[the Thing]

(08-07-2014 01:43 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  

Last 5 girls I have banged without a rubber on. Funnily enough these girls don't say anything at all about a condom. It's like it doesn't even exist to them. They just stick it in.

I've banged these girls in a timespan of 3-4 months with one being a virgin so i don't think she carries anything and the last one was last night.

When should I get a test? I'm thinking in 2-3 weeks?

After contracting HIV, most people will turn positive in 4 weeks, average being 22 days.

If you show symptoms (most likely after 2 weeks, earliest 1 week, no earlier) you'll probably test positive after a few days. Look for skin rashes around your chest, and night sweats (the kind of night sweat that wakes you up and force you to change the sheets) as other symptoms are very hit and miss. You should note that symptoms are in no way an indicator of if you caught it or not.

You can (and should) get tested. If you can find one, a 4th generation HIV combo test (HIV 1/2 antibody + p24 antigen tests) are %99.8 accurate after a 2 week window. The p24 protein is detectable way earlier than the antibodies.

If you're that concerned, HIV polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests show how much virus you have in your bloodstream (if you have any) in 3 to 11 days after exposure. It's a bit expensive, and not very specific so it's not used as a diagnostic tool (it's rather used for positive patients to adjust their treatment regimen) but for you it'll either be undetectable, or it'll show >100,000 copies per milli litre in which case you can assume you're positive.

In either case you shouldn't be worried that much. Raw vaginal sex as the male is the lowest risk group. But that being said anyone can win the lottery so get tested.

Source: I worked as a project engineer for an ELISA test system manufacturer

[Unchained]

(09-15-2014 01:30 PM)Americas Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 12:00 PM)Sharkey Wrote:  

I raw dog regularly, and can say the only thing I worry about is herpes. I had a scare last week. I met a girl in a bar while I was out with a homie. She apparently wasn't drinking.. I was pretty drunk, but hide it well. Anyways less than two hours later we are in my car and she's sucking my dick. A couple nights later we go out. Towards the end of the date we're making out and she's ready to go. And then I noticed a big ass busted (enter any worries here) a little above her lips, about half way to her nose she had covered up with make up. After a little over a week, no symptoms so I'm thinking it was just a big zit she popped but damn I started keeping her at arms length for the duration of the evening. I spent the week reevaluating my life decisions. I cut off contact but decided I need to make a serious effort to try and do a better job wearing condoms, screening sluts, and not drinking as much when I go out.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but chances are if you have been rawdogging a lot of chicks you already have herpes.

What's the big deal about herpes? Most people have it. And condoms don't really protect much with herpes anyways considering the herpes is on the entire pubic area not just the pussy/dick.

That means everytime you have sex, condom or not, there's a chance of getting it.

And what is herpes anyways? Some bumps. Same thing as a coldsore literally. Also if you've had herpes you become immune to it eventually and no longer show signs.

I used to be scared of STDs until I looked them up. Only thing I'm scared of now is HIV and pregnancy.

Other than that, pretty much every STD is minor.

[LeoneVolpe]

Not trying to be a concern troll here, it's your dick you do what you want -- but keep this story in mind:

Last month, I made an appointment to go see a doctor about a stubborn case of athlete's foot. Since I was a new patient, he wanted to do his due diligence and order a full blood panel and urine screening to make sure everything's in order. Today I had my followup appointment, and I'm pleased to say I'm healthy as a horse.

As the doctor's reading off my negative STD results, he goes into a story about how he had to tell one of his patients she has HIV yesterday. Now I know doctors aren't supposed to reveal other people's medical information, but it's not like he told me her name or anything. It was more along the lines of, "I'm glad to see you're being safe and taking care of yourself because..." type of thing.

Evidently, this girl admitted to her doctor she's sexually active with seven guys right now. Now I'm sure this won't come as a shock to anyone reading RVF, but it's a sobering reminder to wrap it up. As great as it feels to raw dog, it's certainly not worth risking HIV and nowadays with the way these chicks are, every encounter is like playing Russian Roulette with your cock.

[Roardog]

(10-26-2016 05:13 PM)Unchained Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 01:30 PM)Americas Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 12:00 PM)Sharkey Wrote:  

I raw dog regularly, and can say the only thing I worry about is herpes. I had a scare last week. I met a girl in a bar while I was out with a homie. She apparently wasn't drinking.. I was pretty drunk, but hide it well. Anyways less than two hours later we are in my car and she's sucking my dick. A couple nights later we go out. Towards the end of the date we're making out and she's ready to go. And then I noticed a big ass busted (enter any worries here) a little above her lips, about half way to her nose she had covered up with make up. After a little over a week, no symptoms so I'm thinking it was just a big zit she popped but damn I started keeping her at arms length for the duration of the evening. I spent the week reevaluating my life decisions. I cut off contact but decided I need to make a serious effort to try and do a better job wearing condoms, screening sluts, and not drinking as much when I go out.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but chances are if you have been rawdogging a lot of chicks you already have herpes.

What's the big deal about herpes? Most people have it. And condoms don't really protect much with herpes anyways considering the herpes is on the entire pubic area not just the pussy/dick.

That means everytime you have sex, condom or not, there's a chance of getting it.

And what is herpes anyways? Some bumps. Same thing as a coldsore literally. Also if you've had herpes you become immune to it eventually and no longer show signs.

I used to be scared of STDs until I looked them up. Only thing I'm scared of now is HIV and pregnancy.

Other than that, pretty much every STD is minor.

Do you have herpes? Have you had an outbreak?
I don't have it but I've a couple of friends who caught it and that shit is not fun. You're a fool if you think it's just "some bumps".

[Unchained]

(10-26-2016 11:26 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:13 PM)Unchained Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 01:30 PM)Americas Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 12:00 PM)Sharkey Wrote:  

I raw dog regularly, and can say the only thing I worry about is herpes. I had a scare last week. I met a girl in a bar while I was out with a homie. She apparently wasn't drinking.. I was pretty drunk, but hide it well. Anyways less than two hours later we are in my car and she's sucking my dick. A couple nights later we go out. Towards the end of the date we're making out and she's ready to go. And then I noticed a big ass busted (enter any worries here) a little above her lips, about half way to her nose she had covered up with make up. After a little over a week, no symptoms so I'm thinking it was just a big zit she popped but damn I started keeping her at arms length for the duration of the evening. I spent the week reevaluating my life decisions. I cut off contact but decided I need to make a serious effort to try and do a better job wearing condoms, screening sluts, and not drinking as much when I go out.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but chances are if you have been rawdogging a lot of chicks you already have herpes.

What's the big deal about herpes? Most people have it. And condoms don't really protect much with herpes anyways considering the herpes is on the entire pubic area not just the pussy/dick.

That means everytime you have sex, condom or not, there's a chance of getting it.

And what is herpes anyways? Some bumps. Same thing as a coldsore literally. Also if you've had herpes you become immune to it eventually and no longer show signs.

I used to be scared of STDs until I looked them up. Only thing I'm scared of now is HIV and pregnancy.

Other than that, pretty much every STD is minor.

Do you have herpes? Have you had an outbreak?
I don't have it but I've a couple of friends who caught it and that shit is not fun. You're a fool if you think it's just "some bumps".

I don't have it. I used to be afraid of it though because I realized a condom might not protect against it so everytime I fuck there's a chance of getting it.

But I've talked to someone who had it and it didn't seem that bad and no point in being afraid of something that a condom might not stop. Why live in fear?

And honestly yeah it's probably not fun but it doesn't sound like the end of the world either. Stop fearmongering. I'm more afraid of accidentally knocking a chick up than pretty much any STD.

[Roardog]

(10-26-2016 11:45 PM)Unchained Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 11:26 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(10-26-2016 05:13 PM)Unchained Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 01:30 PM)Americas Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 12:00 PM)Sharkey Wrote:  

I raw dog regularly, and can say the only thing I worry about is herpes. I had a scare last week. I met a girl in a bar while I was out with a homie. She apparently wasn't drinking.. I was pretty drunk, but hide it well. Anyways less than two hours later we are in my car and she's sucking my dick. A couple nights later we go out. Towards the end of the date we're making out and she's ready to go. And then I noticed a big ass busted (enter any worries here) a little above her lips, about half way to her nose she had covered up with make up. After a little over a week, no symptoms so I'm thinking it was just a big zit she popped but damn I started keeping her at arms length for the duration of the evening. I spent the week reevaluating my life decisions. I cut off contact but decided I need to make a serious effort to try and do a better job wearing condoms, screening sluts, and not drinking as much when I go out.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but chances are if you have been rawdogging a lot of chicks you already have herpes.

What's the big deal about herpes? Most people have it. And condoms don't really protect much with herpes anyways considering the herpes is on the entire pubic area not just the pussy/dick.

That means everytime you have sex, condom or not, there's a chance of getting it.

And what is herpes anyways? Some bumps. Same thing as a coldsore literally. Also if you've had herpes you become immune to it eventually and no longer show signs.

I used to be scared of STDs until I looked them up. Only thing I'm scared of now is HIV and pregnancy.

Other than that, pretty much every STD is minor.

Do you have herpes? Have you had an outbreak?
I don't have it but I've a couple of friends who caught it and that shit is not fun. You're a fool if you think it's just "some bumps".

I don't have it. I used to be afraid of it though because I realized a condom might not protect against it so everytime I fuck there's a chance of getting it.

But I've talked to someone who had it and it didn't seem that bad and no point in being afraid of something that a condom might not stop. Why live in fear?

And honestly yeah it's probably not fun but it doesn't sound like the end of the world either. Stop fearmongering. I'm more afraid of accidentally knocking a chick up than pretty much any STD.

I'm not fear mongering nor advocating being "afraid" of STD's. I am advocating sensible caution and reasonable preventative measures.
I think it's irresponsible to treat STD's like they're a common cold, it's not doing individuals or the wider community any favours. Every time we use antibiotics to treat diseases we could have easily prevented we're adding another straw to the stack of making diseases immune to that antibiotic.

I'm not trying to have a go at you, I just think people need to treat these diseases with a certain level of seriousness.

[Phoenix]

Yeah trivializing it just isn't on. Rawdogging players are the No.1 STD vector outside the gay community. So fuck that "fearmongering" bullshit off. Women are dumb, they aren't going to protect themselves from being petrie-dished so it'd be nice if dudes were refraining from stepping in shit and then gleefully stomping around the house, so to speak.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

(08-11-2014 05:06 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(08-10-2014 08:10 AM)RURALGAMER Wrote:  

Honestly a good condom isn't so bad....

Durex is the ONLY brand I'll wear.....

Durex is my least favorite brand.

I recommend everyone use condomdepot.com (I have zero financial interest in them, they've just provided GREAT service and I've used them for years).

1. You can buy one of their sampler packs and try a bunch of types.

2. They review most condoms and they have specifications and other relevant information for each type. This can help you find a condom that is sized better for you.

3. The Crown Skinless Skin condom is phenomenal. I buy them in bulk to make it cheap and because I know I'll use them. The feel versus any other condom I've tried, even the "thin" brands is so damn nice. Every few times I use them I have to check to make sure the thing is still on (because it feels so much closer to raw than any other condom I've used).

Why pay 400-500% more per condom at retail versus buying them in a reasonable quantity and always having them available and it only costing you a quarter or less per condom for very high quality? Fuck that!

Agree with AO. Durex (and Trojan and other OTC Walmart options) are worthless [unless you wouldn't get the bang without stopping by the gas station on the way..]

Only caveat I would add here is that I have found the Crown Skinless don't mesh so good with a juicy pussy. Almost too much lube or something. I don't know, I'm not a scientist. For the slip n slide bitches I prefer the Kimono brand if you can get them in your size. They run pretty snug.

[Eddie Winslow]

(08-07-2014 04:31 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  

i bought condoms last night and placed it in my drawer. this girl was suking my dick, i was about to grab the condom when she jumped on top of me and started riding me... i was like... oh well. next time i'll use it. now im paranoid as fuck. all these bishes i banged are clearly promiscuous. one even grabbed my dick within 5 min of meeting...

what is wrong with these girls? isn't it hte girls duty to tell a man to use a condom? guys always get caught in the moment with this.

Last year I banged a girl I met in front of a Five Guys after a night out. She was cheating on her boyfriend, who was actively dying of cancer. She had already told me about the child she had from a previous relationship, so she had more than enough red flags to convince me a condom was an excellent idea. I made it very clear to her I thought it'd be best to use one and she agreed.

After a few minutes of fucking, she is really getting into it, and starts riding me like a crazed animal. I feel her hand playing with my balls and then sliding up towards the base of my dick. Then without saying anything, she pulls the condom off in one quick motion and sits back down as quick as she can. WTF???

I was super pissed, but I was too deep into the deed to stop. I quickly finished and busted all over her back, came to my senses, and verbally reamed her a new asshole. She apologized and I forgave her. Later she told me that she had had three abortions already, and her best friend had more than ten. I got tested shortly afterwards and everything was fine, thank you Jesus.

I'm almost positive women are more careless than (straight) men with this stuff even though they have way more at risk health wise. They just don't give a fuck, and have no shame.

[XPQ22]

^ Damn.

[subterfuge]

I'm assuming you meet these girls on tinder?

[Jnx]

So ya'll are telling me I should stop eating out these one night stand bar sluts and then fucking them raw?

Naaaa.

[doc holliday]

(10-27-2016 01:34 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Yeah trivializing it just isn't on. Rawdogging players are the No.1 STD vector outside the gay community. So fuck that "fearmongering" bullshit off. Women are dumb, they aren't going to protect themselves from being petrie-dished so it'd be nice if dudes were refraining from stepping in shit and then gleefully stomping around the house, so to speak.

That's the best description I've ever heard of the spreading of STDs. Seriously, being cavalier about rawdogging and STDs is so beyond stupid. STD rates are rising at a scary rate and its because of this mentality from both men and women. Syphillis and Gonorrhea are nasty,scary diseases which are making an aggressive comeback due to new antibiotic resistant strains. If a chick isn't concerned about safe sex, then you damn well better be. Or maybe fuck chicks who give more of a shit about it. If you value your health and well being that is.

[Rap17]

Dude takes months to detect
Wait a while and take another test

[Roardog]

(10-27-2016 01:34 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Yeah trivializing it just isn't on. Rawdogging players are the No.1 STD vector outside the gay community. So fuck that "fearmongering" bullshit off. Women are dumb, they aren't going to protect themselves from being petrie-dished so it'd be nice if dudes were refraining from stepping in shit and then gleefully stomping around the house, so to speak.

This.

(10-27-2016 09:44 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

I'm almost positive women are more careless than (straight) men with this stuff even though they have way more at risk health wise. They just don't give a fuck, and have no shame.

100% agree.
I always use condoms but most girls I've banged have seemed perfectly happy for me to hit it raw if I so wished. I can count on one hand the number who have asked if I have condoms.
It's fucked, you'd think they'd be more careful or aware of their own sexual health.
What really gets me here in SEA is that most of these girls aren't even on birth control so apart from STD's pregnancy is a real possibility.

[Sourcecode]

The other week I sent two rounds with a chick. Switched condoms for each round.
Third round I forgot to put a new one one..And I nutted in her...

She has a boyfriend..
But she says she's on the pill.
I'll see her again this weekend. Should I go raw again..

[VforVlad]

Ordered a package test on STDcheck dot com yesterday and will go in monday.

If everything comes clean...I'm gonna take a good break and sit on it.

A part of me just feel like dropping the game and telling every girl I meet (including structuring my online dating profiles) that I'm clean and I'm not sticking my penis into anything until she shows me a recent STD test.

In fact i might do that with tinder just for fun. "Swipe right if you're ready to show the most recent STD test, proving that you're disease free. Not here for hook up's...i don't wanna catch somethin"

[elRey]

I just lost my driving license for going 40kph over the limit. I thought "fuck! the cops got me, how unlucky am I?". But in reality I was speeding all the time and slowing down when I saw cops and knew where the cameras were. It was only a matter of time before I got pinged. The same is true when you're rawdogging promiscuous girls. One of these girls is going to have something, serious or not, and if you play the numbers game long enought you might get a disease...or worse, knock her up.

I think we've all taken some risks that in hindsight were incredibly stupid.

And I'm sure we will all keep taking those risks to some degree. The game is dangerous.

But it's still wise not to fuck up your future. My guiding principles (which I try to follow) are:

1) she better be fucking hot (8+) and therefore worth the risk (not that getting the disease is worth it, but whatever... you understand)
2) confirmed clean and on the pill - can't be 100% sure of course, but asking direct questions + details helps make sure
3) ALWAYS pull out - for the life of me I can't understand the dumb motherfuckers who nut inside girls, so stupid. I've still done it hehe

If you're only fucking a girl every year or two then maybe who cares. But if you're plowing through 2-4+ girls a month then treating it like a joke is stupid.

As fun as this all is, there are huge downside risks which are quite sobering to consider.