[Swagger]

How do you set the stage differently with women you are intersted in just being friends with benefits as supposed to girls you want to have a relationship with? I have noticed that girls who want a relationship with me seem to hold out having sex early on than the other (but again no hard and fast rule). So how do you guys convey early on that you are in for a good time and nothing else? Do you still take her out on dates, because once you do that, she sees herself in relationship mode and there is no turning back. So any pointers?

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(12-03-2008 09:28 AM)Swagger Wrote:  

How do you set the stage differently with women you are intersted in just being friends with benefits as supposed to girls you want to have a relationship with? I have noticed that girls who want a relationship with me seem to hold out having sex early on than the other (but again no hard and fast rule). So how do you guys convey early on that you are in for a good time and nothing else? Do you still take her out on dates, because once you do that, she sees herself in relationship mode and there is no turning back. So any pointers?

Set and manage expectations from the very beginning.
And I mean during the approach, not right after the 1st lay.

You have to be the fun, carefree, sexual guy. A little cruel, a bit sweet, and undependable in every regard. This way she knows what she's getting into.

It's not easy to backpedal a chick who thinks she's on the GF track

[speakeasy]

Don't see her more than once a week. Don't return phone calls or text messages right away.

[Roosh]

I actually treat both types of girls the same. If you treat a relationship girl different she will pick up on that and may back off.

[Swagger]

This is the sequence of events i often encounter:

Same Night Lay:
1) Approach
2) DHV
3) Tease+ BT Spike
4) Venue change
5) Tease+ BT Spike+ lil comfort
6) Logistics
7) massive LMR
8) Possible lay

Once this happens, I have the option of having her as a Fuck Buddy or a potential LTR. In this scenario I have the liberty to choose.

However, most of the time it goes soemthing like
1) Approach
2) DHV
3) Tease +BT+ Spike
4) Comfort
5) Some social constraint..She needs to leave for XYZ, fat UG friend CB etc etc
6) Soild # close for Day2


Now, once you get her to meet you for Day 2) 9/10 times you are leading the interaction, choosing the venue, being a dominant male. this role I have found encourages her to see you as a potential BF & does not lead to casual sex.
How can I have the option of having casual sex and nothing else without explicitly stating it early on?