unless you have a centrally located apartment in San Jose, logistics in the Valley are unilaterally terrible; the fact that most girls live with their parents is a sizeable cockblock, and the fact that I myself stay with my parents is a bigger one. Logistics might be good for students dorming in San Jose State or Santa Clara University, but for the average Joe, the vibe and layout of the Bay Area are massive cockblocks in and of themselves.

Also, Indian guys don't innately dislike Indian girls. I believe that everyone is most attracted to people of their own race; while there are plenty of Indian girls who aren't attractive, there's a decent number who are, especially around college age. Real-life IRT's pedestalize white girls because they're universally held to be the standard of attractiveness. They'll excuse their inability to pull by saying things like "oh, that girl's ugly as fuck" whenever you point out a non-white girl whose not an obvious 9/10. They've conditioned themselves to like white girls because they think it makes them seem less pathetic. Trust me, most Indian guys really like Indian girls most of all(myself included), and generally like other types of brown girls (Persians, Latinas, black girls) slightly less. The amount of Indian dudes who actually pull and still fetishize white girls isn't super high. If an Indian dude with game goes for white girls, it's because he actually likes them; if an IRT claims he only wants white girls, it's because he's trying to convince himself that other girls are beneath him, which gives a tiny, dirty boost of desperately needed confidence.

[Faust]

These are really interesting answers. Thanks guys!

[Aziz Nuts]

The Red Pill section of Reddit is a cesspool of autistic neckbeards and A Voice For Men washouts. No surprise it's an IRT hangout.

[bojangles]

The IRT thing is simple.

These indian guys can't get indian girls (viewed as more difficult)
So they want white girls (because you know white girls are easy - as indian society will tell you)

It's really just that ^. Thirsty for pussy makes the desperation worse.

[WestIndianArchie]

(09-24-2014 09:22 PM)Faust Wrote:  

What is the deal with IRTs?
Is there something wrong with indian girls that indian guys don't want them?

Vanilla Fever.

WIA

[Slim Shady]

Bojangles is spot on. One elaboration: Jim Jefferies said in his standup that he could never have sex with a man because he could never fuck something that he respects.

A lot of Indian guys, especially with closer ties to India, will view white girls as lowly, and complete sex objects. Now I know Americanized Indian girls to be some of the sluttiest out there - to the point of being revolting - but they go after white girls just because they have a preconceived notion that they are easy.

[Fighting888]

Here's the simplest explanation. Men troll when they're sexually frustrated and not getting laid. If Indian/Pak men troll more, it's because an absurdly high percentage of them are incel.

(09-25-2014 03:40 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

The IRT thing is simple.

These indian guys can't get indian girls (viewed as more difficult)
So they want white girls (because you know white girls are easy - as indian society will tell you)

So if Indian/Pak dudes can't get Indian/Pak women and can't get white women, then I suppose all the race trolling is just a way for them to vent their sexual frustration.

I've seen a lot of guys here compare lump East Asian and Indian/Pak dudes together because both races struggle to get white women, but honestly I feel that's a bit unfair. East Asian guys, generally, aren't into white women. Indian/Pak dudes are much into white women as the other minorities (black, Hispanic, Arab/Persian/Turk, Mediterannean Greek/Italians), but have a striking inability to get them. Indian/Pak girls often play much more hard to get with their men than East Asian girls. So I'd say that the level of sexual frustration is probably much higher among Indian/Pak guys than Asian men.... and that's actually reflected in the statistics. Indian subcontinental men have lower rates of chlamydia than Chinese/Asians in both the US and UK, which likely reflects lower rates of sexual activity.

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Bojangles is spot on. One elaboration: Jim Jefferies said in his standup that he could never have sex with a man because he could never fuck something that he respects.

Nah. The problem is that a lot of these Indian/Pak girls are mean and princessy as fuk, almost unapproachable. A lot of the Indian/Pak girls prefer white guys too. I'd guess that a lot of Indian/Pak guys are intimidated around their women and feel more eat ease around white girls just because white girls are nicer.

[TheSlayer]

(09-25-2014 01:49 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

So if Indian/Pak dudes can't get Indian/Pak women and can't get white women, then I suppose all the race trolling is just a way for them to vent their sexual frustration.

That's pretty much it. I have seen Indian guys with Indian girls and all of them are 'normal' dudes and would not be considered IRTs. An Indian guy complaining about white women online is not likely getting laid with Indian girls either. See my post above in this thread.

[Fighting888]

I agree that Indian/Pak girls are really tough on their own men. They're very selective about who they date and very picky with their own men. Indian girls have really bad attitude in general with their men and view their own men as omega to the extreme. Not even Asian girls are this harsh with their own guys. Being an Indian/Pak dude must be like the worst deal, as you're all around fuked with all races.

An Indian/Pak guy is going to really need to have his shit together (money, career, grades, dressing) just to have a LTR with an Indian/Pak chick. but it seems like this girls are at least somewhat more family oriented than the typical American girl, which works to the benefit of Indian dudes. I've seen a lot of successful Indian guys (doctors, MBAs) dating nice looking educated Indian girls, but you could tell the girls were high maintenance and bitchy.

[TheSlayer]

(09-25-2014 02:19 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

Being an Indian/Pak dude with no game or social intelligence must be like the worst deal, as you're all around fuked with all races.

Corrected.

It's the same as with any other guy. Being a social retard and a troll will get you nowhere with women but if you have your shit together and are trying to live life the RVF way you will have varying degrees of success based upon your ability, skill, experiences (of course race does play into that) but making blanket statements like you just made is not accurate.

[Agastya]

(09-25-2014 02:19 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

I agree that Indian/Pak girls are really tough on their own men. They're very selective about who they date and very picky with their own men.

Where are you from? I've lived in areas with relatively high Indian populations my entire life, and this hasn't been the case even once. Most Indian girls do admit that the average Indian dude is nothing to write home about, but this isn't really a bad thing for any Indian who has even marginal game or looks. I was at a largely Indian club party a couple months ago, and saw a decent number of extremely attractive Indian girls with fairly passable Indian guys. I've never heard of Indian girls generally disliking Indian guys. In my experience, Asian girls are far more guilty of despising their own men, but even this is highly overstated. Whenever I've met a decent-looking Asian or Indian guy with passable game, they've done well with women of their own race.

So I'm curious as to where this phenomenon of extremely picky Indian girls exists. I've never seen it in California. Yeah, the princess bitch types definitely exist, but I've met many more Indian girls who were generally sweet to me.

[bojangles]

(09-25-2014 02:30 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 02:19 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

I agree that Indian/Pak girls are really tough on their own men. They're very selective about who they date and very picky with their own men.

Where are you from? I've lived in areas with relatively high Indian populations my entire life, and this hasn't been the case even once. Most Indian girls do admit that the average Indian dude is nothing to write home about, but this isn't really a bad thing for any Indian who has even marginal game or looks. I was at a largely Indian club party a couple months ago, and saw a decent number of extremely attractive Indian girls with fairly passable Indian guys. I've never heard of Indian girls generally disliking Indian guys. In my experience, Asian girls are far more guilty of despising their own men, but even this is highly overstated. Whenever I've met a decent-looking Asian or Indian guy with passable game, they've done well with women of their own race.

So I'm curious as to where this phenomenon of extremely picky Indian girls exists. I've never seen it in California. Yeah, the princess bitch types definitely exist, but I've met many more Indian girls who were generally sweet to me.

I don't see it in the UK either, Indian girls are more likely to get with indian guys more than anything. The ugly ones do get with Pakistani guys sometimes but thats because no one wants them

[Fighting888]

(09-25-2014 02:25 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 02:19 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

Being an Indian/Pak dude with no game or social intelligence must be like the worst deal, as you're all around fuked with all races.

Corrected.

It's the same as with any other guy. Being a social retard and a troll will get you nowhere with women but if you have your shit together and are trying to live life the RVF way you will have varying degrees of success based upon your ability, skill, experiences (of course race does play into that) but making blanket statements like you just made is not accurate.

Well that's true. A guy with game and social intelligence will always do well. I was referring to the huge mass of guys who troll forums like RVF, Redditt, Forum.bodybuilding, UK student forums. Not guys like Jay Sean or Kal Penn, who are obvious exceptions.

I was also referring to the tendency of Indian/Pak girls to disparage their own men, which makes the situation that much worse.

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Where are you from? I've lived in areas with relatively high Indian populations my entire life, and this hasn't been the case even once. Most Indian girls do admit that the average Indian dude is nothing to write home about, but this isn't really a bad thing for any Indian who has even marginal game or looks. I was at a largely Indian club party a couple months ago, and saw a decent number of extremely attractive Indian girls with fairly passable Indian guys. I've never heard of Indian girls generally disliking Indian guys. In my experience, Asian girls are far more guilty of despising their own men, but even this is highly overstated. Whenever I've met a decent-looking Asian or Indian guy with passable game, they've done well with women of their own race.

So I'm curious as to where this phenomenon of extremely picky Indian girls exists. I've never seen it in California. Yeah, the princess bitch types definitely exist, but I've met many more Indian girls who were generally sweet to me.

I used to post a lot on forum.bodybuilding.com

The forum always had topics like this. Non-stop bitching by Indian/Pak dudes about their women, in addition to bitching about white women.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=157460473

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Indian girls are mean as phuck (srs)

Was at a party my Indian friend hosted, and there were quite some hbb's.
Music was good, beer was good evening was going well had a great time.

Spotted a 5/10 and she was just sitting alone, so i offered her a drink.
She took the drink but didn't say a thing, not even thank you.

So i started some small talk and after like 10-20 seconds she just stood up and threw the drink in my face and started yelling bs about how i dared to hit on her.
I wanted to slap her right in the face but Indians are massive wk's so i would be outnumbered 100 vs 1.
Literally everyone was staring at me and she made remarks about my face.

I bolted away and felt like chit all week.
I mean just because i'm a bit ugly doesn't mean you can treat me like a damn animal.

Misc was right facial aesthetics are everything, phuck confidence.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=141863821

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Indian girls are the MOST insecure girls out there

BRB hot indian girls think they are too good for anyone in the world
BRB above average indian girls think they are too good for anyone in the world
BRB average indian girls think they are too good for anyone in the world
BRB bellow average girls are insecure about their looks and will not talk to you
BRB Ugly girls are ugly as fuk that you cant even look at them



and this isn't even about going out / dating.. even being friends, they will PICK who they want to be friends with cos they think literally every guy out there is gonna be hitting on them lol

True story.

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=246432

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i like white girls

- less drama
- cleaner
- nicer hair
- don't smell (cleaner)
- have a hot accent
- hot eyes
- are not dark lol so there pussy dont look like a black hole
- don't piss you off

there just so much better then desi girls

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Desi Men...when you become rich, please marry a white girl.

If you have money why would you ride a volkswagen when you can ride a mercedes?

Its the same principle when it comes to marrying.

Every man of distinction needs a trophy bride, and white girls make the best trophies.......

White women can provide:

1) Social Status
2) Beautiful Children
3) A Wonderful Homelife
3) Happiness

This is a proven truth.

Literally every Indian/Pak guy would say something about how mean Indian girls were to him.

If their girls were somewhat nice to them, I think IRTs would troll less.