[HungWeiLo]

Similar, but different, to the Forbes article already posted The Guardian author Jessica Valenti has suggested that the best way to control "rape culture" on campus is to ban fraternities.

http://www.bing.com/r/2/BB5vlnZ?a=1&m=EN-US

I take much offense to the suggestion that fraternities are the root of any suggested "rape culture" on any particular campus. As a fraternity man myself, the idea of any of the chapters on my campus doing something like that was and is out and out absurd. I'm not saying I'm blaming the victim, because I'm not, but my solution to this "problem" if it is one at all, is why do women, who are inundated with supposed fact about fraternities and what they may or may not do to you continue to frequent their parties and functions. Let alone join sororities who encourage their sisters to sleep with guys from certain chapters.

This entire movement of liberals, "progressive" women, betas, and the like trying to drag the rest of the world (a silent majority no doubt) down to their definition of "equality" instead of promoting ways to raise themselves up and embrace an definition of equality as one of equality of opportunities instead of outcomes is the destruction of the country.

The interesting outcome of all of this is that what's old will be new again. My prediction is that fraternities, and men's clubs in general will start go underground and bring back the speakeasy and gentleman's clubs of yesterday. Providing a place for men to be men, and for college men to really develop themselves in a red pill/enlightened way

[kbell]

Equality can only sort of come about if everybody is dragged down to the lowest common denominator. However someone will always end up on top.

[Kabal]

As with many anti-male maneuvers, banning fraternities would net-net hurt women.

Without fraternities to emulate and/or leech off of when it comes to organizational structure, community service, campus programming, social events, and future career-orientation, sororities are but another rudderless group of slam-pieces who pass their time prancing around in high heels and taking pictures of themselves.

And across colleges, who are the most consistently beloved groups of men, the ones girls (girls in general, not just sororistutes) fuck the most?

Athletes and... fraternity guys.

Democracy has spoken: Girls vote and reveal their preferences with the only thing they have that counts--their pussies.

[Collide]

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traditionally African American frats, gender-inclusive frats and multicultural frats are not as threatening as those populated by mostly-white, economically-entitled students

It took Valenti a whole 7 paragraphs before blaming white men. I'd say that's an improvement.


Here's some non-feminist bullshit to chew on.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dont-ban-...ies-2014-1

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Fraternity culture is actually less hostile to women

Contrary to the popular view of frat boys as, well, frat boys, a recent study from Loyola University New Orleans found that non-affiliated students actually had more threatening attitudes toward women. "Hypermasculinity — defined as 'an exaggerated adherence to traditional male gender role beliefs' — was generally a predictor of sexual aggression for all men except those in fraternities," Inside Higher Ed reports.

[polymath]

I was in a fraternity in college where I never once saw a rape accusation against a brother, let alone a situation where we thought a rape had been committed.

If anything, the girls who go to fraternities are thirstier than the guys are.

Realistically speaking, the most hateful sexist language and treatment I see these days is from feminists. How about we ban feminism instead?

[BadWolf]

Never went to university but it seems that school is taken WAAAAAY less seriously than in Asia. Why do fraternities exist? I'd beat my kids ass if he/she was spending any amount of time outside the library on my dollar.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

This actually has nothing to do with frats and everything to do with feminists and their allies trying to run yet more men off college campuses.

They've already done this by using Title IX to remove men's sports and take a way due process for men accused of sexual assault.

The feminist man-hating of the late '60s and early '70s has not gone away. The difference is that now instead of writing things like the "SCUM Manifesto," feminists have learned how to use the media to pressure institutions (like colleges) to bend to their will.

Men built the colleges and were the first college students. Then they allowed women in. Now women are trying to throw men out. This is why you don't give women an inch -- they take a mile.

I assume there are some men, somewhere in power who stay awake nights worrying what's going to happen to a country with millions of uneducated men untrained for jobs. It won't be pretty.

[HungWeiLo]

BadWolf

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Never went to university but it seems that school is taken WAAAAAY less seriously than in Asia. Why do fraternities exist? I'd beat my kids ass if he/she was spending any amount of time outside the library on my dollar.

Fraternities exist so like minded men can meet and grow together, building relationships and helping build a better community and campus. Fraternities were often founded out of the goal of bringing men together to discuss the matters of the day on campus, promote causes, and in general promote a sense of brotherhood on campus. Ostensibly to help people who know no one acclimate to campus life if you were found to be worthy of and could contribute to the goals of the whole.

Some of the best modern justifications for fraternities (besides the pussies to milk effect on chicks) are the networks prominent fraternities bestow on members if you take advantage of them, that's not to mention the general Greek network that comes with being Greek brings you. I know people and have read stories of people getting jobs and opportunities just for being Greek. There's something that a hiring manager can infer about someone who goes through the process, and ideally rises in rank within their chapter and campus.

To Broken Arrows points. They're playing with multi-generational fire. I can't site any works to prove my point right now, but societies have a propensity to follow a multi-generational and multi-decade/century path from autocracy-oligarchy-dictatorship-democracy-anarchy and back again we're heading towards the anarchy phase because women are trying to replace themselves as the predominant force (judicial, moral, and otherwise) when they don't have the strength (both physical and mental) to implement their vision. The world will decay into anarchy and people will ask one person to rule them and bring them out of their despair. Feminists ill bring this about because they can't see the endgame and will play until their rulebook is irrelevant. Only then will they know what they hath wrought.

[Tuthmosis]

(09-24-2014 10:31 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Never went to university but it seems that school is taken WAAAAAY less seriously than in Asia. Why do fraternities exist? I'd beat my kids ass if he/she was spending any amount of time outside the library on my dollar.

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[Agastya]

(09-24-2014 10:31 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Never went to university but it seems that school is taken WAAAAAY less seriously than in Asia. Why do fraternities exist? I'd beat my kids ass if he/she was spending any amount of time outside the library on my dollar.

Have fun raising a beta chode who gets zero pussy throughout his life. There's a reason why an unfortunate majority of Asian and Indian kids grow up with atrocious social skills; that reason lies in attitudes like yours.

[LeBeau]

(09-24-2014 10:31 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Never went to university but it seems that school is taken WAAAAAY less seriously than in Asia. Why do fraternities exist? I'd beat my kids ass if he/she was spending any amount of time outside the library on my dollar.

You've somehow managed to take your "Everything is better in Asia and that's the solution to all of men's problems" attitude to a whole new level:

[HeyPete]

I wasn't in a frat. I knew a bunch of the guys who were. Some were cool. Some were not.

But I would fight like hell to make sure they remain a staple of college campuses. We can't let these corrupt hags throw young fellas under the bus anymore. It has to stop somewhere.

Because after frats, who knows whats next.

And speaking of title iX. I was part of committee 20-plus years ago that was used as an advisory for a university that was trying to fund/build a new on-campus arena.

It was effen hilarious listening to these women talking about what they needed and wanted in a facility. And the stunningly stupid (expensive) shit they felt the school should be compelled to build -- for women.

Anyway on one of the discussions (panel meetings). football $$$ was brought up and after some talk this -- rigid, 50-plus year old, sloppy, man-hating cunt marches up to the mic. "Why don't we just get rid of football?"

And says it like she just uttered the most profound sentence ever said.

A male VP of something was going to answer, but a woman VP said she would handle it.

I paraphrase. But she said: "Without football. All of this disappears. We have nothing. It supports every other sport, except men's basketball which carries its own weight, on campus. And it also pays for many, many extras."

Cunt: "I refuse to believe we cant fundraise and use federal money allotted for blah blah blah."

Almost everyone on the board/panel at once (paraphrased): "Women's sports make, nor bring in any money. They are a net negative by a huge margin. Now please sit down, you have no grasp on this situation at all."

[BadWolf]

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Have fun raising a beta chode who gets zero pussy throughout his life. There's a reason why an unfortunate majority of Asian and Indian kids grow up with atrocious social skills; that reason lies in attitudes like yours.

Damn straight, my son will be getting an arranged marriage by his mother and I or he'll be paying for college by himself. If he even looks at an American girl he'll be getting a crash course in wooden spoon therapy. Taking care of children has made me one of the strictest motherfvkers you will ever meet on this planet. And I've been blessed to marry a woman who is the meanest b1tch on two legs. You would not want to be in our class bro, check your entitlement at the door.

[JWLZG]

(09-25-2014 12:20 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

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Have fun raising a beta chode who gets zero pussy throughout his life. There's a reason why an unfortunate majority of Asian and Indian kids grow up with atrocious social skills; that reason lies in attitudes like yours.

Damn straight, my son will be getting an arranged marriage by his mother and I or he'll be paying for college by himself. If he even looks at an American girl he'll be getting a crash course in wooden spoon therapy. Taking care of children has made me one of the strictest motherfvkers you will ever meet on this planet. And I've been blessed to marry a woman who is the meanest b1tch you'll ever meet. You would not want to be in our class bro, check your entitlement at the door.

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Bet he's going to save his virginity for marriage too, eh?

[Saweeep]

(09-25-2014 12:20 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

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Have fun raising a beta chode who gets zero pussy throughout his life. There's a reason why an unfortunate majority of Asian and Indian kids grow up with atrocious social skills; that reason lies in attitudes like yours.

Damn straight, my son will be getting an arranged marriage by his mother and I or he'll be paying for college by himself. If he even looks at an American girl he'll be getting a crash course in wooden spoon therapy. Taking care of children has made me one of the strictest motherfvkers you will ever meet on this planet. And I've been blessed to marry a woman who is the meanest b1tch on two legs. You would not want to be in our class bro, check your entitlement at the door.

This is a joke, right?

[Foolsgo1d]

From my experience at university in the UK, women wont necessarily prefer guys outside of a group they can associate with.

There is the friends group, associates group, sports team and then the wider university population as a whole. These for the most part have priority over men outside these spheres but if the girls want to fuck a guy and he is from the local area then they will, but not as a preference.

Banning frats would lead to groups of girls going the extra mile of hunting for guys who may not be their ideal, association-wise. Like going to the enarest town/city or going out on the town more when the locals are out.

[Duke Castile]

They may have shot themselves in the foot with this one.

Every punkass white knight in the media and on the sides of liberals was in a frat.

Sororities of women will not want frats to be banned.

It's these lesbionic harpies that had no social like this one calling for the ban that were never invited to social functions that would support this.

Meanwhile libertarian and right wing men who might white knight aren't going to be too happy about their brotherhoods being destroyed.

This could be a really good thing.

[Akula]

^^^ yeah agree. Might be good for this to get dragged out all over the press and in the mud.

Could also help expose the lies and untruths around 'campus rape' and 'rape culture' too. And at some point the mere fact that women now outnumber men 55 - 45% on campus in the US might cause the casual person to wake up and tell these feminist idiots to shut up (or tune them out).

[Renzy]

Looks like Amherst banned their frats a few months ago - Amherst College Officially Bans All Fraternities And Sororities

I'm betting we'll see more and more of this in the future.

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Student activists say Amherst’s decision is a “brave step” in the right direction. Amherst is one of at least 55 colleges and universities currently under federal investigation for mishandling sexual assault complaints.

So brave.

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Amherst will officially ban all on- and off-campus fraternities and sororities, including “underground” organizations, according to an email sent out Tuesday by the college’s board of trustees.

Although the elite private college officially cut ties with fraternities and sororities in 1984, the college still allowed the groups to convene as long as their activities were held off campus. This new decision reaffirms that resolution and further prohibits “student participation in fraternities and sororities and fraternity-like and sorority-like organizations, either on or off campus” as of July 1, 2014.

Student activists called the move a “brave step” for Amherst, which is one of at least 55 colleges and universities currently under federal investigation for mishandling sexual assault complaints.

The decision demonstrates the school’s commitment to “challenging the pervasive culture of white male privilege and entitlement on campus,” said Dana Bolger, a co-founder of national student-survivor activist group Know Your IX who is slated to graduate from Amherst in a few weeks.

“The school’s talked a pretty game so far about its commitment to improving survivors’ experiences but we haven’t seen any really tangible changes until now,” she said, noting that the decision was likely a difficult one “that will risk alienating their fratty alumni donor base.”

The administration has debated banning all fraternities since last year, after Amherst President Carolyn L. Martin assigned a special Sexual Misconduct Oversight Committee to look into how the college handled sexual assault following a highly publicized student account of campus rape.

The committee determined in early 2013 that underground fraternities, despite their lack of any official status, “possess considerable ability to shape the College’s social life” and that their “juridical invisibility” prevented the college “from enforcing appropriate expectations for student behavior with respect to them, including accountability under the Honor Code.” The committee asked the board to address the situation.

“My feeling is that ambiguity is the worst of all possible worlds,” Martin told the Huffington Post in June 2013 regarding the vague nature of the fraternities.
Despite the findings, two students filed federal complaints against the college in November 2013 alleging that the college disregarded their sexual assault reports and worked to isolate them from campus. Unofficial fraternities continued to receive bad press through this year.

Tuesday’s letter decreed that while Amherst has no authority with respect to underground fraternities and sororities, “the appearance of College responsibility cannot be avoided, both because the membership of underground fraternities consists of Amherst students and because the College has acquiesced in the fraternities’ existence.” Furthermore, it is “inevitable” that situations will occur when the policies of the College and the wishes of underground fraternities are at cross-purposes.”

[HungWeiLo]

Ridiculous. This misguided push for "equality" is the scourge of my generation and the two generations before. People, conditions, and life will never be fair or equal. The first lesson I was taught as a kid after respect, was that life isn't fair (knowing that early, I would've thought I would've seen the red pill wisdom earlier but I was a fat beta bitch boy (thanks to Christian for the description), who's since reformed himself).

I understand more and more why some men say the world is burning and they're just going to enjoy the decline and watching it burn. I still harbor that misguided notion of hope and logic that we'll right this ship because the consequences are too awful to truly believe they'll come to pass.

This all goes to reinforce my notion that liberalism/progressivism/feminism is a virus infecting society. Betas/white knights/male feminists are the cancer caused by the virus attacking their own body (society). Men who get it, who see the world for what it is, is the infected body who either embrace the destruction they see coming and do as they please while society crumbles around them, or they fight back and risk being marginalized by a society so completely corrupted by the virus and cancer that any victory is pyrrhic.

[TheWastelander]

Here's what she really wanted to say:

"Ban men from campus."

[General Stalin]

I think we should get rid of Sororities personally. What good do hey do? They are honestly just glorified whore houses from what I've heard from female university alumni. Hazings typically include blowing/sleeping with frat guys and basically just grrrrl power partying and cat fighting. When it comes to issues of sexual exploitation and sexual assault risks I would venture to say Sororities are far more of a liability.

[Truth Teller]

Bravery needs to be removed from the dictionary. There's nothing "brave" about making a decision to remove an organization from campus or being a single mother.

Bravery is doing what Audie Murphy did: climbing on the back of a burning tank destroyer and holding off 200+ Germans with a .50 caliber machine gun.

[HungWeiLo]

Oddly enough, in most states, sorority houses are still governed by "brothel law" which usually states that unless school is in session, groups of girls as large as sororities can't live under one roof because they're tantamount to a whore house; so the girls move into fraternity houses or back home during Christmas and (sometimes) summer break. But when school is in session, they can live to together and do "out-calls" to fraternity houses /wherever and it's all good, because education.

[HungWeiLo]

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Bravery is doing what Audie Murphy did: climbing on the back of a burning tank destroyer and holding off 200+ Germans with a .50 caliber machine gun.

I remember that story. Is that what the new movie Fury is about? Because they look/sound really similar.