[zaqan]

I have found that teasing, mocking, and frustrating girls at work has shaken things up. I think I am in the top group of men, the only problem is that it hasnt been affirmed. One girl seems interested after my extensive mischief, and is giddily troubled by it (calling me mean and abusive, but in a playful, not annoyed, tone). Obviously, I need to make a move very soon, but I keep getting anxiety, too involved in work, and procrastinating.

I can flirt with and talk to her, but I just cant get myself to cross the threshold and say "Hey I want to fuck you in the back parking lot." (maybe I should say that) The weirdest thing about her is that I can tell when shes fertile. Every month, she subtly dolls up a bit; its mindblowing. A few male coworkers I mentioned it to cant understand how I see it. I actually calculated the most recent one to the day.

I always start off the shift well, general workplace joking around to make the day go by. A few days ago, I saw the girl above in the breakroom and walked by, lightly elbowing her without looking. It was perfect execution. She replied "Really, (name)?" And that was it. I didnt approach her again for anything, even to flirt or talk about work, let alone to talk about her changes.

I need to figure out how to pace myself better at work and take unofficial breaks to go check on people or something. I can definitely tell that I was just too focused on work. It also affected a conversation with a manager that I fumbled a bit. I need to work on my assertiveness with people.

Yesterday, I started off well early on again, but as my workpace surged, things went bad. I came upon a group of three girls and a guy who were talking rather than working. The guy was done for the day. They told me to go away and I obeyed. However, I went back and tried to break them up, and mocked them, both for game reasons and because they really should be working. Then, one girl told me to hit this other girl and I obeyed. She angrily came after me and said "dont you touch me again" but I did. She shoved back and we both backed off. I feel the mistake I made was obeying, and I use that word to emphasize how submissive it was. If I could redo, Id either shove the girl who told me to hit the other girl OR having thought more, I would pause and then tug her hair. Shes a quiet little princess who wouldve been caught completely off guard by both being ignored and that move. They did end up breaking up finally.

Later on, this girl who always says hi to me, who seems interested, but she really just isnt attractive to me at all, said "heyyyy" like she always does. And what do I do? I say heyyyy back in a copying tone, rather than the Heartiste recommended "hay is for horses". I did come back with it a bit later, and she laughed, but it was too late to get the full points.

I know this stuff and can analyze it all and what other people do right and wrong, but my real application is mediocre. I suppose I need more practice and to be more slow, deliberate, relaxed, and aware in my interactions.

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Also, is this post too long? I have a tendency to ramble on and feel that its a turnoff.

[AnonymousBosch]

My advice: don't shit where you eat. One pissed-off girl will turn every woman in the workplace against you.

Use the girls for game practice, sure, but apply it to girls outside that sphere.

[Christian McQueen]

Confirming one of the wisest posters on this forum and possibly the wisest man in Australia, I agree with Ab.

Fucking girls at your job is a foolish idea grounded in two aspects of your Non-Game:

-Lack of Law of Abundance
-Lack of concern for your well being.

Putting yourself first is the foundation of Frame and Frame is the foundation of Game.

When sex with her pays your bills, then consider it.

Otherwise, M.O.B at work. Always.

[From Vegas to Tokyo]

There's a key to game in the workplace. Being charming and winning girls over to your side is good. You never know who you will need a favor from down the road and if you are charming, attractive, and friendly there is much more that they will do for you than if you're an idiot with no redeemable qualities. That being said, don't bang them. As I said before, you never know who you are going to need a favor from, and if you are on bad terms with a girl because you pumped and dumped her then you're screwed.

You can always use girls you work with for social proof out at bars, but this one is much more risky. If a girl at work sees you gaming a whole bunch of random girls all the time while she's around, she might get the wrong impression and be turned off. Again, you never know who you will need a favor from.

That's the key to the workplace goes along with game. Use it where you can get a leg up, but don't make any enemies you don't need to make.

[zaqan]

I have seen pros and cons mentioned here and elsewhere, and that it can be done, but also can be risky if not done properly. It does happen all the time, tho. The way I see it is "Be That Guy" in any situation. Also, I am one of the best workers, so I generally have the managers on my side. However, some of these girls are also good, albeit not as good. There is huge risk if it goes wrong, and huge reward if it goes well. However, I do understand your experience and POV. It certainly all has made a lot of great practice. Part of the reason I am here is because of a girl last year at work, and the current ones. It is also fun to be perpetually confusing all of them and not able to be pinned down or figured out.

Last year, I screwed up with a girl who was interested in me at the same place (overnight shift and she was the only girl; now I work days there), so I have dealt with drama/conflicts before and overcame it without much trouble. Worst case scenario: I want to get a new job anyway, so if things go awry, Ill just get out of Dodge. Its an entry level service job; nothing I cant afford to lose.

PS: I was explaining to one of the other girls, something I said to a manager yesterday. She said I was smooth and she liked the that. #practice #success