[cowboy]

I suspect that more and more men will wake up over the next decade. As stated by another poster the single stats will continue to increase.

The question I have is how long do you think it will take for women to wake the fuck up? Do you think their will ever be a reverse in the current trend in western society or will beta males continue to give women a false sense of biological empowerment?

The reason I ask is I have ran into more and more women women in the 35-40 age range who are basically in desparation mode. It's as if these women have finally woken up and realized they have a biological clock. They all have the same background: high maintenance, hottie, attention whores who have reached pump and dump status. It's as if they didn't see it coming. I have been noticing this more and more over the past year.

[StrikeBack]

Roosh wrote a blog about asking women two questions:

- Do you need a man?

- Do you want a man?

The answer to the first question is always "No" even in more traditional countries.

The answer to the second one is always "No" in America (and I reckon the whole Anglosphere) and frequently "No" in others.

Even if in fact they do need and want men, as they say to themselves and others that they don't often enough, it becomes their mindset and reality.

If you ask men similar questions about whether they need or want a woman, well there's no prize for guessing the answers.

[R Smoov]

So you mean to tell me all those girls who scream "I have a boyfriend" we're lying to hide their loneliness?

Dang.

[Sonsowey]

In states with gay marriage, could having a long term roomate lead to being common law gay married? Finding my next roomate I may have to be a bit more picky, "do you have dental insurance?"

[Biologist]

(09-09-2014 07:37 PM)Collide Wrote:  

By any rational human being this would be a sign of concern, but Jezebel took the information as positive news.

Quote:

Despite that flood of wedding photos on your Facebook news feed, married people are not taking over the world. According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, single adults now outnumber married adults for the first time since 1976 when they first began tracking the data.

It's by a very slim margin, but nevertheless, WE SINGLES ARE THE CHAMPIONS.

So swipe right on Tinder proudly and enjoy not having to regularly share your bed comforter with any damn body, for you, the single, are one of the unchosen majority.

The feminists appear to be hell-bent on transforming the world into a joyless and sexless place, and yet we're the bad guys

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(09-10-2014 09:11 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Roosh wrote a blog about asking women two questions:

- Do you need a man?

- Do you want a man?

The answer to the first question is always "No" even in more traditional countries.

The answer to the second one is always "No" in America (and I reckon the whole Anglosphere) and frequently "No" in others.

Even if in fact they do need and want men, as they say to themselves and others that they don't often enough, it becomes their mindset and reality.

If you ask men similar questions about whether they need or want a woman, well there's no prize for guessing the answers.

There are some still women who say yes to the first question, just far away from even the the "traditional but being westernized" world.

[tynamite]

It's happening in Britain too.
51% of UK citizens haven't had sex in the past month says charity research study.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-49587.html

[Captainstabbin]

Read Yahoo!Answers marriage and divorce section some time. It's filled with reasons to avoid marriage. Married women on there are entitled, utterly self-absorbed, feel absolutely no responsibility to satisfy a husband's needs (even deny his needs exist), are fat, nagging, horrible mothers, have no domestic skills and are ready to divorce and take a man's money and kids at the drop of a hat - ANY hat.

What would be the incentive? When they were dating, these women were probably thin (at least thinner), sexually aggressive, kind, considerate, professed their love of children and belief in a traditional marriage - all while realizing that the man-hating family courts will have their back if they change their mind. As men, we need to vet women better.

As to women not wanting marriage - I guess I attract the weird ones. No matter where I've lived, women I date start talking marriage in 4-5 months. It's crazy!

[Dusty]

[Samseau]

^ And who provides the welfare? Delusional bitches...

[ManVsMachine]

Repeated hundreds of times, but always relevant

[Easy_C]

(09-09-2014 09:50 PM)rpg Wrote:  

The average cost of of a wedding is $30,000. Hell no. Who wants to fork over that much to try and make a girl happy for 2 hours?

Which is pretty ridiculous, because we were able to pull of a pretty nice ceremony for a tenth of that price.....complete with catered food and a beautiful setting.

What drives the price up is ridiculous extravaganza expenses like paying for a live band or buying the fanciest wedding cake(easily made up by a group effort). Most of those extravaganza costs can be chopped out entirely by letting someone you know do it.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(09-09-2014 08:50 PM)civpro Wrote:  

Whether that's true or not, one shouldn't interpret 'single' as 'available'. Don't discount the fuckbuddy phenomenon, validation through social media, and unreachable standards.

Absolutely right. A guy reading these statistics might - erroneously - draw the conclusion that the available pussy is much greater than in societies where there's a much lower singles rate. But, in my view, the opposite conclusion is to be drawn: The very fact that 1 in every 2 people are single reflects the fact that women are pricing themselves out of the market by focusing on an error narrower segment of the male demographic. Meanwhile, those alpha guys that all these women are holding out for now have so many options that there's no way they're going to wife up the skanks, either. The ones really getting shafted are the increasing number of beta and omega incel losers, whose dry stretches rival the Arabian peninsula. I'm honestly surprised that more guys aren't completely losing it and going postal at the mall, given the levels of thirst these days. Elliott Rodgers, George Sodini and Co. are just the canaries in the coalmine, I fear, for what is still to come.

The phenomenon explained in a single word: hypergamy.

[Easy_C]

(08-08-2015 12:34 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Read Yahoo!Answers marriage and divorce section some time. It's filled with reasons to avoid marriage. Married women on there are entitled, utterly self-absorbed, feel absolutely no responsibility to satisfy a husband's needs (even deny his needs exist), are fat, nagging, horrible mothers, have no domestic skills and are ready to divorce and take a man's money and kids at the drop of a hat - ANY hat.

To be fair Yahoo IS one of the biggest leftist cesspits out there. They keep popping up on my FB feed and the commenters are some of the most batshit crazy I see on any site. They're close to Jezebel batty.

Quote:

What would be the incentive? When they were dating, these women were probably thin (at least thinner), sexually aggressive, kind, considerate, professed their love of children and belief in a traditional marriage - all while realizing that the man-hating family courts will have their back if they change their mind. As men, we need to vet women better.

Agreed on the last sentence. I will say that while a lot of these women are capable of putting on a good front it doesn't hold up to serious scrutiny.

[Chewbacon]

This is happening not just in america, but in places in asia like korea, japan, and even china as well.

Could it be that as all countries become more materially well off and more globalized, that the solipsistic narcissism of women becomes more and more pronounced, regardless of whether they are in the west or not?

[Samseau]

(08-09-2015 12:17 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

This is happening not just in america, but in places in asia like korea, japan, and even china as well.

Could it be that as all countries become more materially well off and more globalized, that the solipsistic narcissism of women becomes more and more pronounced, regardless of whether they are in the west or not?

It has to be at least part of it.

[Gimlet]

The rich are still marrying even as the upper income and all those lower are not. Unmarried people are more likely to have little savings and no property in their later years. I believe this is why the institution of marrying is being destroyed in most nations with a healthy GDP. We are marching towards a world of rich and poor with nothing in between. The whole concept of marriage being about "love" instead of building a family unit was the start of this nonsense. The rich are still marrying for the old fashioned reason, as a means to consolidate power and advance their lineage. You stick it out through the bad times to advance your genes. You flee when bad times hit when marriage is about love.

Women are shitty because they have been brainwashed into believing that The Self is the most important thing. Solipsism, materialism, independence, happiness is automatically deserved all are symptoms. Men have been brainwashed as well... See how many times men red pill types say "enjoy the decline" and fear "divorce rape" rather than developing a firm hand with a wide in order to further what his ancestors have developed over thousands of years.

[Samseau]

(08-09-2015 05:10 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

The rich are still marrying even as the upper income and all those lower are not. Unmarried people are more likely to have little savings and no property in their later years. I believe this is why the institution of marrying is being destroyed in most nations with a healthy GDP. We are marching towards a world of rich and poor with nothing in between. The whole concept of marriage being about "love" instead of building a family unit was the start of this nonsense. The rich are still marrying for the old fashioned reason, as a means to consolidate power and advance their lineage. You stick it out through the bad times to advance your genes. You flee when bad times hit when marriage is about love.

Women are shitty because they have been brainwashed into believing that The Self is the most important thing. Solipsism, materialism, independence, happiness is automatically deserved all are symptoms. Men have been brainwashed as well... See how many times men red pill types say "enjoy the decline" and fear "divorce rape" rather than developing a firm hand with a wide in order to further what his ancestors have developed over thousands of years.

> Develops firm hand
> Gets thrown in prison for domestic abuse, assraped
> Rational men go back to enjoying the decline

[Gimlet]

(08-09-2015 09:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 05:10 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

The rich are still marrying even as the upper income and all those lower are not. Unmarried people are more likely to have little savings and no property in their later years. I believe this is why the institution of marrying is being destroyed in most nations with a healthy GDP. We are marching towards a world of rich and poor with nothing in between. The whole concept of marriage being about "love" instead of building a family unit was the start of this nonsense. The rich are still marrying for the old fashioned reason, as a means to consolidate power and advance their lineage. You stick it out through the bad times to advance your genes. You flee when bad times hit when marriage is about love.

Women are shitty because they have been brainwashed into believing that The Self is the most important thing. Solipsism, materialism, independence, happiness is automatically deserved all are symptoms. Men have been brainwashed as well... See how many times men red pill types say "enjoy the decline" and fear "divorce rape" rather than developing a firm hand with a wide in order to further what his ancestors have developed over thousands of years.

> Develops firm hand
> Gets thrown in prison for domestic abuse, assraped
> Rational men go back to enjoying the decline

A firm hand has nothing to do with physical violence. You should never have to reach that point. Any woman who needs to be dealt with violently should be out of the game when it comes to your seed. Don't plant it there. Respect your seed, it is the gift of your ancestors. Further what they have built instead of simply enjoying the decline for short term gain.

[Samseau]

(08-09-2015 10:10 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 09:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 05:10 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

The rich are still marrying even as the upper income and all those lower are not. Unmarried people are more likely to have little savings and no property in their later years. I believe this is why the institution of marrying is being destroyed in most nations with a healthy GDP. We are marching towards a world of rich and poor with nothing in between. The whole concept of marriage being about "love" instead of building a family unit was the start of this nonsense. The rich are still marrying for the old fashioned reason, as a means to consolidate power and advance their lineage. You stick it out through the bad times to advance your genes. You flee when bad times hit when marriage is about love.

Women are shitty because they have been brainwashed into believing that The Self is the most important thing. Solipsism, materialism, independence, happiness is automatically deserved all are symptoms. Men have been brainwashed as well... See how many times men red pill types say "enjoy the decline" and fear "divorce rape" rather than developing a firm hand with a wide in order to further what his ancestors have developed over thousands of years.

> Develops firm hand
> Gets thrown in prison for domestic abuse, assraped
> Rational men go back to enjoying the decline

A firm hand has nothing to do with physical violence. You should never have to reach that point. Any woman who needs to be dealt with violently should be out of the game when it comes to your seed. Don't plant it there. Respect your seed, it is the gift of your ancestors. Further what they have built instead of simply enjoying the decline for short term gain.

I don't think you really understand. If the woman hits you, you'll go to jail for domestic abuse.

Pretty much you either become a total beta male while she cheats on you with impunity, or she divorce rapes you, or you restrain her out of control behavior (just a matter of time till it comes) and you go to jail. Those are the options, unfortunately.

The other option is to expat to a male friendly country, or get a unicorn from flyover country and pray she doesn't become corrupted by American culture.

[Ingocnito]

(09-09-2014 07:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Unmarried doesn't mean alone. A lot of people are simply co-habiting now instead of marrying. As well as having out of wedlock kids.

What's scary is waiting to see if common law marriage laws change to open the door for more financial ass raping of men in co-habitation.

[CostinR]

(08-09-2015 11:59 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 07:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Unmarried doesn't mean alone. A lot of people are simply co-habiting now instead of marrying. As well as having out of wedlock kids.

What's scary is waiting to see if common law marriage laws change to open the door for more financial ass raping of men in co-habitation.

In my country, Romania, they already have.

If you live with someone for a number of years and are in a sexual relationship ( I believe it's five ) then that person will get the rights to half of what you own.

Basically it's either get married with a prenuptial contract or get fucked.

[Ingocnito]

(09-10-2014 05:12 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 10:09 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

Most girls I meet nowadays are desperate to let everyone know they are most certainly NOT looking for a boyfriend. "But I don't do hookups."

Yeah, isn't that something? And the reason is usually, "I'm too busy". They are literally proud of being too busy to need a guy in their life. It's unreal.

Well of course, they're too busy to need "A" guy in their life, but never too busy to need multiple guys in their life. Each one slotted into a hamsterized category she can benefit the greatest from, lying as effectively as possible to maximize ROI for her precious princess time. Most 6s+ have it mastered.

Guys as whole, are just now barely catching on.

[Ingocnito]

(08-10-2015 12:09 AM)CostinR Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 11:59 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 07:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Unmarried doesn't mean alone. A lot of people are simply co-habiting now instead of marrying. As well as having out of wedlock kids.

What's scary is waiting to see if common law marriage laws change to open the door for more financial ass raping of men in co-habitation.

In my country, Romania, they already have.

If you live with someone for a number of years and are in a sexual relationship ( I believe it's five ) then that person will get the rights to half of what you own.

Basically it's either get married with a prenuptial contract or get fucked.

Well touche to that, because here in the states, its been amply proven prenups are easily broken if the woman has a strong legal team. We're basically in a state here where the only safety is mini-relationships, ONSs, flings, or LTRs where you don't co-habitate, but count your girlfriend's birth control pills and personally administer them to her.

[blacknwhitespade]

Dalrock had a great post on The Marriage Strike a while back. Basically, 17-20 yr old women in the fifties/sixties saw their older sisters married off by 20-23, so they had getting married on their mind. Many found a decent guy in high school or shortly thereafter via family/friends. Even as recently as the eighties and nineties, college undergrad hotties 18-22 saw their slightly older sisters around 23-26 getting into LTRs/marriage, hence finding a good guy for an LTR/marriage was a priority. Today, college 18-23 year olds do not have the idea of LTR/marriage even in the back of their mind. By mid-20s, that kernel of thought finally starts to develop, but women are pickier than ever and the college-educated ones are still partying some, going to grad school, looking for better options at that age. It's not until 28 at the earliest that many Gen-Y college women start getting serious about finding a husband, and I've even met 28 year olds who are still wishy-washy. This is why when you look at the 30+ female dating pool, it's a shit show of mostly flat-out unmarriageable women. You're mostly dealing with fussy careerists, ex-carousellers, single moms, and the fat and the fugly. Garden variety girls who were mildly attractive in their prime 20s become barren-looking, drop 2-3 points by 30 and are simply not attractive/arousing anymore. If they have sexual/dating/babymomma baggage, they simply have nothing to offer. Near-model-caliber hotties can still look very good into their 30s, but they most likely do not have a good reason for being single.