[Simeon_Strangelight]

HOLLABACK!

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According to the CDC “non-contact unwanted sexual experiences,” including street harassment, are the most prevalent form of sexual violence for both men and women in the United States. Internationally, studies show that between 70-99% of women experience street harassment at some point during their lives. Comments from “You’d look good on me” to groping, flashing and assault are a daily, global reality for women and LGBTQ individuals, but street harassment is rarely reported, and culturally accepted as ‘the price you pay’ for being a woman or for being gay. The long-term impacts include depression, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress disorder, as well as a reduced sense of safety that can limit earnings, decrease mobility, and interrupt their ability to fully engage with civic life. Below you’ll find additional research on street harassment. - See more at: http://www.ihollaback.org/research/#stha...RA1sK.dpuf

I guess stopping a girl and asking her about the nearest pet shop or telling her how nice her eyes sparkle is becoming a crime.

http://www.ihollaback.org/

Look at the video - they even had 2 PUAs opening 2 girls with admittedly some mediocre Game. Those are the supposed dangerous street-harrassers that restrict the special snowflake's "right for a free public space".

HOLLABACK! - it is a Canadian Feminist NGO that seems to branch out internationally now and is even supported by governments and international feminist organisations. Look also at the countries where it already exists - mostly Western ones, but also reaching out in EE (they opened a branch in fucking Nepal for God's sake!).

Needless to say - the main agitators are the usual fugly feminists aided by brainwashed Manginas.

In my opinion it is an attempt to induce self-policing by the population, so that any man approaching a woman is seen as a creep and sex-offender. Let any girl be brainwashed into carrying a rape-pipe and using it whenever someone asks her about the time of day.

Also look at the organizations funding it:
http://www.ihollaback.org/about/donors/

The Empire is truly out to nip everything in the butt. It feels like 1984 evermore, where sex shall at least be highly restricted.

The most hypocritical about it is that the Elite is engaging in underage-model-orgies, G7 politicians get escorts sent to their rooms on tax-payer-cost (came out even in Canadian Newspapers), the corporate world is charging their model-escort-expenses to company credit cards (seen it even myself), there is a huge net of pedophile organisations covered by high positions (Dutroux - http://www.nytimes.com/1999/12/16/news/1...s.2.t.html - where even the fucking mainstream media admits that it is fishy) - all of this is fine - while a couple of guys trying to get laid because of their unleashing of female hypergamy & AFBB-strategy - those guys are the bloody enemy.

Long-term you gotta really be thinking about a Hugh-Hefner-Style manosphere island in the Pacific filled with sluts to the brim.

[Roosh]

Approaching women is being elevated to a political act of defiance against feminism and the power they are achieving.

Relevant article I recommend: http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/06/...evolution/

[Thoroughbred]

Infecting this side of the pacific as well:

http://melbourne.ihollaback.org/2013/08/...-movement/

[xpatplayer]

Not too worried about it. In the end, its only women with unhealthy attitudes about sex who are going to adopt it. They may corrupt a few good ones but by and large their movement will be comprised of ugly and crazy chicks.

On the flipside, we're going to see an uptick in cockblocks.

Edi: Interesting you mention feminist empire. The whole movement is comprised of Women's studies majors who couldn't get any other jobs.

[Matt3B]

Just like most feminist shite I see on the internet about making massive changes in society, the people I interact with seem non the wiser to it.

I highly doubt this is going to make much difference, if any at all.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-22-2014 06:09 AM)MattC Wrote:  

Just like most feminist shite I see on the internet about making massive changes in society, the people I interact with seem non the wiser to it.

I highly doubt this is going to make much difference, if any at all.

It will take some time - maybe 20 years or longer, but step by step always pushing the envelope farther.... No one thought that a bunch of bra-burning bushy-armpit-waving feminists could change the traditional ways of the 1950s, but here we are.

Women will not change their basic nature anyway - Game might have to be adjusted regionally focusing more on Night Game (CMQ style) or going even more indirect. Worst case you can always play the undercover feminist with some cocky dominance on the side.

It is however telling how many Players from the Manosphere travel the world and usually avoid the Western countries (Roosh, Krauser, Torrero, Swooptheworld etc.) - it is not a coincidence.

On the other hand the current porn-generation is sluttier than ever in the US & UK. The carousel has to be ridden somewhere - maybe they will flock more into bars and clubs and get all tindered by dudes they met online.

[runsonmagic]

Women who worry a lot about this sort of thing tend to be in the low 6-8 range.

9-10s are always super friendly, though a bit harder to close.

When I saw this I thought, it was bit a moot point because if a woman asks you to leave her alone, you leave, so what's the big deal? But then I remembered what feminists have done to the word "no" and consent, and realized this could mean you could get jailed for failing to read non-verbal cues, or if your approach goes south and at the end, she decides she didn't like it.

Europe is looking better everyday.



BTW, the article Roosh posted is amazing. Re-post:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/06/...evolution/

[StrikeBack]

(06-22-2014 07:12 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Women who worry a lot about this sort of thing tend to be in the low 6-8 range.

The ones among my acquaintances who rabbit on about this stuff are in the 3-6 range. Most are closer to 3 than 6.

I simply don't believe they're being hit on at all.

[runsonmagic]

(06-22-2014 07:28 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:12 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Women who worry a lot about this sort of thing tend to be in the low 6-8 range.

The ones among my acquaintances who rabbit on about this stuff are in the 3-6 range. Most are closer to 3 than 6.

I simply don't believe they're being hit on at all.

The percent goes up the lower you get.

Jealousy is a bitch.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-22-2014 07:46 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Jealousy is a bitch.

Then of course after the impact of the Wall most would love to be sexually harrassed on the street even by some fat unattractive dude - but to their chagrin they remain invisible.

The texts on the website are just terrible:

Here an experience by some virgin girl whose first date was obviously with a more dominant guy and she could not say no:

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"I was raised in a house where only the father was right. At the same time kept me away from the boys. Even when I tried to bring her friend was a conflict. Unfortunately, it had consequences, and it's terrible. At age 20, I was immature and naive as a child. When I met one of the guys through the Internet, I thought it would be like in the movies - dating, falling in love for the first time by candlelight. When suddenly during the first walk offered me a kiss I agreed even though I was not ready for it. It was not romantic. This meeting remained trauma. I could not refuse, because I could not. Then he offered a ride to the hotel. Also I could not refuse. I do not even remember the first time I do not know why. In the morning he had me down to the hospital where they told me that it was impossible that normal sex got such a wound. Then I had a boyfriend with whom I tried to open it and he ridiculed me that I should be an actress comedienne. For four years I was alone. Getting started having sexual feelings until two years ago. I'm afraid of guys, I'm afraid of commitment, I hate my body, I hate men.

In this case an unexperienced and likely emotionally disturbed girl blames all men, because she "could not say no". WTF? All the deranged girls just add more and more of their shit into any kind of sexual encounter with men. I guess if she does not concede to sex in written form with 2 witnesses, then everything can be rape or sexual violence.

[soup]

Of course the peopl she note are very involved in this are the typical man haters - lesbians.

I do think that some stuff they talked about is illegal- guys can't be jerking off in public on the trains like that because it's illegal to take your dick out in public.

Does anyone else see the race competent in that video? Almost all the guys they show are black.

The feminist movement is going to be butting up against ACLU pretty soon.

My take away from this is that direct game on the street is going to be very problematic unless you are a physically attractive, well to do looking white guy.

Someone should troll these girls and have a black guy and a white guy approach them at different times with the same type of game, and get their reactions on camera. Then upload that shit so the world can see that the woman who started this movement is probably racist.

Anyway, this is why indirect game is probably going to be the future.

They can't make it illegal to talk to strangers.

[Sonsowey]

Its striking how they redefine "violence" to mean "speech"

"Non contact sexual violence" smh...

This could turn racial quickly. White girls saying they were the victims of sexual violence because a Dominican guy whistled at them...

[CRR]

(06-22-2014 07:28 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:12 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Women who worry a lot about this sort of thing tend to be in the low 6-8 range.

The ones among my acquaintances who rabbit on about this stuff are in the 3-6 range. Most are closer to 3 than 6.

I simply don't believe they're being hit on at all.

This is 100% my experience as well.

As I said, during the whole Elliot Rodger scenario, a quick look at social media showed there was a direct correlation between how much a woman was #yesallwomen and how fat and unfuckable she was.

The more attractive women may relate to this because they say "I hate when losers hit on me, so sign me up". The 3-6s are on board because they are mad that more desirable men aren't hitting on them.

But in the end, the more attractive women aren't going to be on board, because they don't want the more desirable men to stop hitting on them.

[Truth Teller]

You mean that gays aren't living some sort of fairytale lifestyle that everyone should love or be called a bigot? Heresy!

You can't mean to tell me that gay men don't live the ideal lifestyle!

[2Wycked]

Read one of the linked articles on standpoint theory about sexual harassment.

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Unwanted sexual attention was experienced by males as enjoyable.

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Women believe that by sharing power, they are increasing their own power. Women cannot understand why men refuse to share power, because by doing so, they would be increasing their own power. Men cannot believe that women, when given power, would not use to silence men's voices.

This came on the heels of a lengthy discussion that men view power (a term they don't seem to understand at all) as a zero-sum game and only views relationships as pure hierarchies and use sexual harassment to reinforce gendered norms.

They further posit that since women are marginalized, they understand society better than men and, as such, have access to empathy that is denied to men. Women view power as personal autonomy, strengthening other's voices and bettering organizations and society.

TL;DR: Those stupid, emotionless men don't understand that if we give women power, all sorts of good stuff will happen!

[Slick Shimmer]

This shit makes me laugh. I'll just keep on day-sniping.

[Dusty]

(06-22-2014 06:02 AM)xpatplayer Wrote:  

Not too worried about it. In the end, its only women with unhealthy attitudes about sex who are going to adopt it. They may corrupt a few good ones but by and large their movement will be comprised of ugly and crazy chicks.

Yup.

I live in the most liberal city in the USA, and I've done my share of street approaches, and not one ever got mad or angry at me or acted like they were being violated. Most act pretty happy that I approached them and many have told me I made their day. I've been out with other guys day gaming, and I see similar responses.

I like to find out who these broads are who feel so violated.

If I ever came across one who acted violated and got angry with me, I'd probably just laugh like Idi Amin at her and move on.

[Suits]

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"I was raised in a house where only the father was right. At the same time kept me away from the boys. Even when I tried to bring her friend was a conflict. Unfortunately, it had consequences, and it's terrible. At age 20, I was immature and naive as a child. When I met one of the guys through the Internet, I thought it would be like in the movies - dating, falling in love for the first time by candlelight. When suddenly during the first walk offered me a kiss I agreed even though I was not ready for it. It was not romantic. This meeting remained trauma. I could not refuse, because I could not. Then he offered a ride to the hotel. Also I could not refuse. I do not even remember the first time I do not know why. In the morning he had me down to the hospital where they told me that it was impossible that normal sex got such a wound. Then I had a boyfriend with whom I tried to open it and he ridiculed me that I should be an actress comedienne. For four years I was alone. Getting started having sexual feelings until two years ago. I'm afraid of guys, I'm afraid of commitment, I hate my body, I hate men.

Which language is this written in?

[Thoroughbred]

(06-22-2014 07:28 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

The ones among my acquaintances who rabbit on about this stuff are in the 3-6 range. Most are closer to 3 than 6.

I simply don't believe they're being hit on at all.

Like this other Melbourne treasure, I'm sure she's beating them off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATISgVUKetI

[Deuce Anna Half]

(06-22-2014 09:20 AM)soup Wrote:  

Of course the peopl she note are very involved in this are the typical man haters - lesbians.

I do think that some stuff they talked about is illegal- guys can't be jerking off in public on the trains like that because it's illegal to take your dick out in public.

Does anyone else see the race competent in that video? Almost all the guys they show are black.

The feminist movement is going to be butting up against ACLU pretty soon.

My take away from this is that direct game on the street is going to be very problematic unless you are a physically attractive, well to do looking white guy.

Someone should troll these girls and have a black guy and a white guy approach them at different times with the same type of game, and get their reactions on camera. Then upload that shit so the world can see that the woman who started this movement is probably racist.

Anyway, this is why indirect game is probably going to be the future.

They can't make it illegal to talk to strangers.

Feminism is edging closer and closer to having a race-war within itself. With shit like "intersectionality", "cultural appropriation" and #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen, to Ami DiFranco having an women's empowerment thing at a plantation and Eve Ensler telling raped African women to dance in order to overcome the trauma, the cracks are growing.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(06-22-2014 08:51 PM)Deuce Anna Half Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 09:20 AM)soup Wrote:  

Of course the peopl she note are very involved in this are the typical man haters - lesbians.

I do think that some stuff they talked about is illegal- guys can't be jerking off in public on the trains like that because it's illegal to take your dick out in public.

Does anyone else see the race competent in that video? Almost all the guys they show are black.

The feminist movement is going to be butting up against ACLU pretty soon.

My take away from this is that direct game on the street is going to be very problematic unless you are a physically attractive, well to do looking white guy.

Someone should troll these girls and have a black guy and a white guy approach them at different times with the same type of game, and get their reactions on camera. Then upload that shit so the world can see that the woman who started this movement is probably racist.

Anyway, this is why indirect game is probably going to be the future.

They can't make it illegal to talk to strangers.

Feminism is edging closer and closer to having a race-war within itself. With shit like "intersectionality", "cultural appropriation" and #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen, to Ami DiFranco having an women's empowerment thing at a plantation and Eve Ensler telling raped African women to dance in order to overcome the trauma, the cracks are growing.

I didn't want to mention this, but since we're going there...

The street harassment campaigns are about urban areas, and in the videos you usually see minority men.* Trying to pass laws about this, to me, seems like a covert attempt to return to Jim Crow-era segregation, where laws were put in place to stop black men from approaching white women.

Once again, we see feminism's attempt to be progressive is really regressive.

*Someone on another thread had pointed this out. I can't find it now. But regarding a linked video where a woman exposed street harassment, a member pointed out that she'd unwittingly exposed her problem was with minority men.

[Seth_Rose]

My dad mentioned to me today the "scandal" with conservative columnist George Will and his article about college rape written a few weeks back:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/g...story.html

There's a thread on it here somewhere. He didn't really understand all the fuss and after I explained it to him he said, "Aren't women just hurting themselves by doing that?"

I asked what he meant. He said that if girls are going to cry rape then men are just going to stop sleeping with them. While men lose out, so do women.

Like xpatplayer and dusty said (or along these lines) once women realize that the're getting laid less, they're going to turn on feminism or at least the attractive women who could be having a lot of sex.

[ColSpanker]

The only time I ever saw "street game" taken to absurd extremes was at a place I used to work. The plant had originally been in Philly, but had relocated to the Burbs years before I arrived. Which meant the dudes in the plant tended to be chocolate and the office workers vanilla. One day a chocolate college graduate woman was hired into the office and she made her one and only mistake of walking into the break room when the plant guys were on lunch. Instantly, every dude surrounded here and introduced themselves, offering to do all kinds of favors, even one guy singing to her. Although it was played for laughs, the incident could have been viewed the wrong way by the right people.

[HawkWrites]

This gets all of my wat.

This seems like nothing more than regular approach game to me. Feminists are just trying to label it as "weird" despite the fact it works and serves as a jumping-off point for other types of game.

If I see a cute lady you're damn right I'm going to approach her and make conversation.

[Truth Teller]

Who are the guys who normally participate in this form of "sexual harassment?"

Working class guys, many of whom are Blacks or Hispanics. There are some white, working class guys. My father grew up with them.

The ultra-feminists going apeshit about "sexual harassment" on the street are generally privileged white girls. This isn't about being endangered, this is about how privileged white women feel that working class white, black, and Hispanic men are beneath them.