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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Quote: (09-13-2018 03:39 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

I have gone out with a couple. I myself am somewhere in the middle. My hobby is to get shitfaced and to spazz out on the dancefloor, but this never got me laid. So I had to change gears. if I do want to pick up a girl it indeed can become like a chore, but only because I have to pretend I am a calm man instead of a dancing drunk.

In 108 that will still work

Quote: (09-13-2018 09:10 AM)Irish Wrote:  

Quote: (09-13-2018 07:54 AM)asdfk Wrote:  

Having said that, the $10-20 cover charge and alcohol prices will not be a problem for most members.

Oh you'd be surprised...

My cousin is having her Bday in Leon in two weeks if you are in town,
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Quote: (09-14-2018 02:19 AM)KYT88 Wrote:  

My cousin is having her Bday in Leon in two weeks if you are in town,

Yeah I might be in town - will let you know (shot you a PM)

Irish
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Quote: (09-13-2018 09:10 AM)Irish Wrote:  

Quote: (09-13-2018 07:54 AM)asdfk Wrote:  

Having said that, the $10-20 cover charge and alcohol prices will not be a problem for most members.

Oh you'd be surprised...

I suppose if you are a professional living in the region with a job and a decent salary then the prices won't bother you too much. On the other hand, others who visit Indo because it's cheap, like digital nomads, would have a problem spending $100-200 that's the equivalent of a few nights in a hotel. When I was in Jakarta I had a problem with the prices so I pre drank before clubs, then once inside I'm nursing my drinks and don't get drunk. Unless I can see some opportunities with some girls and decide to invest in a couple more cocktails
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

If you are a foreigner with just a little bit of style and you are not getting laid in jakarta with ease then you should be ashamed of yourself. I fully believe that other poster saying he was smashing through multiples a day. The competition is so beta here. I have noticed this thing where girls are smacking guys in the face. I keep seeing it. It seems like the guy makes a joke or something and the girl smacks him in the face for it. They smack with a little bit of jest but also with some force. Everyone just kinda laughs it off. I would never let a girl hit me. I personally believe in equal rights. And lefts.
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Vancity29 ..Maybe online dating is harder than you think.its not 2012 or 2014 anymore
i told you i was getting hundreds of matches back in 2013 then with the same profile..the market has changed dramatically.now you see mostly prostitutes or attention seekers in tinder. they will reject you if you ask meetup near your location .some of them give their phone nr but when you text/call they are not responsive.the quality is very low.a lot of fatties are members. smartphones has killed the dating market. i still believe its easy if you do daygame or nightgame. but maybe better outside jakarta. most dont even care if you are a foreigner or not. im not lying. i have no reason to. this is the fully honest situation here.women are smarter now than ever. heck even in western europe i was getting easy matches back in 2006-2007 now if i spend the whole day swiping ill only get 1 match per week maximum.every year its getting harder .and its worldwide. why? i think its because of social media.facebook twitter instagram etc. they see their friends going to cool places and dating the coolest guy and they all believe they deserve the same. welcome to the future.technology is not neccasarly good for Men

by the Way Jakarta used to be a spot where old men went to marry young girls. now you barely see this anymore.same in thailand .unless its a prostitute.
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Quote: (09-15-2018 03:54 AM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

Vancity29 ..Maybe online dating is harder than you think.its not 2012 or 2014 anymore
i told you i was getting hundreds of matches back in 2013 then with the same profile..the market has changed dramatically.now you see mostly prostitutes or attention seekers in tinder. they will reject you if you ask meetup near your location.the quality is very low.a lot of fatties are members. smartphones has killed the dating market. i still believe its easy if you do daygame or nightgame. but maybe better outside jakarta. most dont even care if you are a foreigner or not. im not lying. i have no reason to. this is the fully honest situation here.women are smarter now than ever. heck even in western europe i was getting easy matches back in 2006-2007 now if i spend the whole day swiping ill only get 1 match per week maximum.every year its getting harder .and its worldwide. why? i think its because of social media.facebook twitter instagram etc. they see their friends going to cool places and dating the coolest guy and they all believe they deserve the same. welcome to the future.technology is not neccasarly good for Men

Im gonna give you the hard reality. Your tinder profile is not good. Tinder still works great for guys with good photos. As I mentioned before its tough to almost impossible to get 8s and above in most cities but for 6-7 range its continuously performed for me.

My tinder in Jakarta is overflowing with matches. I agree that most are so ugly you cant even consider it but there are for sure bangable girls in the 6-7 range. I have been banging non stop since ive been here and I have put in the bare minimum effort. I been spending my days working in starbucks and throwing out a few invitations in the evening. The girls come to me every time. Most of the girls were 6 range face but with great 8 range bodies. I am not trying to brag believe me. I would not wife up any of these girls but for sport fucking its been great. 100s of matches everyday and every single Tinder girl I have invited out has railed within a few hours. 5 for 5. Most of them have been actually cool university student girls that are not so bad to talk to. 20-29 year old range. The sex has been actually very good with the girls doing everything you want. One even told me she likes to get dominated in bed. Seems to be all of their attitudes so far.

If you are talking about 2006 and 2007 I would also suggest that maybe youre just old now. Maybe your time has passed. Not trying to be rude. Its the hard reality we all must face at some point.
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Vancity29.im not old.im only 32.as for my pictures. its totally normal picture.where in jakarta are you.perhaps we can meetup and chat? PM option is blocked so i dont know how to contact you
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Just PMd you Zam
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Vancity29.i cant reply to your PM.but ive seen it.im close to you yes.just PM me your local number in jakarta or whatsapp nr..that way we can speak in private
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Not sure if this has been answered before, but is staying in Depok or South Jakarta a complete dealbreaker when it comes to getting girls to come to your place? Or is it best to try and stay in a central area?

Also, how's cost of living holding up these days. Can you still get a decent, fully furnished condo with reliable wifi near the central area for under $300-$350?
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

What made you think of Depok, seems an odd choice.

If you are looking at spots outside of Jakarta then Tangerang is a good choice. BSD, Gading Serpong is a lot nicer than the city main. There are a couple of universities there, a lot of people commuting into the city.

You can always then come to the city for Friday/Saturday night but there are plenty of bars and girls that you would never need to come into Jakarta really. $300-$500 much more likely to secure you something pleasant there too.
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

So my Tinder’s been active – sorta. First time I put myself out in the Jakarta scene, I instantly got about 5 to 6 matches within a few hours. All of them responded to chat. 2 were “where you stay?” “you want massage?” types (call girls). The rest we transitioned to WA right away. I try not to waste time, so I escalate quick. They seem to respond well to that. I am 30, biracial (black, white and a dash of in betweens). People generally can’t tell what I am. I don’t look black, no black features except for my hair (induction cut so you can't tell) and skin color, which is not dark but rather tannish. I also don’t look white although I have caucasian features. In the US people will generally assume Hispanic since that’s the box you tend to end up in if you don’t distinctively look black or white.

Of the 4 I asked to join me for coffee, 3 were down, but only 1 materialized. 1 said she had some work to do and sent me a picture of what she was doing. 1 wanted to get together but when she asked when and where, I slacked because I was starting to feel like I was biting off more than I can chew. So I backed off a little for her to chase - she didn’t. Another 1 was very interested, same thing, she wanted to know what time and I said I would let her know. She wasn’t too happy about that and teasingly tried to get me to commit to a time, but I never did. It’s what I usually do. Because I know it’s in a girl’s nature to flake, I make more than one “appointment” all at the same time, kinda like how airlines do. They sell more tickets than they have seats because they know people cancel, and in the rare occasions that everyone shows up…well, it’s an overbooking. Although of course, I don’t book at the same place. In Indonesia though, I’m feeling like I need to change my strategy.

The girl I was meeting kept on asking me to send her a pic of me when I’m at the meeting place. She wanted me to be there first, for some reason. So I did and she said she was on her way. Later I changed my mind and went to another place close by because I felt in case she turned out to be an embarrassment, the other place wouldn’t be too embarrassing. Again, she asks me to send her a selfie. Weird.

She shows up and she’s not the girl in the tinder pictures. Fake pictures. But get this, she was actually much hotter than the girl in the pictures. I never called her out. It didn’t even dawn on me until we parted. She came dressed really nice. Her English was really good - but something weird, she spoke fluently and listening to her you would think English is her 2nd language, how she spoke it with ease. But whenever I spoke, she had a hard time understanding me. She obviously would have preferred to come straight to my place, given how many times she asked me, in different ways, where I was staying. And also when we were having coffee, she was waiting for me to say let’s go to my place - the blind and deaf could tell. I didn’t take her home, however, because I honestly wasn’t feeling it at the time. I was just there to test the waters, although there was always the possibility that she would be luring enough for me to change my mind. But she wasn’t, or I was being too picky. Nice girl though, she even insisted to drop me off, and did.

One thing I’m noticing with Indo girls is that they are much, much more whole in their personality traits than Thai girls, which I have dealt with more. I could easily get a banter going with an Indonesian girl. They are receptive to teasing - they tease back (although to a westerner it could come across as too direct, thus rude, but fun when you know the intension). They are affectionate, and just generally more fun than their SE Asian counterparts. I wrongly assumed that they would be similar to Thai women – they couldn’t be more different, looks and personality wise. Honestly, Thai girls don’t got diddly squat on Indonesian girls from what I can observe. I can actually have a conversation with an Indo girl and find it to be very enjoyable – especially the teasing and banter part. They get it and it bounces back. With a Thai girl, I might as well have a more intelligent conversation with a cat.

Next day I got several more matches. 1 I teased with slight sexual innuendo and she didn’t respond back. 3 never replied. 1 was engaged but not enthusiastic. And 1 was a bit dull and seemed too much of a good girl. I’ve been exhausting my like limits every day, but I swipe left much more than right. I am very picky I’ll admit. Also, I haven’t really gone all out with the matches. I honestly believe if I had, I would have gotten at least 3 meets. No idea how many lays. The 1st one is a definite though. So 4 days on tinder, 15 matches, 1-3 lays? However, I am starting to notice results are dwindling. It’s like each day yields lesser prospects. So I decided to experiment with something. I made another profile. A white guy – let’s call him John. About the same age as me. I didn’t embellish his profile. Kept it very minimalistic, similar to mine. Looks wise, just to play it safe, I chose a picture of someone - off google - who is about 2 points “less” better looking than me. Well...HOE-LEE-DURIAN!! The white God factor is real, alive and kicking! Like, DAMN! I got 11 matches in 1 day and the girls were the ones initiating the conversation. They were actually hitting me up first, eager to get to know me. It wasn’t even simple Hellos but rather thought out, invested comments. Not only that but they were also the ones asking for my whatsapp. And I wasn’t even trying - giving short answers and not asking anything back. If I did volunteer a comment, it would always be responded with “hahahah” - anything I said was funny. Responses came faster, they were more engaged and they were the ones who wanted to escalate - fast! I was overwhelmed! The funny (or sad) part is that I am considerably much better looking than the white guy I put up - at least by western standards. In the US, I know, from experience, that my market value would be much higher than that of John’s. It was a truly eye opening experiment.

Another thing I noticed, going through the list of matches of both mine and John’s is that John’s girls are predominantly hotter - much hotter! A good portion of them are tanner, not dark, but bronzish and definitely curvier, taller, and just sexier all around. Basically, exactly the girls I was looking to get with. While mine were average to less than average looking, a mixture of complexions and look neither Chinese Indonesians nor pure Javanese/native but rather a mixture of both, and a little bit more refined at times – except one who is the epitome of freakydom and loonatry. %0 Chinese Indonesians.

John was definitely getting much hotter girls than me. Lots of them, judging by the pics. Look like they got money too. So more educated? IDK. I’m jealous, I’m not gonna lie. I bet John can get at least 1 fresh “quality” lay a day without lifting a finger. No game needed. Looking at John’s feed right now, almost all matches initiated chat. They are sending hearts, Hi, what’s your WAs? Yay it’s a match!, and creative pickup lines(?) based off what’s on his profile. And if John doesn’t reply – which is most of the time – they follow up with more msgs. It’s crazy!

Almost no matches on my account initiated a chat and the 3-4 that did, half were call girls. Also, about %95 of who John swipes right is a match! I’m guessing the other %5 haven’t got to his profile yet. Vs. only 4-5 for me, before I exhaust my daily limit (free account). And super likes! John gets an average of 6-8 (a guesstimation) super likes a day! Me?...Zero! Not 1 thus far. Another thing is, what’s up with Tinder showing John the hot girls and me mostly 1-4s, very rarely 7s?! When I’m in John’s account, I’m swiping right faster than I can say Damn! Every girl is hotter than the other. I can without a doubt say all the ones that I see on John’s account are 7+ (at least body wise). A good portion of them are 8s. Just absolute hotties. It’s like I’m in a totally different country. While for me, Tinder is presenting me prospects from the bottom of the barrel. I’m sensing a bias/discriminatory(?) algorithm here. I find myself swiping right to %90 of the girls that Tinder shows me on John’s account, while on mine I’m swiping left most of the time! Cold sh*t!
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Yes white God factor is real. Now, you can stop this shit experiment.
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Travel museums all over again.
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Jakarta Datasheet (by Irish)

Indonesia in general took almost no effort to pull 7s all day long , and all night long for that matter. The local girls are really sweet and eager to please , not just sexually but cooking , caring etc.

Back 5-10 years ago it seemed most treated a meetup/date as a marriage interview almost . These days girls are more promiscuous and into sport fucking etc . A lot of "bule hunters" but they were always around. Just seems more prevalent lately.

I never bothered with online game or twitter there. Just went to the mall or even the supermarket and chatted. These days is even easier , as far more girls speak English than they did in years past . Dont be shy and I guarantee you will be crawling in it . Girls here expect the man to approach.
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Well Skyway you are in the right place to become John in just a few weeks. Indonesians often hate their dark skin and spend $$$ on various whitening treatments. So just pop down to one of the many backstreet clinics, a few sessions and a load of Mercury on your face and you can be white John. Enjoy the WGF.
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Quote: (09-17-2018 01:21 PM)Skyway Wrote:  

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wow, what a ride mate, thanks for the entertainment!
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Quote: (09-16-2018 09:27 PM)KYT88 Wrote:  

What made you think of Depok, seems an odd choice.

If you are looking at spots outside of Jakarta then Tangerang is a good choice. BSD, Gading Serpong is a lot nicer than the city main. There are a couple of universities there, a lot of people commuting into the city.

You can always then come to the city for Friday/Saturday night but there are plenty of bars and girls that you would never need to come into Jakarta really. $300-$500 much more likely to secure you something pleasant there too.

Haha. Sounds good to me. So I can basically target uni girls on tinder there and have no reason to go to central Jakarta. How much would a grab or taxi set you back if you wanted or needed to go to central Jakarta?

Also doing some research on visa extensions, wanted to confirm the visa process in 2018. So most Western citizens can land in Indonesia with a visa on arrival and then get it extended in-country later? Is it a one month extension or 3 months?

Thanks all.
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Quote: (09-18-2018 06:29 AM)asiaslayer Wrote:  

Quote: (09-16-2018 09:27 PM)KYT88 Wrote:  

What made you think of Depok, seems an odd choice.

If you are looking at spots outside of Jakarta then Tangerang is a good choice. BSD, Gading Serpong is a lot nicer than the city main. There are a couple of universities there, a lot of people commuting into the city.

You can always then come to the city for Friday/Saturday night but there are plenty of bars and girls that you would never need to come into Jakarta really. $300-$500 much more likely to secure you something pleasant there too.

Haha. Sounds good to me. So I can basically target uni girls on tinder there and have no reason to go to central Jakarta. How much would a grab or taxi set you back if you wanted or needed to go to central Jakarta?

Also doing some research on visa extensions, wanted to confirm the visa process in 2018. So most Western citizens can land in Indonesia with a visa on arrival and then get it extended in-country later? Is it a one month extension or 3 months?

Thanks all.


You get a visa on arrival free of charge if you land in Bali. You can NOT extend the free visa however. If you land in Jakarta you pay $35 for the visa on arrival and it can be extended for an additional 30 days. That is 2 months total.
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I had an interesting time in Jakarta.

Life there consists mainly of shopping centres, nightlife and dating girls. The nightlife is so horrendous that nobody is very motivated to explore the city.

I'm not particularly into Asian girls, I got a huge amount of interest from Badoo and Tinder, most of them I would put in the 5 or 6 category based on my standards. The hottest girls seemed to be in the nightclubs, many of them were even better than I saw in the shopping centres, although many of them were on the older side. For me it was nice to be in an environment where, for a change, girls weren't looking to bleed you dry, many of them had real jobs and were spending a lot on bottles etc, I suppose they work hard and there's not a lot to do in Jakarta apart from shopping or clubbing.

I only took one girl home there, but the girl was nothing like her online dating profile and I regretted it, skinny little bitch with not its, stretch marks, looked like an Aids victim. Ended up getting her to suck me off and that was it.

For me Jakarta is a decent place to stop over for a few days and enjoy the WGF and the attention they lavish on you. As someone else mentioned, I was still getting messages from girls weeks after I left. You could probably find a hot girlfriend there if prepared to invest a little time.
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I am surprised Jakarta doesn't get more clout. Ive been everywhere in SEA and have not seen this much WGF before. Even in Phils. I was in Phils a year ago and I thought that most of the quality girls had such a wall built up to distance themselves from the horrendous bargirls and foreign groupies that it was very tough to meet them. They wrote "no hookups" in their tinder profiles and were a little weird when day gaming. They were so concerned if you were staying along time or just visiting on vacation and gave the 3rd degree to me. There were plenty of low hanging fruit girls around but that got old real quick. I notice the exact same thing in Thailand. Too many guys have broken these girls hearts and they have seen it all.

Jakarta is not like that yet. The educated and more quality girls do not give the 3rd degree and push for meetups right away online. They stare when you see them in person and make for an easy approach. They dont have a wall built up, not scared to be used. They seem to just want to meet because they have not had the chance to meet cool foreigners and dont wanna let the chance pass them by. They come out and are fun and cool to talk to. Very easy going. Good senses of humour. Once you fuck them they become super attached and write all the time to make sure it happens again. If your sex style is rough they will be very happy to have finally found an alpha who can fuck them properly. Most guys here are so Beta Im sure they ask permission before every position change. I have been very impressed with jakarta
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Are you talking about Chinese Indonesians or local Indonesians?
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So basically it's a bit of a shithole, which makes most tourists go away, so your SMV skyrockets. Gotta admire the dedication to quality pussy in this thread. Totally my kind of place, and I've already started pipelining. Especially this gorgeous 19 year old model/student has really caught my attention, and we're chatting regularly. She lives in West Jakarta, so I'm thinking about finding a place there.

The thing is accomodation on a monthly basis seems hard to find. Here in Cebu I can easily get contracts for 2-4 months and 1 month deposit at barely above the yearly rates. In Jakarta it seems like everyone wants a 1 year lease and 2 months deposit. I'd like 1-4 months and 1 month deposit. I can pay around $500-1000/month for something nice, preferably one of the old colonial style buildings in West Jakarta. Also some place with a lower than average chance of getting killed for bringing (new) girls home. AirBnb is good for days or weeks, but gets expensive for months. I've tried searching the forum a bit and Facebook groups with no good luck. Any tips?
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Quote: (09-19-2018 09:54 AM)Lechon Wrote:  

So basically it's a bit of a shithole, which makes most tourists go away, so your SMV skyrockets. Gotta admire the dedication to quality pussy in this thread. Totally my kind of place, and I've already started pipelining. Especially this gorgeous 19 year old model/student has really caught my attention, and we're chatting regularly. She lives in West Jakarta, so I'm thinking about finding a place there.

The thing is accomodation on a monthly basis seems hard to find. Here in Cebu I can easily get contracts for 2-4 months and 1 month deposit at barely above the yearly rates. In Jakarta it seems like everyone wants a 1 year lease and 2 months deposit. I'd like 1-4 months and 1 month deposit. I can pay around $500-1000/month for something nice, preferably one of the old colonial style buildings in West Jakarta. Also some place with a lower than average chance of getting killed for bringing (new) girls home. AirBnb is good for days or weeks, but gets expensive for months. I've tried searching the forum a bit and Facebook groups with no good luck. Any tips?

message the airbnb hosts if theyre interested in a discounted long term booking, generally they're happy to offer a decent discount to have their place rented out for a few months and remove the hassle of dealing with leaving/coming guests etc.

And generally nobody gives the slightest shit if you're bringing girls home or not so no need to worry about that. Only if its bottom of the barrel tinder garbage from the kampung you might have an issue (which to be fair is a staple of most guys who come to jakarta)

Irish
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Life there consists mainly of shopping centres, nightlife and dating girls. The nightlife is so horrendous that nobody is very motivated to explore the city

Ooops, I meant traffic
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