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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Ok so this is one year on from the first video that went viral

He got 200 no's out of 200 is the US. In Europe not only does he get laid but what is interesting is how different the reactions are.

People are way less offended and way more amused by the question. What does that tell you about he differing attitudes towards sex that europeans and americans have?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/...ll-3992763
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

2/200 (1 was a whore?). The first one dicked him, it just statistics.

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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

If this was something that worked, all guys would do it. Haha.
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Interesting to read in the article, an attractive woman did the same thing and her success rate was 50%.
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Quote: (08-05-2014 02:00 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote:  

He got 200 no's out of 200 is the US. In Europe not only does he get laid but what is interesting is how different the reactions are.

People are way less offended and way more amused by the question. What does that tell you about he differing attitudes towards sex that europeans and americans have?






The Average or actually good-looking guy like this one has more instant attraction value than in the US.

It is a bit of a fuck-up, since we know that the guy got massive amounts of IOIs by the girls and opened them up quite nicely. Complimenting their looks that openly right up front is usually not such a good move. But then instantly following with a Hailmary is just such a low probability, that it is not worth it.

Nightgame in Clubs or at Streets with plenty of drunk girls cruising around would have raised the number from 0/200 to 5-10/200 in the US and in Europe to maybe 10/200 depending on the area he was in.

That guy with sufficient Game would be fucking 10-20 or maybe even 30/200 which is a good cut.

He could also use this Apocalypse-Opener a la Heartiste (3 questions), which is way more effective. And he should not leave her even if he gets a NO. The girl must leave, because chances are that she will still fuck him, if she does not go away instantly.
The Apocalypse Opener works only to a good degree if you are Alpha enough and you don't ask immediately:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/1...se-opener/
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

I'm sure we got a statistics guy here who can chime in to say that his 1 success in Europe vs his 0 success in America based on his small sample size is not statistically significant, meaning we can not conclude anything from his experiment except that he's annoying and contributes to the negative American stereotype that we don't have class, culture, etc.
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Quote: (08-05-2014 03:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'm sure we got a statistics guy here who can chime in to say that his 1 success in Europe vs his 0 success in America based on his small sample size is not statistically significant, meaning we can not conclude anything from his experiment except that he's annoying and contributes to the negative American stereotype that we don't have class, culture, etc.

Agree with what an earlier poster said about higher success doing this at night. It is notable that every single approach he filmed was day time.

Bearing in mind what you wrote about Icelandic culture. Doing this at 4am in Iceland when all the bars close = different results?
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

0.5% of a time works every time in europe.
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

American girl was the only one that threw her drink on him. All you need to know about the differences really.
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

That guy comes across as a goofy chode (i.e. terrible fashion sense, submissive body language and vocal tone, generally un-masculine presence).

I'd be really curious to see how different the results would be if 200 Apocalypse openers were done by a guy with good looks, fashion, fitness and most importantly game (body language, holding frame, vocal tone, general confidence).

I'd still expect him to get blown out the vast majority of the time, but wouldn't be surprised if a well-put together player could get 10-15 girls to say yes instead of one. I would bet that simply maximizing a man's attractiveness and utilizing the slightly less direct three line AO (i.e. "hello, what are you doing later, do you want to come home with me?" vs. "do you want to have sex with me?") would make a huge difference. Would be an interesting experiment at least.

[size=8pt]"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.”[/size] [size=7pt] - Romans 8:18[/size]
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Quote: (08-05-2014 03:46 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

American girl was the only one that threw her drink on him. All you need to know about the differences really.

Which was assault and should have been arrested for.
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#12

The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

I would bet if he just asked for phone numbers he would have gotten nearly 100 out of 200.

I wonder if the girl actually ended up fvcking any of those guys she asked.
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Quote: (08-05-2014 04:53 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

I would bet if he just asked for phone numbers he would have gotten nearly 100 out of 200.

I wonder if the girl actually ended up fvcking any of those guys she asked.

probably not, she is dating the guy who asked the women if they would have sex with him. he obviously has some game to be able to pull that chick, (who is probably an 8.5 in my opinion)
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Actually an austrian guy tried this in Germany in 2005 and banged 5/100. I can't find an english version but you can use google translate on the german one.

Here's the original article:
http://sassen.org/kurt-molzer-wollen-sie...-schlafen/

Here's google translate:

100 women - one question: "Would you sleep with me" motto: What really attracts the Viennese charm with German women? The Viennese journalist Kurt Molzer went - for safety's sake, armed with a pack of Viagra - in Munich, Berlin and Hamburg on the street and asked strangers women, whether they wanted to have sex with him. Previously, he said, "Excuse me, that I broach you, but I find you beautiful and incredibly erotic" That's it..

1 Sandra Bullock-type, Hamburger Bahnhof. Go for it. But it is not. I freeze as a Grizzly: racing heart, wet hands, dry throat, fear! Break the trial from, moving into the city, buy me a hip flask and fill it with vodka. Vodka flushes the fear out of the body as the dirt from the rain trickle. Vodka does not smell.

2 Goose Market Passage, a woman is like a cathedral, great, noble, approximately 40 She shows me the bird. Stay in the passage, increasing slightly the Alk-dose.

3 Sharp blonde angel in transparent dress summer: "No, I want nichhhh! What is that anyway? "

4 Bespectacled brunette, low-cut T-shirt, about 30 Stunned, she laughs or cries it? "You want me actually totally kidding?"

5 Bored Black hair, early 40s: "Make for the every woman as" I: "Yes, you are already the fifth."

6 Underground, at the elevator, gucci Women in fear: "If you come closer to me, I cry aloud" - "I do not want to kill, ma'am, I just want all usually sleep with you" She fled up the stairs!. .

7 Back in daylight, Exotin, almond eyes, the end 20: You do not understand me, "Sorry" - "Miss, you are so beautiful and erotic?. Do you want to sleep with me? "-" What did you say, bloody bastard "?

8 At the pedestrian crossing, woman with black pageboy, early 30s: "Why do not you go straight to a prostitute"?

? 9 Karstadt - department store cosmetics department, vulgar blonde with high heels: "Shall I pass the question to my husband, you perverted crap Bock" is uncomfortable. But this is a mission. Persevere.

10 Stationery, they in stretch pants, mid-20s: "Who are you, anyway" - "I am a gentleman from Vienna" She: "Good for you and bye."!

11 food department, mature and attractive woman with cucumber in his hand: "And otherwise it's good for you, young man?"

12 frozen food, secretaries type: "Must that be right now," I: "Not necessarily now, but still," but is nothing..

13 bread shelf, tightened Pippi Longstocking in the wrap skirt. Look at me aghast, goes without a word of it.

14 Sweets, Black hair in a linen dress, early 30s: "No, thank you" She says so unimpressed, as if I had offered her a brochure Jehovah's Witnesses..

15 household goods, slightly narrow-minded lady with plaid blouse, great legs, around 40: "You are probably not quite right in the head"

16 Hi-Fi department, brünetter curly head, mid-20s, "How are you for it" - "Good," I say. "A little too well, I would think."

17 magazines, bobbed hair with Marlene Dietrich * pants, mid-20s: "Nice compliment, but the rest, well ..." wars their phone number.

18 Intercontinental lobby, redhead, pantsuit, mid-30s, intense eye contact, "My God, that there are men who so believe in themselves," I play the philosopher: "I am in the world, to get everything 'I. wonder if she lived here. "Yes." Me: "You excite me" - "me too, my goodness," but you must still be a short meeting... As long as I could wait just yet. When she returns, she asks, "You're not evil, and you will do anything to me" - "I will do you nothing but good," We climb the elevator and go to her room?.. After an hour I leave the Temple of Love. I have drunk from the cup of lust, I'm immortal!

19 ins next »hours the hotel," Atlantic, lobby, woman with braid, late 30s, determines the mother of three lovely children: "No need"

20 airport bar, two women. I speak to the prettier. Both laugh broke up, my chosen one shakes his head.

21 Departure Lounge, Business Woman with Briefcase, shimmering tights, glasses, early 30s: "This is stupid now, my plane is equal to".

22 arrivals area, white blonde Schwedinnentyp, mid 30 Go easy on wordlessly and leave me here are stupid.

23 redheads in flower dress, bright green cat eyes and big breasts, to the 40 "It does not work for women."

24 schoolgirl type with blue skirt and pigtail, mid-20s: "You can be happy that I will not cut it down!"

25 Brasil bar, pretty brunette, late 20s, already quite a list. Immediately says yes, plus indecent things. We say goodbye to her friend. Half an hour later we are with her. In the living room cabinet are miniature skulls. Number 25 was a sad-demonic lover.

26 Berlin, Café am Kurfürstendamm, bombshell at the next table, end 20: "Thanks for the compliment, but cometh my friend."

27 A, which looks like Franzi van Almsick, only older, with miniskirt and tight T-shirt: "Find it a bitch!"

28 A with dark blond hair to the Po, small and delicate, in jeans and sneakers, mid 30's, "You Spin well"!

29 A with platform shoes and red toenails, early 20s: "Well I never! But that costs 100 euros with me. "Back thanks.

30 A in white summer dress, brunette, early 30's: "You should have asked me a month ago. Now I have a boyfriend. "

31 early-forties, would be happy to meet only a few times with me before she sleeps with me. I say, "It's against my religion."

32 Sporty model, midriff-baring T-shirt, early 30s Would like because her boyfriend has cheated. But does not dare.

33 In Japanese, intellectuals, silk dress, black framed glasses, End 30 Will no quick adventure.

34 Café Einstein, Blondie, early 30s, looks to me. Do not trust me to their table. Drink vodka again. Can not do it anyway. Wait until they pay, they speak to outside. You: "I am glad, beautiful, yes, why not," In her bedroom is an empty condom pack..

35 Department Store of the West (KaDeWe), mulatto woman, early 20s, do not get me. English is not well. Unique hand signals I would rather not make. But to live here.

36 blonde with perm and high heels. She has a beautiful tooth gap as Vanessa Paradis, 20 middle: "Did 'ne Meise, type" you is not good to fuck?.

37 beauty woman with lush stem and a short skirt. "Nah, you're too thin," Too bad.

38 woman with cigarette in mouth, what does my dream puberty Kim Wilde: "I can piss myself."

39 Young Black hair, long pink fingernails and lots of gold jewelry, the top 20: "So what I did not need."

40 Dark brown average woman with leather skirt, late 30s: "You would not think that you are such a pig!"

41 Mature Silberblick beauty. "Something does not ask you a lady" - "What do you ask a lady" - "You will hopefully learn more?«.

42 black-haired, blue linen dress, top 40: "No, you're wasting your time," That's what I do here obviously..

43 metro station, blond curly hair with blue eyes like the most beautiful summer sky, the top 20: "Nah, I do not like Austrians."

44 Shoes, reddish blonde temptation in jeans, top 20: "Something is never happened to me, sorry, I'm too fast."

45 metro station, sad woman with a pale complexion type, ordinary short hair, mid 20 are briefly considered: "Did I hear right? Nah, thanks. "And on.

46 Petite beings, denim skirt, mid-30s, "Yeah, sure, right here" Was only in jest, but wanted to date me?.

47 cobra, great body, tight dress, perhaps 40: "No, no, but here goes with a hidden camera."

48 Attractive BBW in costume, heavily made up, do not immediately get to mid 30 Will, know first.

49 Cool blonde with baseball cap and sneakers, the top 30: "I thought, so what it's only in the movies" Say from me..

50 hair like an Australian bush fire, deep cleavage, nice round butt, mid-30s, "No." I:. "Please" She: "No," I: "Why not?" You: "So stop".

51 blood Young blond thing, model quality, maybe not even 20 but already guaranteed 16 Shakes his head wordlessly.

Page 52 head end 20, "I can imagine, but we would have to arrange to meet only once more," Does not count..

53 Tanned Bodybuilding, slightly masculine impact, angular facial features, the top 30: "Go away!"

54 Older model, gray strands, culottes. "They're naughty, but very attractive," Wish me a nice day.

55 pout, deep neckline, mid-20s: "I could think about," Will arrange to meet only.. As I said, does not count.

56 Komische Oper, Foyer, about 40-year-old in evening dress, apparently with friend here. "I'm going to definitely not sleeping with you. But you may also enter your telephone number to me. "

57 Riva Bar, Berlin-Mitte, black-haired brush in the slotted skirt 30 end: "I'm not into men."

58 Victoria Bar, Pony blonde with chin piercing end 20: "Thank you, no need."

59 Green Door bar, brunette with a thick necklace, rock, late 30s: "Am I in the wrong movie" I: "No, Erotic program" Will not..

60 Paris bar, intellectuals with short hair and endless legs, the end 30: "So I'm just never been asked, I would have to try it," We have tried it once.. In her apartment, Kant road. At breakfast, I embrace it and think of number 61st

61 Munich, pedestrian zone, approximately 30 * year-old with her hair, costume: "I think my friend would not find it so great."

62 bookstore, beauty with perm, top 40: "Right now it's all bad" - "Later" - "even worse".?.

63 Large slender woman with aristocratic features, black trousers, white blouse, mid-40s: "I feel harassed by you."

64 means Pretty brown haired with a severe side parting: "Very flattering, I'm not more than a drink with you."

65 Strenger Short Hair type with giant earrings and full shopping bags, round butt, mid 30's, "No thanks."

66 blood young, pale, beautiful. Lascivious look, a transition as a pelvic exercise: "No".

67 subway, brunette in backless sundress, End 30 Busty, bigger butt, "Well look here!"

68 subway, Sonja Kirchberger--Double: "You have now said very nice, but I'm going steady."

69 subway, brunette, Roman nose, mid-20s: "Happens a not all day. I think for you is the routine. No, I do not want. "

70 subway, woman with briefcase, early 40s: "Now I'm speechless," you will call me, but has not yet ge * reports!.

71 In Dallmayr delicatessen, Rehaugenschönheit in costume, late 30s: "You did a bet! Not with me. "

72 Beauty at the bank counter, tight T-shirt, knee-length skirt, mid-20s: "I'm sorry, but I'm busy."

73 pout in the North Sea, the end 30 of the poor falls almost the cod from the mouth: "Am I the same on TV"?

74 workers in a cleaning shop, striped sweater, mid-30s: "How would it be if people get to know times"?

75 beer garden, next to me at the table, naughty freckled face, 20 to 25: "No, You look like Cyrano."

76 lawn in the English Garden, half-naked brown haired with glasses and book, "disturb".

77 Lobby at the Park Hilton Hotel, mature Schwäbin with a lot of make-up: "You could like me, but my husband is the same."

78 Leopold Street, Wildcat in leather pants: "No, you look like a Turk" Stay still in the street..

79 Dream Body in white linen pants, midriff-baring T-shirt, tall, blonde, 25-30: "You kidding me," We'll just go have a drink..

80 Brown-haired, older model in Capri pants, see-through blouse, "I'm really sorry for you, but since I'm the wrong person."

81 Alternatively inspired her mid-thirties with short hair and sandals. Somehow, sexy, somehow very naughty: "Idiot!"

82 blonde mane, sun hat, long pants, top 30: "Now I am totally speechless," Will just get away from me.

83 Elegant woman with lots of costume jewelry, very attractive, mid-40s. "That's not the fine English way"

84 blonde, late 30s, costume, glitter jewelry, handbag, squeezes black Porsche. I follow and stop it. Tell my Balzspruch. "Have it unfortunately in a hurry."

85 Roma Bar, Cleopatra-type in red skirt. "For such a saying I'm much too sober« - »When can I stop by again" you.? "No, no, please no more."

86 Maximilian street, Bavarian blon * of Vollblutweib with buxom forms, packed with shopping bags, End 30 sound of laughter, nothing else.

87 Odeon Square, maturity in stretch dress: "An honest answer to an honest question: Yes." She wants to two finely prefer equal to bed with me, but I'm starting suddenly. Forecast from me but one track is too ripe. The whole thing somewhere limits.

88 Residenzstraße, Almsünde with braids, in costume, "Good joke, you're on TV"?

89 Marienplatz, redhead in asymmetrical summer dress, the 40 "has what your saying, but he is to me directly" - "I'm just being honest" - "And unfortunately I'm married"...

90 subway, tomboyish in linen pants, mid-30s: "That's never happened to me. Somehow nice but strange. "Want nevertheless agree with me because they find me attractive.

91 subway, slightly vulgar blonde in tight jeans and transparent blouse, top 30 "Spinner" Lief somehow better. Let's see what's coming. 'm Almost at the finish.

92 subway, reputable, pants, blouse, you end 30 is bright red and whispers, "I am the embarrassing, please listen to it," Do her the favor, I'm not a monster!.

93 Lech Thaler bar, blond Prada model, end 30: "Well so what; I have to teach you manners well! "We are on first-name soon. Then I insist: "Well, you sleep with me" - "And I'll sleep with you, Casanova, you" number 93, it has suddenly in a hurry!. We get into her Saab, on the way to her house she runs over two red lights.

94 milk bar in the entertainment district Kunstark East, sweet girl. She does so, as they would not understand anything because of the music. She understood every word, definitely.

95 Milk Bar, Dancing Queen, glittering blouse, mini skirt, top 20: "No, I just want to dance. I also find your pickup line not so great. "

96 Central Station, line at the ticket counter, attractive woman in her early 40: "About your compliments I'm very happy! But do you mean can not be serious, what did you say? "-" Dead serious I mean what I said there. "-" Well, then we arrange to meet some games. "

97 Central Station, in the Segafredo bar, serious lady with Hairband, about 40:. 'You did not say nice, "arrange Only times. Make an appointment. I can not hear it.

98 post office, opposite the train station, great slim model with long red hair, mid 30's. "Thank you for the nice compliments, but I'm married"

99 Hertie department store, grocery department, Tanned in mini skirt, blonde, hot, mid-20s: "I'm sorry, that's too plump".

100 pedestrian zone, 08/15 face, but the body! Unbelievable. These shorts, light blouse, top 30: "Have you been drinking," I do not understand;? that the vodka was long ago.
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Quote: (08-05-2014 03:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'm sure we got a statistics guy here who can chime in to say that his 1 success in Europe vs his 0 success in America based on his small sample size is not statistically significant, meaning we can not conclude anything from his experiment except that he's annoying and contributes to the negative American stereotype that we don't have class, culture, etc.
The issue is he never established a baseline on the american side since he never had a success. Because of this, as you said, we can't conclude anything with his 1/200 success. Assuming a binomial distribution, the standard deviation is roughly 1 and a 95% range of approximately 0 to 3.

If we had at least 1 success on the american side, we could at least say how many times more likely he is to get a success.

Even if it was significant, which it isn't, you could only say something about that location which is probably not representative of the whole country. However, there are time of day, day of week, day of month affects that im sure the guy isn't controlling for.
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The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Top level guys like Paul Janka and Krauser have claimed about 2.5% of their daygame opens are ultimately fruitful. So the difference between bad game and expert game will take you from 1 in 100 (0/100 in USA) to 2-3 out of 100.

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Quote: (08-06-2014 03:02 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Top level guys like Paul Janka and Krauser have claimed about 2.5% of their daygame opens are ultimately fruitful. So the difference between bad game and expert game will take you from 1 in 100 (0/100 in USA) to 2-3 out of 100.

1 in 40 in London or New York?

What's the average time for the approach, 2-5 minutes?
What's the density of targets?

You could probably get a new chick *everyday* alternating between union square and Washington square park on about four to five hours of work. Warm weather assumed

WIA
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Quote: (08-06-2014 03:02 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Top level guys like Paul Janka and Krauser have claimed about 2.5% of their daygame opens are ultimately fruitful. So the difference between bad game and expert game will take you from 1 in 100 (0/100 in USA) to 2-3 out of 100.

Krauser is at 1/20 right now - so 5/100, but he goes for young women in the prime mostly. Depends on the Game and the amount of preselection you use. Some of the top guys have reported rates of 40% number-close. Besides 100 or even 200 is hardly representative. I have had high percentages of 30% or even 40% with 20 approaches and then zero for the next 30. And I am at best at intermediate level.

That guy above in Austria was approaching Milfs and women in their early 40s while being in his 30s. If you added Milfs (until age 42,43), then Roosh and Krauser would be way way above 2,5-5/100 lays. Also the guy approached sometimes 5s and even 4s, which most Players would never do.
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Quote: (08-06-2014 03:02 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Top level guys like Paul Janka and Krauser have claimed about 2.5% of their daygame opens are ultimately fruitful. So the difference between bad game and expert game will take you from 1 in 100 (0/100 in USA) to 2-3 out of 100.

Which admittedly is a 100-200% improvement.

Also, while I'm no follower of neither Janka or Krauser I'm confident that they're figures are reliable and signify actual bangs. The guy in the video getting a verbal yes is far from actually converting this to a bang.
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Quote: (08-06-2014 06:07 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (08-06-2014 03:02 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Top level guys like Paul Janka and Krauser have claimed about 2.5% of their daygame opens are ultimately fruitful. So the difference between bad game and expert game will take you from 1 in 100 (0/100 in USA) to 2-3 out of 100.

Which admittedly is a 100-200% improvement.

Also, while I'm no follower of neither Janka or Krauser I'm confident that they're figures are reliable and signify actual bangs. The guy in the video getting a verbal yes is far from actually converting this to a bang.

A verbal yes? Ha! I should have known, that is useless data.
Janka, Krauser and at least one more "name" PUA from a few years ago have released detailed data from 100's of approaches. All three were very similar around 2.5% so I think that is pretty solid info on what an experienced daygamer can achieve.

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Quote: (08-06-2014 03:28 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Quote: (08-06-2014 03:02 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Top level guys like Paul Janka and Krauser have claimed about 2.5% of their daygame opens are ultimately fruitful. So the difference between bad game and expert game will take you from 1 in 100 (0/100 in USA) to 2-3 out of 100.

1 in 40 in London or New York?

What's the average time for the approach, 2-5 minutes?
What's the density of targets?

You could probably get a new chick *everyday* alternating between union square and Washington square park on about four to five hours of work. Warm weather assumed

WIA

1 in 40, yep. Janka was in NY and Krauser mainly in London but he took lots of trips to EE. Krauser's post breaking it down should be easily findable on his blog.
I guess they could get higher if they were going for notches, but that was real life data where they were sometimes not motivated, etc.
Guys I know in Japan are definitely operating on that level. Cat I knew on the lair a few years ago got 100 lays in a year in Tokyo, about 1/3 to 1/2 from daygame. He was a machine.

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Quote: (08-06-2014 03:35 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Krauser is at 1/20 right now - so 5/100, but he goes for young women in the prime mostly. Depends on the Game and the amount of preselection you use. Some of the top guys have reported rates of 40% number-close. Besides 100 or even 200 is hardly representative. I have had high percentages of 30% or even 40% with 20 approaches and then zero for the next 30. And I am at best at intermediate level.

That guy above in Austria was approaching Milfs and women in their early 40s while being in his 30s. If you added Milfs (until age 42,43), then Roosh and Krauser would be way way above 2,5-5/100 lays. Also the guy approached sometimes 5s and even 4s, which most Players would never do.

This. Your stats are like a boxer's record. It tells you almost nothing until you dig into the details. Which of these two hypothetical boxers is the better fighter:

1. 45-0 (45 ko) of a young heavyweight beating up small children
2. 0-1 and it's a decision loss to Wladimir Klitschko.

Of course that's a grossly exaggerated example but the point is obvious. Imagine my stats if I only went after girls my own age (39) and wasn't too fussed on looks.
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Quote: (08-06-2014 07:13 AM)Krauser Wrote:  

...

1. 45-0 (45 ko) of a young heavyweight beating up small children
2. 0-1 and it's a decision loss to Wladimir Klitschko.

Of course that's a grossly exaggerated example but the point is obvious. Imagine my stats if I only went after girls my own age (39) and wasn't too fussed on looks.

Agreed. I met a Natural in Singapore who had almost one notch per day, but he went for every low-hanging fruit that would promise a quick lay. He was tall, good-looking and intelligent (and his Game was as a sum-total superior to mine), but he admitted that he fucked fatties sometimes, because to him that was better than nothing. He preferred a fast instant-lay with a 4 to 3 dates with a 7. And we made fun of him, because he said that he liked fucking the fat-folds of those girls as a pussy-ersatz.

I am almost 40 too and I am sure, that if I would add online Game and target women my age I could probably get way more notches with all those single mothers, divorcees and bored housewives out there. But I can still do that when I am 55/60, so I don't see much reason for that.

Notches and cuts are rather relative - who you target (age, 6s, 7s, 9s) and where you do it (US, UK, Paris, Prague, Warsaw, Rzeszow, Lvov or some small city in Belarus - those are completely different difficulty and abundance levels).

And frankly I believe that most guys have way lower stats, since they don't keep track of all the fruitless Night-Game approaches or indirect openers which are blown off instantly. I know I certainly don't.
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#24

The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

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Krauser is at 1/20 right now

He posted his numbers last year from a larger sample size and got a lot of hate for it (wrongly, I may add), and I think he wants to show that it's easier than what he was getting before, but this 1/20 seems to be from a short period of time and from a hot streak.

I also wonder what is considered an approach when you start keeping stats. If the girl ignores you completely, does that count? If she doesn't speak your language, does that count? The way you measure can greatly affect the final result. Ultimately it's meaningless since another person will never have the same numbers as you, even if they use the same game. It's more of a marketing tool if you're in the PUA business.

I don't count because I don't want to be reminded how cold approaching is one of the most inefficient ways to get laid. [Image: lol.gif]
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#25

The "do you want to have sex" guy goes to Europe ... and gets different results

Quote: (08-06-2014 08:32 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

He posted his numbers last year from a larger sample size and got a lot of hate for it (wrongly, I may add), and I think he wants to show that it's easier than what he was getting before, but this 1/20 seems to be from a short period of time and from a hot streak.

I've been fairly steady on 1 in 20 when I'm overseas. It's nearer 1 on 50 in London. I count every single girl I go up to, regardless of if it's a two-second blowout or two hour idate.

I loosely monitor my stats for my own self-diagnostics but don't worry about it much because, as Roosh intimated, it's just not very important. Getting into ratio pissing contests online is retarded. There are too many confounding variables.
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