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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges
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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges

The insanity continues:

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College: Students must agree ‘why’ they had sex to avoid sexual assault charges
By Hans Bader on September 12, 2014 at 2:25 pm

At Ohio State University, to avoid being guilty of “sexual assault” or “sexual violence,” you and your partner now apparently have to agree on the reason WHY you are making out or having sex. It’s not enough to agree to DO it, you have to agree on WHY: there has to be agreement “regarding the who, what, where, when, why, and how this sexual activity will take place.”

There used to be a joke that women need a reason to have sex, while men only need a place. Does this policy reflect that juvenile mindset? Such a requirement baffles some women in the real world: a female member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights told me, “I am still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of any two intimates in the world agreeing as to ‘why.’”

Ohio State’s sexual-assault policy, which effectively turns some welcome touching into “sexual assault,” may be the product of its recent Resolution Agreement with the Office for Civil Rights (where I used to work) to resolve a Title IX complaint over its procedures for handling cases of sexual harassment and assault. That agreement, on page 6, requires the University to “provide consistent definitions of and guidance about the University terms ‘sexual harassment,’ ‘consent,’ ‘sexual violence,’ ‘sexual assault,’ and ‘sexual misconduct.’” It is possible that Ohio State will broaden its already overbroad “sexual assault” definition even further: Some officials at Ohio State, like its Student Wellness Center, advocate defining all sex or “kissing” without “verbal,” “enthusiastic” consent as “sexual assault.”

Ohio State applies an impractical “agreement” requirement to not just sex, but also to a much broader category of “touching” that is sexual (or perhaps romantic?) in nature. First, it states that “sexual assault is any form of non-consensual sexual activity. Sexual assault includes all unwanted sexual acts from intimidation to touching to various forms of penetration and rape.” Then, it states that “Consent is a knowing and voluntary verbal or non-verbal agreement between both parties to participate in each and every sexual act. . .Conduct will be considered “non-consensual” if no clear consent . . . is given. . . .Effective consent can be given by words or actions so long as the words or actions create a mutual understanding between both parties regarding the conditions of the sexual activity–ask, ‘do both of us understand and agree regarding the who, what, where, when, why, and how this sexual activity will take place?’”

This “agreement” requirement is impractical, because unlike sex (where there is generally an implicit agreement among the participants before it can even happen, since sex is difficult to do without active cooperation), no one agrees in advance – verbally or non-verbally – to have someone touch them in a particular place while making out. No one ever says, “may I touch your breast” before doing it while making out. They may (and usually do) welcome (and enjoy) it after it occurs, but they don’t specifically “agree” to it in advance (indeed, they may have expected the touch to occur in a different place, even if they found it pleasant). The very process of making out is a gradual escalation of intimacy step by step, without constant discussion or an endless series of agreements. That may be impossible under Ohio State’s policy, not just because it requires “agreement” (rather than mere “acquiescence”) but also because it expresses hostility to the concept of “consent to one form of sexual activity” being a signal of receptiveness to other, slightly more intimate “forms of sexual activity.” But that’s exactly what happens in making out: when you acquiesce in one form of touching or other “sexual activity” long enough, that signals a likely willingness to engage in slightly more intimate forms of touching — although you are free to rebut that presumption of willingness at any time simply by saying “no” or physically conveying your unwillingness. Such fluid interaction is threatened by Ohio State’s definition, which states that that “Consent to one form of sexual activity does not imply consent to other . . . sexual activity,” that there must be “agreement between both parties to participate in each and every sexual act,” that only “clear consent” counts, and that “Consent can never be assumed, even in the context of a relationship.”

If this definition of “sexual assault” were not already broad enough, Ohio State’s Student Wellness Center seeks to radically narrow the concept of consent further (and ban “kissing” without verbal consent as “sexual assault”). It says consent must be “verbal,” “enthusiastic,” and must be “asked for every step of the way”; “If consent is not obtained prior to each act of sexual behavior (from kissing to intercourse), it is not consensual sex,” it says. Consent also must also be a litany of other things, such as “sober,” “informed,” “honest,” “wanted,” and “creative.”

This fixation on consensual “agreement” is ironic, because it logically has little to do with Title IX, which is concerned with sexual harassment, which is about what would is unwelcome, not “agreements” or even “consent.” To be sexual harassment, conduct has to be “unwelcome,” a concept that is both broader and narrower than “consent,” as the Supreme Court explained in its Meritor decision. (To violate Title IX, sexual harassment also has to be severe enough to interfere with your education, and be the sort of thing that would offend a reasonable person in your position).

When you agree to sleep with your supervisor after he has been pestering you for dates, that’s technically consensual, but can be very “unwelcome.” Conversely, if someone touches you without any agreement (or reason to believe you would like it), but you liked being touched anyway, that’s “welcome,” even if there was no “consent.” (There is some overlap between consent and unwelcomeness: If you deliberately invite or incite a peer to do something, that may occasionally be deemed welcome even if you didn’t subjectively like it, as in the federal appeals court’s Scusa v. Nestle USA decision; but generally, unwelcomeness means you subjectively didn’t like an act). The obsession with “agreement” also has little to do with sexual-assault law, which often requires a showing of force or intimidation — not just lack of consent — for convictions, and even when consent is at issue, implied consent almost always counts, too (such as welcoming or continuing to participate in an activity). Even if conduct like kissing is unwelcome (and amounts to sexual harassment), it often doesn’t rise to the level of a criminal sexual assault. Conversely, occasionally one sees conduct that is technically sexual assault yet does not qualify as illegal sexual harassment, as in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decision in Brooks v. City of San Mateo.

Ohio State also seems to ignore the law about sex and drinking. You can’t have sex when your partner is incapacitated by alcohol: that’s rape in most jurisdictions. But most intoxication does not rise to the level of incapacitation, and it’s perfectly reasonable to have sex with your spouse after having a glass of wine. That’s not rape, and it’s certainly not unwelcome. But Ohio State’s definition confuses matters by saying, “By law, a person cannot give consent, even when he or she might verbally say so, when: The person is so intoxicated or unconscious due to alcohol or drugs.” There’s a huge difference between unconsciousness (rape) and mere intoxication (not rape).

As we noted earlier, rigid “consent” requirements are for legally-binding contracts, not casual interaction among intimates. When my wife and daughter hug me, they don’t ask for my permission first. Nor do I give my formal “consent” or “agree” to a hug in advance. It’s not necessary, because they know without asking that such contact is very likely to be welcome. It’s simple common sense.

Similarly, people don’t ask, “may I touch your breast” or “may I touch your [deleted],” before doing so while making out, since that would be awkward, off-putting, and involve endless yammering (and maybe wake up the sleeping baby in the adjacent bedroom). Instead, they touch their partner’s body part when the time seems right, and then stop if the partner objects. Such contact is usually welcomed after it occurs, and may even be reciprocated, but there is no “clear” affirmative permission for it. In the unlikely event that one partner does object, the other partner respects that objection by stopping, but the objection doesn’t render what previously occurred “sexual assault,” since there was no ill intent, and no harm done. By contrast, requiring “affirmative” permission before each touch is at odds with the actual practices of both women and men in healthy, non-abusive, egalitarian relationships.

Verbal communication shouldn’t have to occur before touching when it occurs between partners or intimates, for whom the touching is itself communicative, the way romantic touching often is (like a hug or kiss). Requiring an “agreement” before it can occur sometimes makes as little sense as requiring an agreement before one person can compliment the other.

Ohio State’s policy may also lead to due-process violations. It states that “Consent to one form of sexual activity does not imply consent to other . . . sexual activity,” and “Consent can never be assumed, even in the context of a relationship.” But a relationship, and a couple’s past consensual sexual activity, can shed crucial light on whether it is plausible that the couple later engaged in the same kind of activity. For example, as we noted earlier, the New Jersey courts, which have the narrowest definition of sexual consent of any state, nonetheless have recognized that the overall “course of conduct” between the complainant and the accused can show “affirmative permission.” Indeed, they have ruled that it can be so relevant and “highly material” that it constitutionally must be considered as evidence, since a jury could infer consent from it. In State v. Garron (2003), the New Jersey Supreme Court ruled that in determining whether the complainant consented to sex, the court must consider her overall “course of conduct over a six-year period” with the accused, such as her visiting his home and her “repeated physical contact” with him, as well as the complainant’s past “kisses” and “grabbing” the accused’s “derrière.” And even in contract law, where stricter consent requirements apply, consent or agreement can be inferred from the parties’ past relationship, such as their “course of dealing,” or “course of performance.”

As we noted earlier, imposing an “affirmative” consent or “agreement” requirement for touching does nothing to help rape victims, and serves no legitimate purpose. Even supporters of the “affirmative” consent requirement, like Tara Culp-Ressler have on other occasions admitted that sexual violence is not the result of mixed signals: studies show that people who commit sexual violence are almost always aware that what they are doing is against the will of their victims, rather than the assault being the product of “blurred” communications.

Classifying “kissing” as “sexual assault” if it occurs without “verbal” consent — the way Ohio State’s Wellness Center does — is so extreme that it could create a PR disaster. If a school expels or even suspends a student for kissing and calls him a “sexual assault” perpetrator, many will view it as outrageous overkill, that student may sue, and groups like FIRE will publicize it as an example of PC college administrators run amok. But if it does not expel or remove the student from campus, despite calling it “sexual assault,” people will wrongly assume there is a rapist on campus (because “the terms ‘rape’ and ‘sexual assault’ are sometimes used synonymously in common language”), angry classmates may protest the student’s presence as a result, and Ohio State may end up being denounced by web sites or journalists who depict colleges as as “rape cultures” or “rape factories” (even though the rape rate has fallen 58% since the mid-1990s).

As we noted earlier, when politically-correct Antioch College insisted on such agreements to consent in the early 1990s for things like kissing, touching, and sex, it was lampooned on Saturday Night Live, which noted that it would reduce making out and foreplay to awkward scenes like this:

Male Date Rape Player #1: . . . May I kiss you on the mouth.
Female Date Rape Player #1: Yes. I would like you to kiss me on the mouth.
[ they kiss on the mouth ]
Male Date Rape Player #1: May I elevate the level of sexual intimacy by feeling your buttocks?
Female Date Rape Player #1: Yes. You have my permission.
[ Male touches Female's buttocks ]

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In the past "liberals" were obsessed with micromanaging every aspect of someone's life except sexual. This I guess distracted people from their fascist motives. However they are now directly targeting peoples sexual lives and I think this will really bite them.
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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges

Perhaps we should start a charity which supplies anti-psychotic drugs to American university/college administrators. The poor dears are clearly suffering.
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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges

Soon you're going to need the signed permission & monitoring of an RA/professor/government-official to have sex or its going to be rape.
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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges

A mistake that people sometimes make is to look at an absurd law or regulation like this, and think, "this is so insane that it can never be enforced -- why, it makes everyone a criminal! So it's irrelevant and nothing to worry about".

Wrong. The imposition of absurdly overbroad laws that render everyone a criminal or a lawbreaker does not mean that they will never be enforced -- rather, it means that they will be enforced at the whim and discretion of the bureaucrats and those charged with enforcing such laws. In effect, the existence of such overbroad regulations gives bureaucrats absolute power and discretion -- clearly, such regulations cannot be enforced on everyone, so they will be enforced whenever and wherever they please. It puts people at the mercy of the administrative authorities and leads to arbitrary and capricious rule. It effectively makes a society corrupt and lawless. That is why dictatorial and authoritarian states always write such sweeping and overbroad laws, which can then serve as a tool to be used whenever and wherever those in power decide to use it.

That is why, in addition to their evil and anti-human substance, the very unrealistic and absurdly overbroad nature of these regulations is a terrible evil in itself. They must be fought by all means available.

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
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What is this shit?

I feel like I'm reading something from the Onion.

The soristitutes are going to get no cock from this....pity them

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Notice that these policies aren't aimed at homosexuals, nor do you see liberals foaming at the mouth over BDSM sex parties, orgies or other forms of sexual debauchery.

No, their ire is reserved for young heterosexual men who would dare to have normal sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex. In 2014, that's simply not something they can endorse.

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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges

The reality of all these "pre-sex agreements", is that universities give two shits about who is fucked by whom and under what circumstances.

They just want to avoid being sued.
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Ohio State: must have "sex agreement" to avoid assault charges

I can't help but feel that this is a push toward a more Orwelian world.

We all joke about college sexual promiscuity, but how many marriages and families were creating out of "college sweethearts"? What starts out as a drunken fling could turn into a lifelong partnership, and I'm willing to bet it's very common.

We're living in a bizarro world where sex between adults is now a crime. This is some high level Thought Police shit. This isn't about stopping rape or sexual assault. This is about breaking men and women apart and "higher" institutions wedging themselves into our personal lives.

It can't and won't last though. It's policies like these that drive more and more men to MGTOW. Sex is the greatest motivator for most men. Take that away from them and watch what happens.

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Quote: (09-13-2014 12:31 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

What is this shit?

I feel like I'm reading something from the Onion.

The soristitutes are going to get no cock from this....pity them

The sorostitutes will still get it. It will be business as usual -- dudes and sluts aren't going to stop getting drunk and fucking.

But a number of unfortunates will have their reputations and their lives ruined because some bitch arbitrarily decided that she was "assaulted". And it will put an evil chill in the atmosphere and give some of the worst people the power to pick and choose their victims and put them through these kangaroo court "review boards" that will seal their fates.

The reality will vary from college to college. In some, these will really be paper regulations that are never enforced. And in others, there will be effective peer pressure on the females to not make these life-destroying "assault" complaints. It will depend a good deal on the school -- there are many places, even some Ivies, where it's not "cool" to be a false rape accuser. But there will also be some colleges where this evil is pursued with some gusto and a number of lives will actually be ruined.

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
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Quote: (09-13-2014 12:41 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Notice that these policies aren't aimed at homosexuals, nor do you see liberals foaming at the mouth over BDSM sex parties, orgies or other forms of sexual debauchery.

No, their ire is reserved for young heterosexual men who would dare to have normal sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex. In 2014, that's simply not something they can endorse.

Damn I was going to write something similar.

Make no mistake, this is targeted against male heterosexuals.

Homosexual men will not be affected by this rule.

Heterosexual women will not be affected by this rule (except maybe indirectly by more pussified men).

Lesbians will not be affected by this rule.

I believe at the root of this type of insanity you will find homely women. This is institutional cockblocking and revenge against heterosexual men and our nature. They hate us and how nature made us.

It's male heterosexual nature to not give a shit about women unless they are sexually appealing to us (except for perhaps family and our friend's families). That's just how we are made. It's universal. I know some pretty liberal guys, who went to the most liberal universities, and live in the most liberal cities, who might even pay lip service to some feminist platitudes, but who I observe are oblivious to any woman who isn't young and hot.

We don't care about their degrees, we don't care about their "whacky sense of humor," we don't care about their "accomplishments." All we care about is their ass, tits, vag and face. If they are not sexually appealing, they are invisible to us.

So a broad hit with the ugly stick walks around invisible and sees how all the men pay attention to the hot chicks. They figuratively jump up and down saying "hey, look at me!!" but we still don't see them. They think "well Uncle Bill is not attractive, but he is a great business leader so he gets the admiration and respect of so many. That's what I'll do. Get a great degree and a great career, then I will be someone and people will pay attention to me and respect me." But throughout her education and in the workforce, still no one gives a shit about her. She probably isn't as smart as Uncle Bill, and her leadership style is repulsive to men and women alike. And in the end, she is still just an ugly women and therefore is useless in most people's eyes.

So she turns to revenge and misandry. She hates the nature of heterosexual men, and how we like young hot tight bitches. She starts inventing words like "objectification" to shame out nature. She spreads the word that it's "retrograde" for men to acknowledge the beauty of attractive women. She starts convincing attractive women that they are being "assaulted" when she is the object of a man's desire.

She conspires with other homely women to incrementally tighten the noose around heterosexual male nature. Whether it is some quixotic plan to bend nature to what they want, or to exact revenge against us, they figure it is better than letting nature run its course, and having heterosexual men dole out too much attention to hot women and not enough to homely ones.

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RVFers at O State should do some trolling......using the laws against females, especially feminists.

Game some broad then accuse her of not asking for permission nor a reason to escalate the alpha male.

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Dusty, yes, hag resentment is a big part of the impetus for pushing these evil laws. And it is true that historical periods during which females, and hags in particular, were in the ascendant, invariably led to this kind of prudish and killjoy atmosphere -- the Prohibitionist fervor in the US, driven by hag "temperance societies" and passed into law by female votes while the men were away during World War I, is a great example.

But there are also other, and even darker, forces at work -- there are reasons why these draconian anti-male laws find such broad acceptance and support, including from the myriads of white knights who are as fanatically behind them as the hags are. They are the expression of a fundamentally anti-human ideology which reserves a special hatred for the normal heterosexual male sex drive as the most characteristic expression of the force that propels man and mankind upward and forward, rather than towards the "smaller footprint", reduction and perhaps even extinction of the human being -- which is what these fanatics aim for, consciously or not.

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
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So...I'm at OSU...I invite a prostitute or call girl over. This is acceptable, right? Groundwork is clearly laid out and the sexual transaction that takes place was clearly agreed upon beforehand.
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Quote: (09-13-2014 12:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

A mistake that people sometimes make is to look at an absurd law or regulation like this, and think, "this is so insane that it can never be enforced -- why, it makes everyone a criminal! So it's irrelevant and nothing to worry about".

In effect, the existence of such overbroad regulations gives bureaucrats absolute power and discretion -- clearly, such regulations cannot be enforced on everyone, so they will be enforced whenever and wherever they please. It puts people at the mercy of the administrative authorities and leads to arbitrary and capricious rule.


Exactly right. The laws that are enforceable at discretion and are mostly ignored until they decide to pull them out and stick 'em on you are the worst. Because literally people get away with crimes all day long but they cherry pick certain people & arrest them and call them criminals.
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Quote: (09-13-2014 01:53 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  

So...I'm at OSU...I invite a prostitute or call girl over. This is acceptable, right? Groundwork is clearly laid out and the sexual transaction that takes place was clearly agreed upon beforehand.

Ohio or Pokie state?

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Et tu, OSU?

I've moved on from letting shit like this keep me up at night. Every new story like this becomes a new motivation factor for me to keep working harder, making more money, getting my ass to the gym, and (soon) brushing up on my Spanish, so I can high-tail it the fuck outta here to Panama or Costa Rica. Instead of being frustrated when these come out, I get excited because I'll be laughing all the way to the beach.
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Quote: (09-13-2014 12:41 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Notice that these policies aren't aimed at homosexuals, nor do you see liberals foaming at the mouth over BDSM sex parties, orgies or other forms of sexual debauchery.

No, their ire is reserved for young heterosexual men who would dare to have normal sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex. In 2014, that's simply not something they can endorse.

As the great Sean Connery put it in Dr. No, our asylums are full of people who think they're Napoleon or God. Of course, as someone wisely added on last week, we see nothing wrong with people who feel as though they were born the "wrong" gender.

Whatever religious inclinations you may have (atheist, agnostic, deist, theist, or any of the 100 others), this shit really got started because of secularism.

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A bunch of 4-6s get pumped and dumped, angry that the guys they like don't like them, demand shit like this.

I know that sounds kinda silly, but I honestly think that is what is behind this. I have NEVER met an attractive/desirable woman who acts this way. None of them complain on my social media about street harassment, use stupid feminist terms (mansplain) or ever go on about 'white male privilege'.

This is the result of teaching all women they are beautiful and if they feel it, it must be right. Eventually the truth hits them, there is resistance to their feelings, it hurts, and someone has to pay.
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There is a simple solution:

All men should boycott universities with draconian policies like these. Let them become all-girl- & homosexual- schools. They will feel an impact in their wallets alright and the girls won't like that either, since usually they are the ones unable to live without male presence.

This ever more resembles Goerge Orwell's 1984 - and the hypocrisy of it all! Rampant promiscuity, tax-sponsored high-level-escorts for all leaders of any G8 or G20 meeting (they cannot even abstain for several days - came out in a Canadian newspaper and they brushed it off as business-expenses), orgies happening at the highest political and business levels with underage hookers (known cases in France, Italy, Berlusconi, Czech prime minister, - those are the known orgies with pics) - but yeah - let us rather focus on young heterosexual males trying to get laid in a humble and simple way.
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Damn, looks like I graduated from there just in time.

I can't imagine OSU being the spearhead for this movement. There's gotta be other schools that started this first, but maybe I'm wrong...
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The federal government is forcing all colleges to take actions of this kind or risk losing federal funding. It all started with the infamous "Dear Colleague" letter in 2011 when a Department of Education official named Russlynn Ali sent a letter to university administrators essentially declaring that they must use the ludicrous "preponderance of evidence" standard in adjudicating sexual assault claims, or run afoul of Title IX regulations. The screws were tightened again this year with laws being passed in Congress (driven by Democratic hags like Claire McCaskill but enjoying plenty of support from Republican white knights) that essentially require colleges to implement regulations of this kind.

That being said, the Ohio State formulation and the requirement of agreeing on the "why" is particularly absurd and egregious. But these things are sprouting up everywhere, and every college is obliged to implement a misandrist policy of this kind in one way or another.

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
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Quote: (09-13-2014 03:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

There is a simple solution:

All men should boycott universities with draconian policies like these. Let them become all-girl- & homosexual- schools. They will feel an impact in their wallets alright and the girls won't like that either, since usually they are the ones unable to live without male presence.

When we decide on which university all men will be boycotting, let me know, man.

I'll enroll immediately, hehehe.
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Quote: (09-13-2014 12:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

A mistake that people sometimes make is to look at an absurd law or regulation like this, and think, "this is so insane that it can never be enforced -- why, it makes everyone a criminal! So it's irrelevant and nothing to worry about".

Wrong. The imposition of absurdly overbroad laws that render everyone a criminal or a lawbreaker does not mean that they will never be enforced -- rather, it means that they will be enforced at the whim and discretion of the bureaucrats and those charged with enforcing such laws. In effect, the existence of such overbroad regulations gives bureaucrats absolute power and discretion -- clearly, such regulations cannot be enforced on everyone, so they will be enforced whenever and wherever they please. It puts people at the mercy of the administrative authorities and leads to arbitrary and capricious rule. It effectively makes a society corrupt and lawless. That is why dictatorial and authoritarian states always write such sweeping and overbroad laws, which can then serve as a tool to be used whenever and wherever those in power decide to use it.

That is why, in addition to their evil and anti-human substance, the very unrealistic and absurdly overbroad nature of these regulations is a terrible evil in itself. They must be fought by all means available.

This. Written laws exist to bind the discretion of flawed human beings. We strike to be a nation of laws, not of men.

The new turned is to make everything a crime, leaving absolute discretion over our lives and liberties to flawed men and women.
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