[Switch]

I couldn't decide if this belonged in the newbie forum or not, so that means it does haha.

What do you guys specifically avoid doing/saying on dates? Assume you're out for coffee or drinks at a bar.

The only things I know to avoid right now are talking about things like religion, politics and other sensitive things.

So what are some things you avoid doing and saying on first dates and dates in general?

[kinjutsu]

Don't go on dates. Meet up. Hang out. Chill.
Avoid calling it a date in the first place it puts way too much pressure on the girl at the beginning.

[Hardy Daytona]

I'm still in the learning through experimentation phase, but here's a few personal rules I've developed. Bear in mind these might not work for you but take what you will from them:
- Never ask permission for anything. Use phraseology to work around.
- Never run aloof game during initial interactions. Most likely she'll up and leave or be engaged by another.
- If asked "Are you guys together?" respond with "Why do you ask? Are you planning on having a [number]some tonight? I have to warn you - the last guy who say my dick ran out of the room crying."
- When the conversation turns sexual, engage & amplify with physical contact.
- Your time is more important. Never drastically alter your plans for a potential.
- Know when to escalate with venue change and when to close.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Avoid/Resist the temptation to set up date #2 during the initial meet up

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35474....econd+date

[Dantes]

Neediness
No
Bigger turn off . You are better off farting in her face then acting needy.

[Atlantic]

I just straight up avoid dates.

[tylerdurden1993]

If a girls' asking you a lot of questions/doing most of the talking I find it best to minimise your talking i.e. you don't want to talk over her.

So if she asks you a question just tease her/agree and amplify etc. to make it light hearted and hopefully it'll make her do even more of the talking. But don't go over the top and give one word answer just don't over talk.

This is because I find when girls are doing most of the talking they are trying to qualify herself to you which means she's interested in you.

When you notice this and also recognise from her body language that she's into you it's just a case of not fucking up.

This video pretty much sums up "don't fuck up game" for me anyway.

[Switch]

When I say date I mean chill or hang. I don't do dates either, cuz like you said, too much pressure.

Great info so far guys, keep em coming.

[L M McCoy]

avoid eating anything messy

[Bacchus]

The biggest thing to avoid, especially on first dates, is meeting too far away from your place or hers. You need to be able to find somewhere private to escalate, because without your logistics secured, you're not getting laid. Ideally, this is a 10 minute walk, but obviously if you can make something else work, go with that.

[KC4]

Don't pick your nose! Nah seriously. I would ask her to to come and chill at my place or a bar. Someplace relaxing. If she asks what you you job is say something in the line of saving the world or something similar don't be to serious about answering that question. Just my 2 cents

[Kickb]

Staying at one place for too long

Smiling too much

Talking fast

fidgeting

public displays of affection. It should be done on the sly.

[PizzaSult]

Turning up on time.

Not having back up venues in case your first choice is too busy/loud/closed for private function.

Complimenting her.

[bigbait]

(07-29-2014 01:33 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

Avoid/Resist the temptation to set up date #2 during the initial meet up

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35474....econd+date

I don't think this is a 100% rule. If the girl is really hooking then go ahead and set up the meetup right as you are leaving her. Especially if you are moving fast, and in a competitive environment it helps to move fast. When girls are busy it is so much easier to coordinate a day and time in person. In person I can get a girl to cancel something else to hang out with me. Over text that is much harder.

[bigbait]

(07-29-2014 12:11 PM)Hardy Daytona Wrote:  

- Your time is more important. Never drastically alter your plans for a potential.

Yes, your time is important but you can waste a lot of time by being flexible and not taking advantages of opportunities. Often you need to bang when the girl wants to bang.
Is the girl leaving the city in a day and she texted you to hang out tonight... the time to bang is now.
Did the girl just ask you to meet her asap at 2am... the time to bang is now.
Did she just text you tell you she wants to cancel another date so she can see you instead... the time to bang is now.

[WestIndianArchie]

(07-29-2014 11:26 AM)Switch Wrote:  

So what are some things you avoid doing and saying on first dates and dates in general?

I approach dates differently than you do.

If you have to tiptoe around subjects, you're playing to her fiddle.

Topics to handle with care
- religion
- politics
- feminism/gender studies

Two you might not think of
- sex
- relationship history

If you have game, you get her to do a lot of the talking, and you become the person that judges, approves, and disapproves.

She should be on the defensive, trying to appease you, not the other way around.

So if you start talking about best restaurants,
- if she's a foodie, clown her for that, because she's probably a token.
- if she's a prude when it comes to food, clown her for that, you're adventurous

But even when you tease, you have to give her give her some space to breathe.

"Oh you don't like Sushi....hmm...lost some points....but you like Mediterranean...so got some points back..."

*long diatribe deleted*

WIA

[BadgerHut]

I concur with most of the items already, and add a couple:

-Don't schedule the date too early in the night - use the Tom Leykis trick of scheduling after dinnertime, so you can get dessert/drinks without too much cost, and after 90-120 minutes it's time to go home so you can try for the SNL.

-Don't stay at one place or at least move inside the place - I start at a dessert joint and bounce to a bar, or start at an up-energy bar (like the back end of a happy hour crowd) and bounce to a more intimate place.

-Don't sit across from her, sit next to her if possible

-Don't end the date without trying to kiss her (maybe try twice)

[Belize King]

Avoid not escalating hard enough. Go for the first date kiss, really bang. Follow the recipe and report back.