[Sonsowey]

So it seems like from people's reports, El Salvador has a lot of cute chicks and is not an expensive destination.

It seems kind of similar to Colombia in that it has a violent past which still gives it a bad reputation, even though these days it isn't particularly violent, especially in reference to its past.

Therefore people who would go to, say, Costa Rica or Panama, may not go to El Salvador out of unfounded fear.

Setting it up to be one of the best destinations in Central America.

I just looked up round trip tickets. From NY you can get a round trip ticket for 500-600 dollars...

So how are the chicks? Do they compare favorably to Ticas and Panamenas? How is the ease compared to their neighboring countries.

Basically, is El Salvador the Colombia of Central America?

[Dantes]

I'm interested in checking out El Salvador and have the same questions. There isn't a lot of info on the forum on El Salvador. Nice thread. I look forward to anyone who has some solid info.

[polymath]

(08-17-2014 03:29 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

I'm interested in checking out El Salvador and have the same questions. There isn't a lot of info on the forum on El Salvador. Nice thread. I look forward to anyone who has some solid info.

You could be the one. All you need is a week and a few hundos for the flight, hotel, and drinks.

No need to eat.

Personally I think the best spots are the proverbial unturned leaves. But then again, sometimes there's a reason nobody goes...


From http://travel.state.gov/content/passport...rning.html :

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The Department of State continues to warn U.S. citizens that crime and violence levels in El Salvador remain critically high. This Travel Warning supersedes the Travel Warning dated August 9, 2013, and includes updated information on crime and security in El Salvador.

Tens of thousands of U.S. citizens safely visit El Salvador each year for study, tourism, business, and volunteer work. There is no information to suggest that U.S. citizens are specifically targeted by criminals; however, crime and violence are serious problems throughout the country. Although Salvadoran police statistics show a decrease in annual homicides during 2012 and 2013, the homicide rate has been rising steadily since August 2013. From mid-February through April 2014, El Salvador has experienced an average of almost 10 people killed per day - the highest homicide rate since 2011. Since January 2010, 31 U.S. citizens have been murdered in El Salvador including a 9-year-old child in December 2013. During the same time period, 335 U.S. citizens reported having their passports stolen, while many others were victims of violent crimes.

Typical crimes in El Salvador include extortion, mugging, highway assault, home invasion, and car theft. Recently, there have also been more cases reported in which criminals observe and follow customers making withdrawals at ATMs and banks, then rob them on the road or at a residence. Some victims unwittingly wander into gang-controlled territory and are killed, normally at night. Assaults against police officers have risen, and public shootouts are not uncommon. Armed robberies of climbers and hikers in El Salvador’s national parks are regular occurrences, and the Embassy strongly recommends engaging the services of a local guide certified by the national or local tourist authority when hiking in back country areas - even within the national parks. The National Civilian Police (PNC) has a special tourist police force (POLITUR) to provide security and assistance to visitors. It has officers located in 19 tourist destinations.

A majority of serious crimes are never solved; only 6 of the 31 murders committed against U.S. citizens since January 2010 have resulted in convictions. The Government of El Salvador lacks sufficient resources to properly investigate and prosecute cases and to deter violent crime. El Salvador’s current criminal conviction rate is five percent. While several of the PNC’s investigative units have shown great promise, routine street-level patrol techniques, anti-gang, and crime suppression efforts are limited. Equipment shortages (particularly radios, vehicles, and fuel) further limit their ability to deter or respond to crimes effectively.

El Salvador, a country of roughly 6 million people, has, according to Government of El Salvador statistics, thousands of known gang members from several gangs including Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) and Eighteenth Street (M18), and gang members are quick to engage in violence or use deadly force if resisted. These “maras” concentrate on narcotics and arms trafficking, murder for hire, carjacking, extortion, and violent street crime. In 2013, the number of people reported as missing in El Salvador increased by 93 percent. Authorities believe a significant number of disappearances are related to gang activity, since many of the missing were in gangs or were friends or family members of gang members. Police sources claim that the families of gang members often face the same risks of being killed or disappearing as the gang members themselves.

Extortion is a particularly serious and very common crime in El Salvador. Some extortion attempts are no more than random cold calls that originate from imprisoned gang members using cellular telephones, and the subsequent threats against the victim are made through social engineering and/or through information obtained about the victim’s family. U.S. citizens who are visiting El Salvador for extended periods are at higher risk for extortion demands. Hitting its peak a few years ago, extortion rates have dropped in the last two years. However, recent reports show an increase in the level of violence associated with extortion cases. Many extortions are not reported by victims for fear of reprisal and lack of faith in the ability of the government to protect the victims.

U.S. citizens should remain alert to their surroundings, especially when entering or exiting their homes or hotels, cars, garages, schools, and workplaces. Whenever possible, travel in groups of two or more persons. U.S. Embassy security officials advise all U.S. government personnel not to walk, run, or cycle in the unguarded streets and parks of El Salvador, even in groups, and recommend exercising only in gyms and fitness centers. Avoid wearing expensive jewelry, and do not carry large sums of money or display cash, ATM/credit cards, or other valuables. Avoid walking at night in most areas of El Salvador, and do not walk alone near beaches, historic ruins, or trails. Incidents of crime along roads, including carjacking, are common in El Salvador. Motorists should avoid traveling at night and always drive with their doors locked to deter potential robberies at traffic lights and on congested downtown streets. Travel on public transportation, especially buses, both within and outside the capital, is risky and not recommended. The Embassy advises official visitors and personnel to avoid using mini-buses and regular buses and to use only radio-dispatched taxis or those stationed in front of major hotels.
The location and timing of criminal activity is unpredictable. We recommend that all travelers exercise caution when traveling anywhere in El Salvador. However, certain areas of the country demonstrate higher levels of criminal activity than others. Salvadoran "departments" (a geographic designation similar to U.S. states) with homicide rates higher than the national average include:

Cuscatlan
La Libertad
La Paz
La Union
Santa Ana
San Miguel
San Salvador
Sonsonate
Usulutan

In addition, of the 262 municipalities in El Salvador, the following are experiencing chronic, high levels of reported criminal activity:

Apopa
Conchagua
Ilobasco
Ilopango
La Libertad
La Union/Tamarindo Beaches
Lourdes-Colon
Mejicanos
San Martin
San Miguel
San Salvador
Santa Ana
Sonsonate
Soyopango
Usulutan
Zacatecoluca

Nothing is off limits, but know before you go.

[buja]

You have to take these Federal govt. warnings with a grain of salt.

If they used the same standards domestically that they used for other countries, they'd have to make identical reports about Detroit, St. Louis, New Orleans, Chicago, etc.

Is El Salvador as safe as Switzerland or Disneyland? Of course not.

Take reasonable precautions and you'll have no higher risk of death than driving on an Interstate highway.

El Salvador's rate of firearm death is slightly higher than Detroit.



I felt safe walking around San Salvador because there's always an armed security guard nearby.

[HankRearden]

Check out my signature for a report on El Salvador.

Honestly, it was a good time and the girls were decent, but I think there are many better places to hit up before El Salvador.

[Onto]

Curiously that US State Department report left out important info about the quality of the chica's.

[Hedonistic Traveler]

I think the safety aspect is a little overblown. It definitely has dangerous areas, but in tourist areas you don't have to worry about anything, unless you're retarded, but than you should probably worry everywhere you go.

I've only done three countries in Central America, but I'd rank it as El Salvador >> Nicaragua >>>> Guatemala as far as local girls go. Based on everything I've heard and read things only improve once you get to Costa Rica and Panama. With several South American countries(Col/Ven/Arg/Bra) being on a completely different level.

Also this is a little off topic but what airline were you looking at? I've flown DC to CA a few times and usually paid in the 450-500 range, if you look around for a while I'm sure you could get cheaper than the 500-600 you mentioned. At that price you can probably make it to Colombia anyways.

[Merenguero]

(08-20-2014 03:12 PM)Hedonistic Traveler Wrote:  

Also this is a little off topic but what airline were you looking at? I've flown DC to CA a few times and usually paid in the 450-500 range, if you look around for a while I'm sure you could get cheaper than the 500-600 you mentioned. At that price you can probably make it to Colombia anyways.

Taca was always the best bet from D.C. to Central America and I never remember paying over $500.00, but I believe prices have increased at least a little bit.

[Hedonistic Traveler]

(08-20-2014 04:04 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 03:12 PM)Hedonistic Traveler Wrote:  

Also this is a little off topic but what airline were you looking at? I've flown DC to CA a few times and usually paid in the 450-500 range, if you look around for a while I'm sure you could get cheaper than the 500-600 you mentioned. At that price you can probably make it to Colombia anyways.

Taca was always the best bet from D.C. to Central America and I never remember paying over $500.00, but I believe prices have increased at least a little bit.

Yeah I flew down on Spirit this summer, it was just $420. That only works if you're packing really light though. I did DC to Managua a few years ago for $450ish though, can't recall the airline though. I guess that might be up to $500 by now though.