[Fighting888]

Obviously most of us are still young and single, but at least some people would like to settle down at some point.

The question is this - under what conditions would you get married?
What qualities would a girl have to make her worth tying the knot with?

What type of girl would I have to offer up to you for you to get out of the mating market?

[LEMONed IScream]

Well, if she is not western that is halfway done, sort of.

[Christian McQueen]

http://www.returnofkings.com/15170/8-sig...s-a-keeper

[pitt]

1. Lives with both parents or her parents are still married

2.Knows how to cook and take care of the house

3. Gives blowjobs and is always available for sex

4. Her family has some money or she has her own money, hopefully more than me or as much as me.

5. She has a passport to travel. I am not really looking for a chick that wants my passport, I don't think I am marrying a third world chick, unless we were dating for many years.

4. Has a big butt (that should be number one)


The rest is history....

[LEMONed IScream]

You should also check divorce laws..avoid marrying in the US for obvious reasons... get a pre-nup or whatever how it works..make sure she is not "outspoken, sassy, sarcastic, independent" etc .

[Vitriol]

Not sure if the OP is trolling... the answer should be obvious if you've read the forum.

[Fighting888]

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Despite my articles aimed around sluts and how to deal and pull them, I also am aware that there are some girls (a very small percentage) worth keeping around. I’m not saying marry a girl tomorrow, if she displays these qualities, but she may be worthy of girlfriend material and after at least 2 years of dating, a possible candidate for marriage. I understand that not all of you cats have the desire to fuck fresh sluts every weekend and are more of a one girl type of guy. If you’re that type of guy, then pour a fresh cup of coffee or chug a Red Bull and read closely.

Note: These are not in a particular order of importance. They are ALL important.

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8. Good Family (But not too involved)

Point out a family and there’s a good chance you can tell what type of daughter they have. You want trailer trash? Then date a trailer park family’s daughter. You want a WASP, then vacation in the Hamptons and meet an All-American girl; however it’s not about their economic background, it’s about how solid the family is as a unit. This is a fact. If a girl grew up the result of divorced parents, then she will not be as apt to commit, nor to remain committed through thick and thin.

I would say it’s better to date and marry equal to, or less than in terms of family money. If you’re blue-collared and your wife is blue-blooded, then good luck constantly being compared to her relatives and being considered the outcast. Better to be the one with ‘money’ and looked up to, then the flipside. You don’t want to be dependent on a chick’s family money. Trust me.

Is the father the patriarch? Does the mom wear the pants? Study the dynamic and choose the girl with the family who’s father reigns supreme, as it should be.

A family that is cohesive, supportive, but not too involved in the details of your relationship with their daughter is perfect.

7. Good Relationship With Her Dad

This is a given. Yes, I know, a girl can have a great relationship with her dad and be sucking every cock in sight while away from him, however odds are if the dad is street smart and has trained his daughter well, then she won’t be a slut.

On the flipside, be careful about a girl who’s too much of a ‘Daddy’s Girl’ and who runs to him for every little issue. You’ll constantly be compared to her dad and this is when you lay the law down and let her know you’re not her dad and you won’t tolerate being compared or disrespected.

The perfect blend is a girl who honors her dad, respects him and is obedient. Trust me, she will treat you the same.

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6. She’s Had Less Than 10 Cocks

If you want a girl with a Arby’s Special for a labia then choose a girl who’s had more cocks then Jenna Jameson. If you want a girl who has had some respect for herself and her future significant other, then choose a girl who’s not very sexually experienced. Some of you may want a girl who know’s how to suck the chrome off a pipe, well my friends, why don’t you let her practice on you? Turn her into YOUR own personal porn star. Who wants a chick who’s had multiple cum loads deposited into her pussy?

Science tells us now that a girl who’s had 16 or more sexual partners has difficulty bonding with a partner, as well as their future children. I say 10 or less. Something happens when they hit the double digit numbers and it becomes easier for them to justify and rationalize it. Get a girl who’s open sexually, but with you and isn’t experienced. Thank me later.

5. She Has No Kids

Unless you’re Mark Minter and you enjoy raising another man’s sperm, then definitely do NOT date/marry a girl who has kids from a previous guy. You will regret this like hell, I’m warning you in all seriousness. If you were to get a divorce and you make more than her, then guess what buddy? You’ll be paying child support for a fucking kid that’s not even yours. Repeat after me: FUCK THAT SHIT. Life is too short to be cleaning up other people’s mistakes.

Leave the cuckoldry to Mark Minter.

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4. She’s Never Been Married

Damaged goods. Damaged goods. Damaged goods. You want her vision of marriage to be fresh, pure and untainted by Bubba Joe who she married in 2004 and they lasted 1 year until she found him bent over in the bathroom with a suction cup dildo fucking himself.

If you’re getting serious with her, don’t take her word for never having been married. Run her name in the marriage license nationwide database and make sure. It doesn’t make you a creep; it makes you fucking smart that you value your time, your money and your fucking future. Moving on…

3. She Follows You

Show me a successful relationship or a marriage and I’ll show you a couple where the Man is a Man and the Woman follows him. You do not want an ‘enlightened feminist’ cunt who will make your life hell and question every fucking action or decision of yours. You want a sweet, feminine, girl who WANTS to follow a strong man wherever that might be. She will be happier for it and it will make your job easier which is to lead.

Grab the helm Captain; lead your girl.

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2. She’s Not Materialistic

Now I like a girl with fashion sense and who has a taste in fine things and the baller lifestyle, HOWEVER, there is a huge difference between a girl who wants you for you and a girl who wants you for your lifestyle and money. Find a girl who while she has CLASS, she’s not feigning for it, nor is it a dealbreaker if you don’t have money. The girl who takes the bus with you is the same girl who should be in your Bentley. If she scoffs at the bus, then what the fuck do you think she will do when all hell breaks loose in your life and you lose everything? (God forbid, but hypothetically)

I’ve been on both sides of the fence, on the bus and in a Bentley and back again over and over up and down and let me tell you, the girls who rode the bus were the quality girls. The ones who wanted in the Bentley were shallow gold digging cunts who were out once the Bentley was gone.

If her eyes light up about material shit and she won’t shut up about certain designer shit when she knows you can’t afford it, then dump her to the side. Or leave her at the next bus stop.

1. She’s A Ride or Die Bitch

This is the MOST important quality a girl can have. I’ve been at those moments in life where I didn’t know if I was getting out of handcuffs that night, but I did know that I could make one call to the RorD Girl and tell her to “get some cash from you know where and bail my ass out”.

There is no price tag on this quality. It can safe your life and that’s not a joke.

A girl that’s there for you when you’re sick, homeless (I’ve been there believe it or not), hungry and broke, is infucking valuable. Treat her right. She’s a keeper.

Good article.

[Fighting888]

(06-27-2014 10:53 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

Not sure if the OP is trolling... the answer should be obvious if you've read the forum.

The consensus her seems to be to never get married or go to a non-Western, non-feminist culture in eastern Europe.

[Fighting888]

(06-27-2014 09:42 PM)pitt Wrote:  

1. Lives with both parents or her parents are still married

2.Knows how to cook and take care of the house

3. Gives blowjobs and is always available for sex

4. Her family has some money or she has her own money, hopefully more than me or as much as me.

5. She has a passport to travel. I am not really looking for a chick that wants my passport, I don't think I am marrying a third world chick, unless we were dating for many years.

4. Has a big butt (that should be number one)


The rest is history....

So do you believe marrying an EE or SE Asian chick is not a good option?

[Fighting888]

(06-27-2014 10:01 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

You should also check divorce laws..avoid marrying in the US for obvious reasons... get a pre-nup or whatever how it works..make sure she is not "outspoken, sassy, sarcastic, independent" etc .

I think the word for that is agreeable.

[la_mode]

Now, even a woman from the best family who has a great relationship with her parents cannot be saved. Overly traditional women can also tend to be a bit too conservative and typically will only marry a man of equal social strata given they run the risk of being disowned if they do not. If they are close to their family, even more so.

[BadWolf]

When she acts like a woman.

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An important sign of a keeper

One of the important signs of a woman that you should consider in a keeper is the woman who doesn’t waste your cash and ferociously saves it like it’s her own. An economical girlfriend is the one who should be considered to for a long term relationship or possibly commitment if she has other signs too. An endearing quality of a woman is her parsimony, when she stops you from spending for her, out of a sincere concern for your financial health. These women are the women you actually feel and want to spend for, because of their thoughtfulness. A live-for-the-day type chick who expects you to blow up cash, to get access to her holes is not the type for a LTR, unless if you’re rich enough to afford her. The fact is that all women have a price, so focus on the one who gives you the maximum returns for the least amount of investment. Better game her to fuck her.

I asked my wife today if she would like a purse or a pair of shorts or a dress (only 10 rmb, like a buck .50) she said no, she didn't need it and only wanted one if she needed it.

I bought a LONGSWORD today on the net for practice with a friend, she said " I'm happy you are buying things you like, you work hard, you should enjoy your life. I want you to be happy cause when you are happy, I'm happy. "

Right now she is setting up all the fans around me while I write this so I don't get too hot after she goes to bed.

This is marriage material and YES they do exist... but you won't find them in the 1st world or even in the 3rd world cities, you have to hit the outback, wastelands, farms, back alleys. These are women stuck working hard for their families in fish markets or selling fake, low quality clothing in some backwater third tier city that time forgot. They will likely NEVER see a foreigner up close unless you actively seek them out.

Let me repeat that, if you come to CHINA, you won't find a quality girl in SHANGHAI/GUANGZHOU or BEIJING in any district except the extremely low class areas, ghettos and horrible back alleys where cockroaches and rats run freely... that is where you'll find the hardiest people and for a woman hardiness is good FAMILY material and great marriage material.

[MrLemon]

I've written a few threads already on this topic. I managed at 33 to find a keeper after many years of intentionally chasing sluts.

It's much harder these days, but, I see a lot of 20-year old girls are very actively questioning the Feminist bullshit line. I think we've hit Peak Slutdom although, we haven't hit Peak Feminism in my opinion. It may get easier as the new girls grow old enough to see the damage caused by Feminist lies.

Anyway if you want a keeper, and want a family, I still think marrying a foreign girl is a tough road. Too hard a road for me.

My solution was to find a non-professional girl, who wasn't real career oriented and wanted to settle down and have a family. I have to work my butt off to provide for the whole family, that's my burden, but as a man I find that burden empowering.

I seriously think, if you go to Minnesota or Iowa or a rural area, you will find good old-fashioned american gals. American women used to be the best in the world; big tits, strong loins, and fiercely protective of their children and husbands. Maybe you can still find these women in rural areas. Look for a woman who looks and acts as if she ought to be living in the 50s. She should NOT have more money or a better career than you...that's a guaranteed divorce.

[KorbenDallas]

MrLemon,

As a young guy from a flyover state who has been with both foreign girls and American girls, I'm going to disagree with you, but I still respect your opinion.

Personally, I don't think there is a better quality girl to marry than an Eastern European country girl who is 21 or younger. To me, they are the best in the world.

Maybe there are young American girls who are as you say, but from my experience, they slut it up, and then at 23, when they've been through the ringer, then they start talking about "family". And these are supposedly the good ones, because they don't wait til 30. I'll take the 19 year old from the Eastern Bloc countryside.

But to each his own. And I believe you that you found yourself a keeper. Good to hear.

I think the tide is turning to Lemon. I've also written on that. Feminism is a dirty word in flyover country. As it should be.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

There are two issues most guys miss: Her mother and her health.

First, look at the woman's mother. That'll give you a good idea of what you'll be dealing with in twenty or so years. If she's a MILF in good spirits and good health, you're good to go. But if her mom is overweight or looks broken in some respect, that's likely going to be her future too.

I can't stress the health aspect enough. And I would recommend twentysomething men try to absorb the following although it'll be hard to relate to.

Younger guys should consider screening out women who have already had health issues and are on meds for one thing or another. This includes anti-depressants. Men tend to want to "save" sick women (as opposed to women, who won't give sick men the time of day) but this doesn't create a good future most of the time.

Health issues like chronic illness or bad backs get worse over time. This will not just reduce your quality of life, but destroy it. Health is way, way more important than anyone in their twenties realizes. Also, it seems to me that men's bodies are more durable and were built to bounce back, while women tend to acquire health problems and stay sick on some level.

On top of all that, women seem to view getting over a serious medical condition as a "process" and assess medical treatment like they're examining astrology charts, not quite realizing the gravity of situations. Even smart women do this. Men, IMO, seem more goal-oriented when it comes to battling being ill.

The idealistic, optimistic me at 25 would have regarded the above advice as cold and unfeeling. Two decades later, I wish someone had told me all this stuff and I'd have had the brains to listen.

[bojangles]

I was about to post some of the above, that's great advice. Was trying to get in here before the guys came in saying 'don't get married'

[Biologist]

(06-29-2014 06:02 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Men tend to want to "save" sick women (as opposed to women, who won't give sick men the time of day)

Quoted for truth.

Also, not only is it much easier living with someone with an absence of disease, you don't want your children inheriting bad genes.

[Rigsby]

(06-27-2014 09:18 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

Obviously most of us are still young and single, but at least some people would like to settle down at some point.

The question is this - under what conditions would you get married?
What qualities would a girl have to make her worth tying the knot with?

What type of girl would I have to offer up to you for you to get out of the mating market?

You ask a most serious question.

Any man that answers this honestly, leaves himself wide open.
So be it.

Married?

Ok.
We are talking kids here too I suppose.

She would need to be much younger. I am knocking on a bit. I want a nice healthy body to bare my children. For her sake and theirs.

I want her to look up to me. I want her innocence. I want her before society and advertising and marketing has got to her brain. I want her as nature intended.

I would want her family to be clued up. For them to see me as an asset and not a liability. This is not so hard to understand. If they have any wisdom, they will welcome an older more experienced man to guide their young daughter. Young bucks will fuck around, an older man will appreciate what he has, cherish it.

I would want her friends to not be arseholes. All it would take would be one overly influential friend to fuck it all up. I don't care if she has asshole friends - I can deal with them - but one super bad friend is difficult. It may seem like nothing, but from hard experience, you don't need another ballbreaker on the scene.

She would have to have money.
I'm not a ponce. But I'm not rich either, yet. Even if I had a lot of money, I would make sure she had more. Nothing worse than a woman wanting you for your money. Or even worse than that, her friends thinking that she only wants you for your money. She might love you in her own head, but others judgement is important too.

I'd like her to have a sense of humour.
Ok, I'm getting all romantic here, but bare with me.
A sense of humour is important. It means you can face adversity and overcome it. It runs deeper than that. I'm just saying it is a bonus.

There is probably a few more.

I'd like her to keep her friends. I'd like to know who the fuck her friends are. I would hold them close, as we hold our enemies closer.

She'd have a good time with me. She'd never meet a better Man. I'd treat her well. She would be looked after and have an exciting life. I wouldn't let her get out of hand. I'd do a lot to keep a good wife once I found her.

I don't hold out much hope. But a man can dream, can't he? (© George Carlin).

[Jaydublin]

Here in northern Mexico there are a lot of old fashioned women who somewhat belong in the 50s. Now I know there are a lot of places in the world where you can find this but here, just a few hours from the border, the culture is not so different. That is a huge positive for me.

I moved here a year ago and am still amazed today at all the women who I would consider giving a shot at a serious relationship. In the USA that basically never happens.

Another positive here is that they are lighter skinned and taller. There is a lot of European blood. I think this would be a great place to come search for a possible spouse if an opportunity for business or work presents itself.

[jamaicabound]

I always thought I wanted to get married, probably in large part because society tells us we should. I really see very little reason to get married. That's not to say I don't want to have kids or even start a family but don't see any reason to formalize it on paper, largely because I don't want to give up half of what I have if things go awry. I realize even having a kid your opening yourself up but that to me is worth the risk as I'd like to have kids.

As far as qualities in a women or what makes one worth marrying. I think you have to have some of the same values and such. I'm a big smoker so definately has to be someone who's 420 friendly or at least tolerant. Someone who likes to travel. Someone who will allow me to be head of the household. Not saying I want to be a dictator or need some super submissive women but someone who's willing to support me and kinda let me have my way I guess. Someone whos always available for sex and bjs a must.

Lastly and most importantly someone who is stable and can control their emotions. I've been with girls whho are great girls but bad tempers, I tend to date latinas so that could be part of it, just the type who really can lose it and eithher start hitting me, causing a scene, or even threatening stuff whether call the cops call my mom etc lol yes it has happenned, threats not the actual stuff. Anyhow, someone who cant control themselves and loses their shit is automatically disqualified, I can't have some women making false accusations just cuz she's pissed off or trying to cause drama or get me in trouble. I've had to toss a few otherwise great women to the side for this very issue.

[Fighting888]

(06-29-2014 06:02 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

There are two issues most guys miss: Her mother and her health.

First, look at the woman's mother. That'll give you a good idea of what you'll be dealing with in twenty or so years. If she's a MILF in good spirits and good health, you're good to go. But if her mom is overweight or looks broken in some respect, that's likely going to be her future too.

I can't stress the health aspect enough. And I would recommend twentysomething men try to absorb the following although it'll be hard to relate to.

Younger guys should consider screening out women who have already had health issues and are on meds for one thing or another. This includes anti-depressants. Men tend to want to "save" sick women (as opposed to women, who won't give sick men the time of day) but this doesn't create a good future most of the time.

Health issues like chronic illness or bad backs get worse over time. This will not just reduce your quality of life, but destroy it. Health is way, way more important than anyone in their twenties realizes. Also, it seems to me that men's bodies are more durable and were built to bounce back, while women tend to acquire health problems and stay sick on some level.

On top of all that, women seem to view getting over a serious medical condition as a "process" and assess medical treatment like they're examining astrology charts, not quite realizing the gravity of situations. Even smart women do this. Men, IMO, seem more goal-oriented when it comes to battling being ill.

The idealistic, optimistic me at 25 would have regarded the above advice as cold and unfeeling. Two decades later, I wish someone had told me all this stuff and I'd have had the brains to listen.

This is really good advice.

1. Yes, look at her mom....... and perhaps any older sisters she has. She's likely to age into her mom's looks and personality.

2. Right, health. A girl plagued by chronic health problems in her 20s is not going to get any healthier in her 30s and 40s. Probably the mom's health is a good indicator of where she'll be in 25-30 years.

[Fighting888]

(06-29-2014 02:00 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

Here in northern Mexico there are a lot of old fashioned women who somewhat belong in the 50s. Now I know there are a lot of places in the world where you can find this but here, just a few hours from the border, the culture is not so different. That is a huge positive for me.

I moved here a year ago and am still amazed today at all the women who I would consider giving a shot at a serious relationship. In the USA that basically never happens.

Another positive here is that they are lighter skinned and taller. There is a lot of European blood. I think this would be a great place to come search for a possible spouse if an opportunity for business or work presents itself.

Fred Reed married a woman from Mexico.

[BadWolf]

Mexico is a great place but if you are looking for women, I'd be hitting up the local tiangus. Those women, they know how to sell and most of them are incredibly well dressed and maintained despite being from semi-poverty backgrounds. Mexico is a great place to be, especially if you have a decent house to go back to at night. In the 3 years or so that I stayed in Mexico, I was never without a girlfriend and some of the food is actually pretty decent.

Contrast that with China where almost every apartment has had its share of problems (with legs) and almost all the food tastes like sh1t. Told my wife, if we are ever stuck in dead end jobs, we can always save up 50 grand and buy a REALLY nice house in Mexico. 6 Months of dead end jobs and then 6 months of retirement in a 4 star house in Mexico... its my current backup plan.

But yeah, lots of GOOD women raised in Mexico, you just have to be there to find them.

[conservative]

>> The question is this - under what conditions would you get married?

Make sure she can't ruin my little financial empire. That's the only thing (my money/assets) I can trust that will feed and house me.

>> What qualities would a girl have to make her worth tying the knot with?

Don't know. Too "unexperienced". My advice is: get experience by trying everything. Short-term, long-term, one night stands, friend-zone... This will help you decide to know what you need/want and are more comfortable with.

>> What type of girl would I have to offer up to you for you to get out of the mating market?

A generous or stupid one. 9/10.

[The Father]

(06-29-2014 06:02 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

There are two issues most guys miss: Her mother and her health.

First, look at the woman's mother. That'll give you a good idea of what you'll be dealing with in twenty or so years. If she's a MILF in good spirits and good health, you're good to go. But if her mom is overweight or looks broken in some respect, that's likely going to be her future too.

So true. My ex-wife was a beautiful, sweet, good-natured young woman. Her mother was a fat, ugly, argumentative, hellish shrew. Guess what the daughter started to turn into after marriage?

(06-29-2014 06:02 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

I can't stress the health aspect enough...Younger guys should consider screening out women who have already had health issues and are on meds for one thing or another. This includes anti-depressants. ... Also, it seems to me that men's bodies are more durable and were built to bounce back, while women tend to acquire health problems and stay sick on some level.

ESPECIALLY anti-depressants! Mental health issues are far, far more serious than, say, a bad back or a family history of arthritis. Ditto eating disorders, addictions, etc. This is the sign of someone with low self-esteem, who feels they are not in control of their life and "acts out" by trying to control some aspect of their life. Women are REALLY good at putting on a smiley face and concealing their problems - and men are really bad at spotting that. A basic rule of thumb: All bad habits will persist and worsen.

(06-29-2014 06:02 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

The idealistic, optimistic me at 25 would have regarded the above advice as cold and unfeeling. Two decades later, I wish someone had told me all this stuff and I'd have had the brains to listen.

Young people rarely take advice; they need to learn from their own mistakes. Maybe one out of fifty actually internalizes what we say. I was probably the same...can't remember ...