[20Nation]

(08-18-2014 08:38 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 09:12 AM)20Nation Wrote:  

Haiti is close. Nowhere in Europe is even as close to as easy for white guys as the Phils. Thailand is pretty easy too, lowest LMR out of any place i have ever been.

Is Haiti as easy as DR?

Easier. But there is less game involved because it's a really poor country. But the biggest asses I have ever seen were here.

DR in comparison to Philippines. If you put in the same amount of work (knowing Spanish) you will bang half as many girls in DR as you would in the Philippines.

[pitt]

(08-18-2014 01:41 PM)20Nation Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 08:38 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 09:12 AM)20Nation Wrote:  

Haiti is close. Nowhere in Europe is even as close to as easy for white guys as the Phils. Thailand is pretty easy too, lowest LMR out of any place i have ever been.

Is Haiti as easy as DR?

Easier. But there is less game involved because it's a really poor country. But the biggest asses I have ever seen were here.

DR in comparison to Philippines. If you put in the same amount of work (knowing Spanish) you will bang half as many girls in DR as you would in the Philippines.

Damn, that's really good news man, thanks.

Actually thinking about it, all the haitian girls I fucked in DR were really easy. I also met one when I was in NY that was pretty easy too. I am hitting Haiti real soon, thanks man.

[birdrepellent]

Jakarta has a disproportionate amount of deformed chicks also. A quarter of the chicks you flick through online are clearly a product of inbreeding. The Phil's wins hands down for me.

[Brodiaga]

(08-18-2014 05:19 PM)birdrepellent Wrote:  

Jakarta has a disproportionate amount of deformed chicks also. A quarter of the chicks you flick through online are clearly a product of inbreeding. The Phil's wins hands down for me.

That's right, never go there guys!

[Bushido]

I was in Jakarta for 2 days and getting laid was too easy if anything. When I went to Dragonfly, girls were approaching me. Easy game.

In the meantime, I will take the opinions of guys with less than 20 posts and zero reps with a pinch of salt.

[Brodiaga]

I mean really, fuck Jakarta, it's full of inbred ugly girls. You've just been told by another expert that the US, particularly Vegas, is the easiest place to get laid, so there you have it, poosy paradise!

[echo park]

(08-18-2014 09:46 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

I was in Jakarta for 2 days and getting laid was too easy if anything. When I went to Dragonfly, girls were approaching me. Easy game.

In the meantime, I will take the opinions of guys with less than 20 posts and zero reps with a pinch of salt.

bit of a dumb post. i've lived here a few years, you visited for 2 days. people can trust who they like.

without responding to everyone's posts, all i'll say is that i've met a few white tourists who've had positive experiences here, but the vast majority do not (again, from my experience wrt to who i've met), or at least they are content with sleeping with 5s from tinder. to each there own i suppose.

if i was your average white tourist with money to travel elsewhere & no bahasa, i'd go elsewhere. that's completely discounting other non-sexual reasons for travelling, in which case indonesia is an incredible place.

[Bushido]

^^ By all means, drop a thread with some info on Jakarta. I'd like to read it.

I was mostly referring to the other guy who unsurprisingly for himself banned. As it is though, you've said that Jakarta is "difficult for tourists" but I got my flag there in 2 days during which I was working most of the time. Other expats I spoke to also said they were doing very well, so I'm surprised to read your opinion. By all means, drop some data and back it up for us.

Without wanting to be a dick, you might want to slow your roll a little with the confrontational talk until you've been here a while. This place is like a bar that is open for all, but mostly full of regulars. If you're going to make your opinions known, then probably better to "get to know us" first, as it were.

[dodol]

I think echo park is only trying to temper the expectations of other members. It's not necessarily about tourists vs people staying long term... just for average guys, they're probably not going to have as much success as dreambig or Irish did. Maybe the two of you are above average in game or looks...? I personally never had much success in clubs in Jakarta (certainly never had girls approaching me) and resorted to online stuff.

[libertad1312]

I can just second dreambig and would love to read more insights about Jakarta. I have been following the Indonesian thread and spend some time there and it seems that almost everybody is doing better there, then in other Asian countries. Of course the average guys are still happy with average girls, but isnt it the same in every country?

[Irish]

I'll be throwing together a Jakarta datasheet for sure.

Giving it till after this weekend, as I am going over once again to tear the place yet another new asshole

[InternationalPlayboy]

I personally prefer pale girls with an angular face and thin frame. Is there anywhere in Asia that is relatively easy for these type of girls. Seems like in SE 3rd world asia these type of girls are actually more bitchy then the ones you would find in the first world ones. Especially since these type of girls are usually relatively wealthy or perceived to be. I can bang them, but takes a while, would like a place where a ONS is more common.

2nd tier cities in China? Vietnam? (although I read takes some work there to bang).

[ballybally]

Since this turned into Jakarta thread, how do girls there compare with Filipinas looks-wise ?

I am so over Filipinas, their genes seem fuckedup ... So hard to find 7+ and I am not sure if 8s even exist in this place (just for my taste, I am sure others see it differently)

[Irish]

(08-25-2014 06:18 AM)ballybally Wrote:  

Since this turned into Jakarta thread, how do girls there compare with Filipinas looks-wise ?

I am so over Filipinas, their genes seem fuckedup ... So hard to find 7+ and I am not sure if 8s even exist in this place (just for my taste, I am sure others see it differently)

Haha, Jakarta theme thread it is then. I'm just back from a mental weekend there.

Indo chicks are definitely my favourite type of asian. IMO Jakarta/Indo chicks are superior to Filipinas in both looks and personality. Generally I prefer their look as they seem to have a more oriental or 'persian' look about them and there are definitely more 9s and 10s kicking about in my experience from the two capital cities (tho couldnt tell you what its like in the more rural areas). The downside of indo chicks however is a lot of them can look a little 'blokey'.

Of my interactions with Indos and Filipinas I find Indos both more feminine and fun. There seems to be more of the Indo socialite party girl types which is my favourite kind (tho I know not to everyone's tastes) and although they tend to be slightly harder nuts to crack and can be bitchier they have better wit & banter about them. They tend to be more confident and dont suffer from the irritating shy giggliness which you can still get with Flipflops (tho not as bad as some other SE Asian girls).

If you are looking to swing for a proper knockout chick in a high end club then go to Jakarta, if you are looking mow through a pile of 6s in a short space of time on a 2 week poosy safari vacation then the Philippines is your place

[Kaebs]

Preety shocked by what i've heard on indo chicks --> while I was in the phils, most indo chicks I met there were either 3s,4s or 5s

[Biologist]

(08-21-2014 04:56 AM)Irish Wrote:  

I'll be throwing together a Jakarta datasheet for sure.

Giving it till after this weekend, as I am going over once again to tear the place yet another new asshole

Indonesia has been on my radar for a long time now. Looking forward to your datasheet.

[ThePrinceOfDixie]

(08-18-2014 09:46 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

I was in Jakarta for 2 days and getting laid was too easy if anything. When I went to Dragonfly, girls were approaching me. Easy game.

In the meantime, I will take the opinions of guys with less than 20 posts and zero reps with a pinch of salt.

I never pulled from dragonfly but I remember on my last night out, I got to drink for free from these dudes out there.

Also I too was surprised at people hating on Jakarta the high end talent is definitely accessible. Maybe people were trying to run an asshole/cocky western game which goes over very badly in JKT. I remember being pretty faced one night and I had two glasses of that blue sprite vodka stuff from X2 thrown on me (good times).

[OnlyMarryInTajikistan]

All of Europe has low ROI, even proclaimed havens like Poland and Scandinavia. The ROI in the so-called "easy" European destinations is reasonable by most PUAs' standards, but we are still talking between 20-50 approaches for a lay depending on your level of game, on average.
The Former Soviet Union brings higher quality, but it is the toughest game in the world. The ROI there will be about 30-70 approaches for a lay on average, again depending on your level of game. They will also usually take 2-5 dates to lay, so it is high quality at a steep price.

There are locations outside of Europe that offer better ROIs, but they are underexplored by most full-time PUAs for the simple reason that the women there are less attractive or less pleasant. In the Philippines you can have an ROI as low as one lay in 10 approaches. Most other places like this are in Africa, so it can be a field day if you like black girls. Just remember to wrap up.

[ballybally]

(08-26-2014 03:19 PM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote:  

All of Europe has low ROI, even proclaimed havens like Poland and Scandinavia. The ROI in the so-called "easy" European destinations is reasonable by most PUAs' standards, but we are still talking between 20-50 approaches for a lay depending on your level of game, on average.
The Former Soviet Union brings higher quality, but it is the toughest game in the world. The ROI there will be about 30-70 approaches for a lay on average, again depending on your level of game. They will also usually take 2-5 dates to lay, so it is high quality at a steep price.

There are locations outside of Europe that offer better ROIs, but they are underexplored by most full-time PUAs for the simple reason that the women there are less attractive or less pleasant. In the Philippines you can have an ROI as low as one lay in 10 approaches. Most other places like this are in Africa, so it can be a field day if you like black girls. Just remember to wrap up.

LOL bullshit.

More like 90-110 COLD APPROACHES if you are ~7 in looks and have fairly decent "game" in the west. And here in Phils depending on what kind of girls you are approaching it could be as low as 20. Probably over 2000 approaches behind me and I've "gamed" with majority of local PUA nerds back in the day... Pretty sure in those numbers.

It's not question of game or looks, most of girls are sexually unlivable at any given time (have boyfriend,period,shitty day...)

[TonyManero]

If you are a tall white blonde male... basically anywhere Outside Central/Northern europe

[Kaebs]

(08-26-2014 11:35 PM)TonyManero Wrote:  

If you are a tall white blonde male... basically anywhere Outside Central/Northern europe

This holds true for especially for the phils, I remember seeing guys in cebu running cocky western game and STILL pulling.

[OnlyMarryInTajikistan]

(08-26-2014 11:24 PM)ballybally Wrote:  

(08-26-2014 03:19 PM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote:  

All of Europe has low ROI, even proclaimed havens like Poland and Scandinavia. The ROI in the so-called "easy" European destinations is reasonable by most PUAs' standards, but we are still talking between 20-50 approaches for a lay depending on your level of game, on average.
The Former Soviet Union brings higher quality, but it is the toughest game in the world. The ROI there will be about 30-70 approaches for a lay on average, again depending on your level of game. They will also usually take 2-5 dates to lay, so it is high quality at a steep price.

There are locations outside of Europe that offer better ROIs, but they are underexplored by most full-time PUAs for the simple reason that the women there are less attractive or less pleasant. In the Philippines you can have an ROI as low as one lay in 10 approaches. Most other places like this are in Africa, so it can be a field day if you like black girls. Just remember to wrap up.

LOL bullshit.

More like 90-110 COLD APPROACHES if you are ~7 in looks and have fairly decent "game" in the west. And here in Phils depending on what kind of girls you are approaching it could be as low as 20. Probably over 2000 approaches behind me and I've "gamed" with majority of local PUA nerds back in the day... Pretty sure in those numbers.

It's not question of game or looks, most of girls are sexually unlivable at any given time (have boyfriend,period,shitty day...)

You are doing something terribly wrong if you still have those numbers after 2000 approaches. The model is fluid, it needs to change as you get new reference points. I assume you are from the Anglosphere, which presents some of the easiest game in the wolrd (it an R-selected society where women have few hangups about sex). In the Anglosphere a beginner will get a lay anywhere between 100-200 approaches. Intermediate should go down to 50-100. Advanced should be 20-50. This is, again, on average, you can obviously have a lucky streak and lay 2 girls from 2 approaches.

[Mentavious]

The Phil's can't be beat for any male.

[ballybally]

(08-26-2014 11:35 PM)TonyManero Wrote:  

If you are a tall white blonde male... basically anywhere Outside Central/Northern europe

Agreed

(08-27-2014 03:52 AM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote:  

(08-26-2014 11:24 PM)ballybally Wrote:  

(08-26-2014 03:19 PM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote:  

All of Europe has low ROI, even proclaimed havens like Poland and Scandinavia. The ROI in the so-called "easy" European destinations is reasonable by most PUAs' standards, but we are still talking between 20-50 approaches for a lay depending on your level of game, on average.
The Former Soviet Union brings higher quality, but it is the toughest game in the world. The ROI there will be about 30-70 approaches for a lay on average, again depending on your level of game. They will also usually take 2-5 dates to lay, so it is high quality at a steep price.

There are locations outside of Europe that offer better ROIs, but they are underexplored by most full-time PUAs for the simple reason that the women there are less attractive or less pleasant. In the Philippines you can have an ROI as low as one lay in 10 approaches. Most other places like this are in Africa, so it can be a field day if you like black girls. Just remember to wrap up.

LOL bullshit.

More like 90-110 COLD APPROACHES if you are ~7 in looks and have fairly decent "game" in the west. And here in Phils depending on what kind of girls you are approaching it could be as low as 20. Probably over 2000 approaches behind me and I've "gamed" with majority of local PUA nerds back in the day... Pretty sure in those numbers.

It's not question of game or looks, most of girls are sexually unlivable at any given time (have boyfriend,period,shitty day...)

You are doing something terribly wrong if you still have those numbers after 2000 approaches. The model is fluid, it needs to change as you get new reference points. I assume you are from the Anglosphere, which presents some of the easiest game in the wolrd (it an R-selected society where women have few hangups about sex). In the Anglosphere a beginner will get a lay anywhere between 100-200 approaches. Intermediate should go down to 50-100. Advanced should be 20-50. This is, again, on average, you can obviously have a lucky streak and lay 2 girls from 2 approaches.

Hope I don't get banned for linking to another "pua" site(just delete link if that's not allowed) but http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/ge...re-my-odds

This guy is as legit as it gets and his numbers agree with mine almost to the point. Most members there (guys that are actually pulling hot girls and posting picture proofs) have around the same numbers.

[Cheetah]

Quote:

(Yesterday 06:35 AM)TonyManero Wrote:
If you are a tall white blonde male... basically anywhere Outside Central/Northern europe

Agreed

How much is really into this? How much difference does it make if you are a novelty or not lookwise in Europe?