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Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia
#76

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 12:42 AM)Coldfire Wrote:  

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean that they would target children or try to make them gay. I have people in my family who are gay and they would find that abhorrent.

Homosexual men are less than 2% of the population and commit one-third of all child molestations.

Think about that for a second. 2% of people responsible for 33% of a crime. Homosexuals are overrepresented by 1000% among child molestors.

If you'd be uncomfortable walking in front of a young black man on the street at night, or sitting next to a young Muslim man on an airplane, you had damn well better be uncomfortable with having a homosexual around children, because statistically he's a much greater danger than either of the former.

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#77

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 01:23 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2014 12:42 AM)Coldfire Wrote:  

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean that they would target children or try to make them gay. I have people in my family who are gay and they would find that abhorrent.

Homosexual men are less than 2% of the population and commit one-third of all child molestations.

Think about that for a second. 2% of people responsible for 33% of a crime. Homosexuals are overrepresented by 1000% among child molestors.

If you'd be uncomfortable walking in front of a young black man on the street at night, or sitting next to a young Muslim man on an airplane, you had damn well better be uncomfortable with having a homosexual around children, because statistically he's a much greater danger than either of the former.


Statistics are clear, but don't make it right to discriminate against all of them. I have gay friends who are anything but imbalanced - they are actually quite masculine and you would not know them to be gay at all.

The problem is that we don't get good science on that subject. I think that many have homosexuality that is trauma-induced via child-abuse or other experiences in child-hood. Statistically the abused will likely to be abusers again - they have data on that, but avoid the gay-issue in academia due to political reasons.

Many gays validate the point by blogging about having changed their orientation choosing to have a wife and children. Too bad we won't have anything definitive on that subject - just like Game theory - would be great to have universities pick it apart step by step. Won't happen in our times.

And in most countries it is rather 1% or less than 2%.
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#78

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 01:23 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2014 12:42 AM)Coldfire Wrote:  

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean that they would target children or try to make them gay. I have people in my family who are gay and they would find that abhorrent.

Homosexual men are less than 2% of the population and commit one-third of all child molestations.

Think about that for a second. 2% of people responsible for 33% of a crime. Homosexuals are overrepresented by 1000% among child molestors.

If you'd be uncomfortable walking in front of a young black man on the street at night, or sitting next to a young Muslim man on an airplane, you had damn well better be uncomfortable with having a homosexual around children, because statistically he's a much greater danger than either of the former.

Can you post a source for this claim? If that's true, it's pretty staggering.

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#79

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

That statistic is assuming that 100% of homosexuals are child molestors. I want to know what percentage of homosexuals rape children. I'm betting its on the low side.

Also I am black so I would have no problem walking in front of another black guy.

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#80

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Interesting topic, I have noticed that a lot of grown men and women have started to make pedophile jokes in exchange for "racist or sexist" ones. You can see this a lot with the politically correct BBC comedians and other sorts, the will push the envelope with peadophilia, as its a kind of "safe taboo" to go down. Then there are a couple of "progressives" i have seen at different social events, pipe up with "understanding perspectives" on peadophilia. One guy even claiming its because they have bad eyesight and can't distinguish between a child/adult face. Very odd.

There are two things going on here, firstly the left wing will always try to push taboos and break traditions. If this will lead eventually to what the original poster was talking about. Well it really wouldn't surprise me, In Europe there have been a few pedophile groups that have linked up with the far left, it has been like that since the 60s. You know what it will be like, first it will be a gradual, more acceptance and talking about pedophiles and from an understanding perspective. Then those who start up these imaginary witch hunts against pedophiles, will be depicted as bigots, hypocrites and the true monsters. Slowly after time, you will find intellectuals, journalists leading the push to have it accepted.

Secondly, as a society we are massively over sexualized, more so than any of the previous pagan societies, most likely because of technology, think of internet porn and various types of contraceptives. In the process this leads to desensitisation and pushing for more extremes to satisfy this empty hole of desire. I am not saying that the player who enjoys banging bang bitches around the world is going to transform into some monster. More that gradually certain parts of the population are going to go down the route of complete deviancy than before. More because there are no longer any safe guards to condemm sexually deviant behaviour, it all is pretty much accepted.

I don't believe this will happen suddenly, most likely in the next couple of generations. Either way its beyond fucked up and another reason why I won't be raising any kids here.
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#81

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children, and at that age the little boys and girls are all the same, to them at least.
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#82

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 03:27 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2014 01:23 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2014 12:42 AM)Coldfire Wrote:  

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean that they would target children or try to make them gay. I have people in my family who are gay and they would find that abhorrent.

Homosexual men are less than 2% of the population and commit one-third of all child molestations.

Think about that for a second. 2% of people responsible for 33% of a crime. Homosexuals are overrepresented by 1000% among child molestors.

If you'd be uncomfortable walking in front of a young black man on the street at night, or sitting next to a young Muslim man on an airplane, you had damn well better be uncomfortable with having a homosexual around children, because statistically he's a much greater danger than either of the former.

Can you post a source for this claim? If that's true, it's pretty staggering.

Would be good to get the data but I've seen that statistic too somewhere.

Be aware that politically correct academia and the mainstream media will do whatever they can to suppress such studies and/or hide the truth.

But at the same time they will be the first ones to celebrate some study done by homosexual professors at SF State University or wherever that shows that gay couples raise kids just as good as or better than biological parents (!).

I think something like 30-40% of serial killers (Dahmer, Wayne Williams, John Wayne Gacy, etc.) are/were homosexual as well, won't see that in the NY Times for sure. (Sorry for getting off topic, but the reality IMO is that it's all one big happy pc/progressive effort to do all these things in concert).

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#83

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Scorpion, this is a really poor analogy.

Quote: (07-10-2014 12:07 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Sargon of Akkad, 2014:

Sargon of Akkad's grandfather, 1964:

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Sometimes I feel this newspaper is beginning to jump the shark with these kind of absurd reactionary fear-mongering editorials. What is this, the John Birch Society newsletter?

I can't help but roll my eyes everytime I hear someone use "divorce" in the same sentence as "pornography" or "homosexuality". Divorce is between consenting adults and is thus a victimless crime that harms no one. It concerns no one other than those involved. Homosexuality and pornography involve individuals who are incapable of giving or withholding consent because they are obviously mentally ill or deranged. The psychological damage they cause to children is well known. The two things are in no way related.

Only there's no evidence whatsoever that gays or pornstars have any less capacity to give consent than anyone else.

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Sargon of Akkad's grandson, 2064:

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Pedophilia is between consenting human beings and is thus a victimless crime that harms no one. It concerns no one other than those involved.

Really? Pedophilia is between consenting human beings? As long children are not capable of giving informed consent, it's not between consenting human beings. This analogy makes absolutely no sense.
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#84

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 05:19 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

Really? Pedophilia is between consenting human beings? As long children are not capable of giving informed consent, it's not between consenting human beings. This analogy makes absolutely no sense.

Definitely overblown, but look at how the definition of consent is changing right now.

It can be retrospectively withdrawn in the case of regret, a woman climbing into bed with you and grabbing your cock can be classed as not consenting...

I don't believe that it will reach the state that Scorpion predicts, but the more I see of the world, the less I am willing to say that it's impossible.

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#85

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 03:27 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Can you post a source for this claim? If that's true, it's pretty staggering.

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

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MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES

Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.

http://focus.psychiatryonline.org/articl...leid=53036

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The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%—4%).

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A study by Abel et al. (32) of 377 nonincarcerated, non-incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts. These studies confirm law enforcement reports about the serial nature of the crime, the large number of children abused by each pedophile, and the underreporting of assaults (1). Studies that used self-reports and polygraphs show that pedophiles currently in treatment underreport their current interest in children and past behaviors.

Homosexuals are simply not normal people with alternative sexual preferences as the media would lead us to believe. They have a very real mental illness that makes them a danger both to themselves and the community (primarily as disease incubators, secondarily as pedophiles). Homophobia is a naturally evolved behavioral mechanism which serves to protect society and individuals. In the same way that most people naturally seek to avoid things like snakes and spiders (and people with other mental illnesses like schizophrenia, for that matter), most people are also naturally homophobic and seek to avoid homosexuals. It is only the massive amount of homosexual propaganda being pumped through the media that has allowed for the rampant spread of homosexual acceptance in recent years. It's literally brainwashing.

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#86

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^^ I don't really think the Family Research Council is a reliable source.

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#87

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Yeah, if you look at the numbers of children molested, break it down by sex, there's not much question that the number of male children molested would amount to a larger proportion of the homosexual population than female-directed pedophiles are of the heterosexual population - if you correlate male pedophilic desires for boys with homosexuality.

There's also the issue of pure pedophiles vs. homosexuals going after pubescent boys.

It's one of those things, like false rape claims, that won't be examined in the media.

Pedophilia is much more useful as a hated and vilified crime justifying surveillance, searches and controls in the world we live in now than it's useful as imagined tool for the destruction of civilization.
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#88

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Sargon of Akkad: that post went right over your head.

I wasn't making a direct comparison, I was simply pointing out that attitudes toward sexuality and morality can shift over time. Your grandfather or great-grandfather probably looked at homosexuals with the same disgust you look at pedophiles, and would never believe they could be celebrated as mainstream. It's very arrogant and silly to believe that we, today, have reached the ultimate end of all human understanding, and that those who come after us will necessarily think the exact same way that we do because we got everything so right.

The point is that if present trends continue, your grandson will have as different an opinion on sexual morality from you as you do from your grandfather. That's just how social attitudes work and shift over time, especially if a culture has become degenerate and decadent.

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#89

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Quote: (07-10-2014 09:20 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

^^ I don't really think the Family Research Council is a reliable source.

Click the link. Fully the bottom 1/3 of that page is citations.

But really, in this case the basic math is all you need to know. If homosexuals are 2% of the population and 1/3 of children molested are boys, the numbers just don't add up. There's no way to get around the fact that homosexuals are wildly disproportionately represented among pedophiles.

This is simply not discussed because it's very politically incorrect.

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#90

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 09:29 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2014 09:20 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

^^ I don't really think the Family Research Council is a reliable source.

Click the link. Fully the bottom 1/3 of that page is citations.

But really, in this case the basic math is all you need to know. If homosexuals are 2% of the population and 1/3 of children molested are boys, the numbers just don't add up. There's no way to get around the fact that homosexuals are wildly disproportionately represented among pedophiles.

This is simply not discussed because it's very politically incorrect.

Fair enough. The SPLC (everyone's favorite left-wing hate group) provides a different picture.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/in.../10-myths#

Also, another hoorah for Cultural Marxism. Richard Dawkins sees nothing wrong with "a little pedophilia."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/richard...pedophilia

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#91

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

That SPLC attempt to rebut the clear link between homosexuality and pedophilia is utterly pathetic to the point of being laughable.

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According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.

An appeal to authority fallacy that cites no data, just a pro-homosexual researcher who "reviewed studies" and declared his opinion.

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Anti-gay activists who make that claim allege that all men who molest male children should be seen as homosexual. But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.

This is vile sophistry of the worst kind. Instead of recognizing the clear disparity of the numbers - 2% of the population accounting for 33% of child molestations - they simply ignore the fact that so many sex offenders are homosexual entirely, instead giving them their own separate "pedophile" category. Complete rubbish, and a dangerous distortion of the facts.

The rest of that list is similarly garbage. About what you'd expect from the SPLC. Also note that unlike the FRC article that had 75 separate citations, the SPLC produces exactly zero. That's because the numbers don't lie. There's simply no way to ignore 2% of the population committing 33% of the molestations. It's a frightening statistic highlights the clear danger that homosexuals pose toward children.

The fact is that if you had two friends, a heterosexual and a homosexual, and left them alone with a young boy, the homosexual would be 1500% more likely to molest him. Not 10% or 20%, but 1500%. Fully 15x more likely.

That's fucking outrageous. It's something that people need to know, and no one ever talks about it because it's non-PC.

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#92

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 09:24 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Sargon of Akkad: that post went right over your head.

I wasn't making a direct comparison, I was simply pointing out that attitudes toward sexuality and morality can shift over time. Your grandfather or great-grandfather probably looked at homosexuals with the same disgust you look at pedophiles, and would never believe they could be celebrated as mainstream. It's very arrogant and silly to believe that we, today, have reached the ultimate end of all human understanding, and that those who come after us will necessarily think the exact same way that we do because we got everything so right.

The point is that if present trends continue, your grandson will have as different an opinion on sexual morality from you as you do from your grandfather. That's just how social attitudes work and shift over time, especially if a culture has become degenerate and decadent.

The point is irrelevant.

No one's making the claim that we have "reached the ultimate end of all human understanding". Will future generations have different senses of morality than we do? Cerntainly. That, however, doesn't change the fact that their is no logical reason to criminalise of stigmatize consentual adult homosexuality. Also, if your going to cite sources, cite something that isn't funded by right wing Christians with a religious agenda. Just a brief look at the website you linked raises red flags.

Even if we accept that there's a disproportionate number of homosexual pedophiles relative to the general population, in no way does it follow that "most gays molest little boys". The overwhelming majority of child molesters are men; should I conclude from this that men are by nature sexually deviant and predatory, as some feminazis like to claim?

Your entire posiition is based on bad logic.

Many members of Group A also belong to Group B
Therefore, most members of Group B belong to Group A.

"Most child molesters are men, even though men make up only about half of the Population."
"Therefore, most men are child molesters." I might as well say I shouldn't leave my kid alone with a man, because he's almost certain to rape her, based on your reasoning.

I admit it would be interesting to know why 1/3 of child molesters molest boys. One of many possible reasons I could imagine, for example, is that male child molesters may have much easier access to boys as opposed to girls (priests, boyscouts, coaches, etc.). You've done nothing to support your conclusion that these statistics are due to some kind of inherent "deviance" in gays.
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#93

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 09:24 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Sargon of Akkad: that post went right over your head.

I wasn't making a direct comparison, I was simply pointing out that attitudes toward sexuality and morality can shift over time. Your grandfather or great-grandfather probably looked at homosexuals with the same disgust you look at pedophiles, and would never believe they could be celebrated as mainstream. It's very arrogant and silly to believe that we, today, have reached the ultimate end of all human understanding, and that those who come after us will necessarily think the exact same way that we do because we got everything so right.

The point is that if present trends continue, your grandson will have as different an opinion on sexual morality from you as you do from your grandfather. That's just how social attitudes work and shift over time, especially if a culture has become degenerate and decadent.

Your post reminded me of a passage from Orson Scott Card's essay on homosexual marriage:

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The proponents of this anti-family revolution are counting on most Americans to do what they have done through every stage of the monstrous social revolution that we are still suffering through -- nothing at all.

But that "nothing" is deceptive. In fact, the pro-family forces are already taking their most decisive action. It looks like "nothing" to the anti-family, politically correct elite, because it isn't using their ranting methodology.

The pro-family response consists of quietly withdrawing allegiance from the society that is attacking the family.

Quietly withdrawing is why I predict that homeschooling and private schools are going to become more and more popular with people who are simply sick and tired of fighting this sort of stuff and simply want to get away from it now.

Let the liberals have the public schools, the media, etc. My house will be TV-free and my kid will be going to a private school.
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#94

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Quote: (07-10-2014 10:36 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

Quote: (07-10-2014 09:24 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Sargon of Akkad: that post went right over your head.

I wasn't making a direct comparison, I was simply pointing out that attitudes toward sexuality and morality can shift over time. Your grandfather or great-grandfather probably looked at homosexuals with the same disgust you look at pedophiles, and would never believe they could be celebrated as mainstream. It's very arrogant and silly to believe that we, today, have reached the ultimate end of all human understanding, and that those who come after us will necessarily think the exact same way that we do because we got everything so right.

The point is that if present trends continue, your grandson will have as different an opinion on sexual morality from you as you do from your grandfather. That's just how social attitudes work and shift over time, especially if a culture has become degenerate and decadent.

The point is irrelevant.

No one's making the claim that we have "reached the ultimate end of all human understanding". Will future generations have different senses of morality than we do? Cerntainly. That, however, doesn't change the fact that their is no logical reason to criminalise of stigmatize consentual adult homosexuality. Also, if your going to cite sources, cite something that isn't funded by right wing Christians with a religious agenda. Just a brief look at the website you linked raises red flags.

Even if we accept that there's a disproportionate number of homosexual pedophiles relative to the general population, in no way does it follow that "most gays molest little boys". The overwhelming majority of child molesters are men; should I conclude from this that men are by nature sexually deviant and predatory, as some feminazis like to claim?

Your entire posiition is based on bad logic.

Many members of Group A also belong to Group B
Therefore, most members of Group B belong to Group A.

"Most child molesters are men, even though men make up only about half of the Population."
"Therefore, most men are child molesters." I might as well say I shouldn't leave my kid alone with a man, because he's almost certain to rape her, based on your reasoning.

I admit it would be interesting to know why 1/3 of child molesters molest boys. One of many possible reasons I could imagine, for example, is that male child molesters may have much easier access to boys as opposed to girls (priests, boyscouts, coaches, etc.). You've done nothing to support your conclusion that these statistics are due to some kind of inherent "deviance" in gays.

You can delude yourself by jumping through as many hoops as you'd like, but the math is very clear on this. Homosexuals represent a grossly disproportionate amount of child molesters given their small population numbers. Does this mean that every homosexual molests children? Certainly not, and I never said otherwise. But the fact is that homosexuals as a group pose a great risk, and that any random homosexual man is much more likely to be a pedophile than a random heterosexual man. Regardless of how strenuously you object to this fact, a fact it remains, because the math doesn't lie. 2% of the population committing 33% of offenses is wildly disproportionate. Let's break down the math further. Given that homosexual men are 2% of the total population (including women), we can say they are approximately 4% of the male population, or 1 in 25.

Let's imagine a room with 25 men in it, 24 of whom of straight and one who is homosexual. Now let's say there is a group of ten children who these 25 men molested. The math would break down as follows:

The one homosexual would be responsible for molesting between 3-4 of the 10 children.

The 24 straight men would as a group be responsible for molesting 6-7 of the children.

Now the statistical reality is that of those 24 men, only a few would be doing the molesting, and the rest would be innocent. But let's ignore that fact and ascribe blame equally across the group. So given 24 men and six children total molested, each man is responsible for 1/4 or .25 of a molestation.

In contrast, the single homosexual is responsible for 3-4 molestations. This means the homosexual is between 12 and 16 times more likely to molest than the heterosexual (3 or 4 being 12-16x the value of .25).

Torture yourself however you'd like in trying to come to terms with this data, but the facts are very clear: homosexuals are vastly more likely to molest children than are heterosexuals.

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#95

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Note: this is pretty much the content from my last podcast.

I'm not sure exactly how it's going to shake out, but remember the Frankfurt School's main tool - a tool whose inner logic is so pervasive that it overwhelms the original ideology of those wielding it, and becomes an end in itself: the false dialectic, the false argument.

First, a definition of virtue: as per Plato (I think it was him) virtue lies between two extremes. Chastity is not the opposite of sluttiness, but rather the balance between it and frigidity. Ergo:

Sluttiness --- Chastity --- Frigidity

Chastity is restraining your sexual impulses until it is the correct time to express them. To put this in terms of gluttony:

Junk Food --- a small, rich dessert piece --- veganism/eating disorder

So when it comes to the paedophile lobby, we're seeing two arguments which are making up the false dialectic.

1. The Slut Argument: sex-positivity, Sex-Ed teaching 10 year olds how to have anal, normalizing sexual abberation, in-your-face sexuality at all times.

2. The Frigid Argument: all sex is rape, ban all porn, raise the age of consent to 21, scan everybody's computer and arrest 16 year olds who sext eachother, paedophile hysteria.

It's hard to say exactly how these two will play out, but argument No 2 - in particular the "paedophile hysteria" argument (IE: all men are paedophiles, there are candy vans everywhere, but don't you dare look at the single mothers who enable it) seems to be ascendant. If there is a backlash against it - which there very well may be - that's what the paedophile lobby will glom onto, to push to the other extreme.

At the core of both of these is an attack on chastity, on normal sexuality, on 16 year old girls marrying 22 year old men, et cetera.

Ed: Just to be clear, when I say "Chastity" I'm not trying to moralize or lecture. Absent an effective Church (and I have yet to see one of those) you cannot have marriage. Biblical marriage might be an ideal worth striving for, but it's just that - an ideal. Not a reality. By my definition "Chastity" means that you don't masturbate in public parks, and you don't get yourself riddled with STDs by sleeping with everything that spreads its legs.
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#96

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Quote: (07-08-2014 03:03 AM)tpiddy Wrote:  

My sister was 16 when she was dating a 20 or 21 year old and they've now been married a dozen years and have kids. You can't tell me my brother-in-laws actions should have been illegal, but they likely were.

There are cases where guys like your brother in law have to register as sex offenders because they were convicted of statutory rape. I remember hearing an interview with one, same kind of situation, he was 20, she was 16, now married for 10+ years with children and he still has to register.
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#97

Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

Scorpion, you completely failed to address my argument. Fact is your reasoning is just bad. From the statement "1/3 of cases of child sexual abuse are male on male" it does not follow that "gays as a group are more likely to be kiddy-fiddlers". Unless I know what percentage of gay men are also pedophiles and/or child molesters, your statement is meaningless.

Again, by that reasoning, I should conclude that men as a group are a threat to children, considering that the vast majority of child molesters are male. We're half the population, yet we commit something like 98% of child rapes.

Again, from the statement that
"Many members of Group A also belong to Group B" it does not follow that...
"Many members of Group B therefore belong to group A"

There's not really much else that needs to be said to that. You're simply looking for reasons to rationalise your own issues and to justify this little ideological agenda you're pushing.
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Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

As sickened as I am with gay pride, acceptance etc. I dont see legalized/socially accepted pedophilia anytime in the future.

A) Pedos are universally despised and B) Children are basically worshipped in the US. Kids have holy status and if anything, MORE laws will be enacted to protect them.

That being said, I wouldnt be shocked to see some sort of advanced travesty being promoted in the future once gays have made their full impact.
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Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

I'm sorry Scorpion, but Sargon of Akkad is right on your faulty logic. You are committing the rhetorical fallacy of affirming the consequent.

With that said I'm concerned about the complete abandon of critical thought in the media when it concerns these topics. It is also a huge waste of time trying to turn back the clock on this. One must pick his battles on the topic.
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Homosexuality is now in the bag. Next up for the left: legalized pedophilia

They are allowing deranged mothers give 8-year old boys hormone blockers to prevent the onset of puberty and turn them into little girls. Sickening. Seems like this is normalizing what once would be considered child abuse.

Transgenderism and the concept of gender fluidity is the hot topic right now. I don't doubt that many sick leftists want to normalize pedophilia, but I wouldn't bet on them succeeding.

I expect a conservative backlash similar to how Nixon and Reagan followed the great unraveling of the 1960s and 1970s.
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