[Mrs. Chocolate]

This is not a question, is just something that I experienced last sunday. I was at a friend's house, let's call people by L. P. and so on...
She lives with people from abroad in a nice neighborhood here in SP. We were in 5 B' girls playing UNO + 3 guys chatting, laughing, we named this event as Afternoon Games, two of them were B' boys and the other was Mexican I guess.
In the meanwhile, my friend P. who is going to a belly dance class heard a Turkish song and started to dance suddely. And asked me to dance with her, but I couldn't and she started to teach me a bit. We were laughing about my atempts and missings although I was doing okay.
The thing is the B' boys one was with his GF, the other was single even bothered about the sexy belly dance since that is completely expected to girls dance in a sexy (not bitchy) way. The Mexican was amazed, his eyes where sparkling like a star... For us we were just joking around, smiling not trying to get any attention, it was fine get up and dance if you want to. Any girl do that right? this weekend I learnt it is WRONG!
In this point I understood what Brazilian Sex Appeal was. We just are. Not even try to be something. It's so natural.
What do you think about it?

[Khaleth]

(03-15-2011 04:36 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

This is not a question, is just something that I experienced last sunday. I was at a friend's house, let's call people by L. P. and so on...
She lives with people from abroad in a nice neighborhood here in SP. We were in 5 B' girls playing UNO + 3 guys chatting, laughing, we named this event as Afternoon Games, two of them were B' boys and the other was Mexican I guess.
In the meanwhile, my friend P. who is going to a belly dance class heard a Turkish song and started to dance suddely. And asked me to dance with her, but I couldn't and she started to teach me a bit. We were laughing about my atempts and missings although I was doing okay.
The thing is the B' boys one was with his GF, the other was single even bothered about the sexy belly dance since that is completely expected to girls dance in a sexy (not bitchy) way. The Mexican was amazed, his eyes where sparkling like a star... For us we were just joking around, smiling not trying to get any attention, it was fine get up and dance if you want to. Any girl do that right? this weekend I learnt it is WRONG!
In this point I understood what Brazilian Sex Appeal was. We just are. Not even try to be something. It's so natural.
What do you think about it?

Are you're friends from the same town Footloose was shot in??! Haha
That doesn't sound wrong at all.

[speakeasy]

About 2 years ago exactly, I was in a hostel in Santiago, Chile my first night. There was a blonde white Brazilian girl from the south who was there. She was so damn hot and sexy. We all had a little party that night and she put on the Brazilian music and was shaking her ass around. All the the guys in the hostel were just mesmerized.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

@speakeasy: That's what I'm talking about. Did she look like a attention whore? I guess not. The sexiest thing (or one of the most) that you ever seen? Maybe. but the thing is: B' boys are used to this behavior and don't botter as much as foreigners. They do like, of course. But a girl can tell the difference. The foreigners seem to be more mesmerized than B' boys. So mesmerized they almost look drooling on their laps.
Once I told a history about some Americans that I met in Floripa completely crazy about B'girls bikinis, while their friends were wearing Olympics (and boring black) bath suits.

[Moma]

Latin women seem to be naturally sexy without being sluts. I think Roosh's Brazil compendium summarised it. I mean from my experience in DR, sexing a few women who may or may not have been pros *whistles nonchalantly*, I never felt like I had a slut on my hand.
So I think it's a natural sexiness.

Now you have women in North America, who have never received a penny for their services that just reek of slutdom.

So Mrs Chocolate, you do make a valid point. However, send me a picture of yourself (privately) in a bikini so I can confirm my scientific evaluation of the Brazillian culture.

Discretion is assured.

[Roosh]

With Brazil's foot economically stepping into the first world, the Brazilian girl sex appeal has peaked and will decline over the coming decades.

Soon enough a B girl will think "sexy dancing" is not a good way for a career-minded woman educated in the university to act. Same with wearing high heels.

[DanDeLaCruz]

(03-17-2011 01:48 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

With Brazil's foot economically stepping into the first world, the Brazilian girl sex appeal has peaked and will decline over the coming decades.

Soon enough a B girl will think "sexy dancing" is not a good way for a career-minded woman educated in the university to act. Same with wearing high heels.

True, as economies grow and prosper, the dating environment gets worse for men... But as it stands today, Brazil really is one of the best places for men, and the women from Brazil are usually laid back, fun, and feminine... So enjoy it while it lasts...

[Mrs. Chocolate]

I totally disagree.
B' Girls like fashion and has their own vanity. Our country values beauty and appearence a lot. In some companies the dress code for women FORBIDS them to wear nothing than shoes hith heels. SERIOUSLY. They will keep studing and being raised to be feminine for long. Even the least feminine of them are more feminine than abroad.
I guess with the grow and prospering the society will demand inteligence AND a good package. The competition is high. To have a beautiful and smart female in my company seems more interesting than just inteligent.
I read in a magazine a while ago a survey who asked what women in higher positions would like to have in their companies.
Some topics:
* Hairdresser and manicures ready to attend in case of an unschedruled meeting
* Baby care
* Benefits to be used to buy clothes and shoes (some companies already have it)
* More equiped restrooms with tampax, makeup cleaner and so on.

@Moma: No pictures for you. I already have one around the forum.

[speakeasy]

(03-17-2011 05:15 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

I totally disagree.
B' Girls like fashion and has their own vanity. Our country values beauty and appearence a lot. In some companies the dress code for women FORBIDS them to wear nothing than shoes hith heels. SERIOUSLY. They will keep studing and being raised to be feminine for long. Even the least feminine of them are more feminine than abroad.

Sounds like fucking paradise.

[Veni Vidi Pimpi]

Ms. Chocolate, estou concordando com vc.

I think Brazilian women will keep their 'flair'. I am in SP now and I am very impressed by how even educated career girls handle themselves. Even older women keep themselves up. I would have to see a radical change in Brazilian culture for this to backslide.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

Our colonization process is different than yours despite the fact that American culture (moviess, song, tv) is so present in life.Remember, everyone is in shape on TV. And people here will tend to copy this. Not many girls exposed to Western behavior. But what will comes worst is that women will be even more and more demanding.

[Excelsior]

(03-17-2011 01:48 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

With Brazil's foot economically stepping into the first world, the Brazilian girl sex appeal has peaked and will decline over the coming decades.

Soon enough a B girl will think "sexy dancing" is not a good way for a career-minded woman educated in the university to act. Same with wearing high heels.

I don't think we have to worry about other countries getting to America's level of degeneracy with regards to the dating market.

I really think the problems detailed so thoroughly by you and so many other men are a unique result of American culture. American feminism is a rather special beast, distinct from what is found in much of the rest of the world. Here we see many unusual problems(higher quotients of masculinity amongst women, schizophrenic/bi-polar attitudes towards sexuality, etc, etc) that aren't as common in other places, even those with a strong quotient of feminism.

These problems have been created by America's distinct Puritan past, one originating in and shared most closely by the UK(a country often cited here as having the most similarity to the US and its dating/feminism issues) but not by many other countries. The sexual schizophrenia and lack of femininity amongst the women, for example, are the most obvious side effects of puritanism and they are the source of most of our gripes regarding modern American dating and American Feminism.

To reach the same level of degeneration, other cultures would have to evolve in precisely the same way(same puritanism and cultural mores, same environment, etc) for several centuries. Obviously, this isn't going to happen.

In other words, don't worry about American feminism taking over the world. It takes a lot more than just exposure to its tenets on TV to truly re-create it, as its roots are very deep and come from a distinct religion/cultural trend. Some side-effects will be seen as American influence spreads, but the resulting degeneracy in most other cultures will probably never be quite as complete as it is here.

EDIT: Like Mrs. Chocolate just said, a different history/process of colonization will prevent Brazil from ever reaching the same levels of degeneration.

[Roosh]

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I really think the problems detailed so thoroughly by you and so many other men are a unique result of American culture.

I thought the same. Then I stepped foot onto Scandinavia.

[Pepini]

(03-21-2011 06:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I really think the problems detailed so thoroughly by you and so many other men are a unique result of American culture.

I thought the same. Then I stepped foot onto Scandinavia.

Roosh get the fuck out of Scandi and go to some Eastern Europe secondary city.

Between Brazil and EE I would choose Brazil.

[Brian]

I second what Pepini has to say - GTFO of Denmark and go to an EE city. Doesnt have to even be a secondary city. It will be a fraction of the cost w/a much higher concentration of hot chicks

[Roosh]

What's the rush?
I've endured much worse.

[Luckystar]

(03-21-2011 10:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

What's the rush?
I've endured much worse.

Geesh, how bad is it, Roosh? I've mostly heard good things about Copenhagen.

[Luckystar]

(03-21-2011 07:15 PM)Brian Wrote:  

I second what Pepini has to say - GTFO of Denmark and go to an EE city. Doesnt have to even be a secondary city. It will be a fraction of the cost w/a much higher concentration of hot chicks

Any specific EE cities you recommend?

[Excelsior]

(03-21-2011 06:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I really think the problems detailed so thoroughly by you and so many other men are a unique result of American culture.

I thought the same. Then I stepped foot onto Scandinavia.

My(admittedly less informed) sense is that the US(particularly hotspots like DC, NYC, etc) is still worse off in the long run.