[hervens]

How do you guys feel about gaming hot girls? Like, the iconic hot chick where every picture they put on facebook gets like 150+ likes.

Personally, I always find it a little difficult building legit connection and trust with a girl that literally every guy and his dog wished they could bang, thus the reason I avoid these overpriced babes.

To me it's like, with a girl like that, even if you manage to get her, you hold no leverage whatsoever. One wrong move, and off she goes to the next alpha wannabe.

What are you're thoughts? Am I being beta?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-15-2014 09:14 AM)hervens Wrote:  

How do you guys feel about gaming hot girls? Like, the iconic hot chick where every picture they put on facebook gets like 150+ likes.

Personally, I always find it a little difficult building legit connection and trust with a girl that literally every guy and his dog wished they could bang, thus the reason I avoid these overpriced babes.

To me it's like, with a girl like that, even if you manage to get her, you hold no leverage whatsoever. One wrong move, and off she goes to the next alpha wannabe.

What are you're thoughts? Am I being beta?

Best way is by doing basic Street Game around Model Agencies and Fashion offices.

A model that gets rejected for the 10th time today is surprisingly vulnerable. Your Game has still to be at least half of Krauser level, but being good-looking you can pull it off with less.

Another crazy idea for richer guys is to have a PR agency create a fake casting and some of the models there. However that is a bit similar to situational Alpha and way less Game is needed. It also depends how much she really is into you, but you get the score nonetheless, since you did not pay for the lay technically speaking. Plus it is a quite pricey to do that.

BTW - I know a guy who actually did this with success.

Gaming them in a club requires a good degree of Game as well as a high level of initial raw attraction best via Good Looking Guy Game. Have seen it sometimes at clubs with tens, but they are 10x more difficult in Night Game than Day Game.

[Blackliter]

Yea, game every girl. most likely you'll be shot down. but its whatever. don't let it get to you and you're set.

Don't waste time on her though. no use appeasing and validating her. hot girls know they're hot, don't need to tell them their pretty (i learned last night, experimented with 4 or 5 hot girls)

Instead need to get them engaged as fast as possible, and then slightly neg them and make it seem like they can't get you. they'll go crazy then.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-15-2014 09:42 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  

Yea, game every girl. most likely you'll be shot down. but its whatever. don't let it get to you and you're set.

Don't waste time on her though. no use appeasing and validating her. hot girls know they're hot, don't need to tell them their pretty (i learned last night, experimented with 4 or 5 hot girls)

Instead need to get them engaged as fast as possible, and then slightly neg them and make it seem like they can't get you. they'll go crazy then.

Yeah - that is some other point - Mystery has a lot on that subject - special negs for Models: "A model, eh? Hand model?"

Also quite a few other negs like: "Oh everyone is coming to LA/NY - the city is full with beatiful girls who want to make it in this town. What sets you apart from the other beautiful girls? Because beauty is temporary anyway you know." That way she starts qualifying to you and actually thinks you care more about her personality than her looks.

Neil Strauss did such a routine on Jessica Alba in her prime back then: (one may think whatever of Strauss, but he did that well)

In the video she actually did not realize that she was gamed, which is funny of course. "Game would not work on me" - hehe

I still think Day Game is 10x better for 9s and 10s than Night-Game unless you are Christian McQeen or a famous actor.

[hervens]

(06-15-2014 10:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 09:42 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  

Yea, game every girl. most likely you'll be shot down. but its whatever. don't let it get to you and you're set.

Don't waste time on her though. no use appeasing and validating her. hot girls know they're hot, don't need to tell them their pretty (i learned last night, experimented with 4 or 5 hot girls)

Instead need to get them engaged as fast as possible, and then slightly neg them and make it seem like they can't get you. they'll go crazy then.

Yeah - that is some other point - Mystery has a lot on that subject - special negs for Models: "A model, eh? Hand model?"

Also quite a few other negs like: "Oh everyone is coming to LA/NY - the city is full with beatiful girls who want to make it in this town. What sets you apart from the other beautiful girls? Because beauty is temporary anyway you know." That way she starts qualifying to you and actually thinks you care more about her personality than her looks.

Neil Strauss did such a routine on Jessica Alba in her prime back then: (one may think whatever of Strauss, but he did that well)

In the video she actually did not realize that she was gamed, which is funny of course. "Game would not work on me" - hehe

I still think Day Game is 10x better for 9s and 10s than Night-Game unless you are Christian McQeen or a famous actor.

That video was gold. I really liked how he put her on the spot and asked her to describe herself. I'm definitely adding that line to my book.

I guess if your're just looking for the bang, negs like this do work. However if your're looking for something a little more substantial, i'd still clear away from these hot girls because of the lack of leverage, unless your're high profile yourself.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-15-2014 11:02 AM)hervens Wrote:  

I guess if your're just looking for the bang, negs like this do work. However if your're looking for something a little more substantial, i'd still clear away from these hot girls because of the lack of leverage, unless your're high profile yourself.

Negs work on anyone. Nuclear negs just sometimes backfire.

Banging a 10 is one thing, having a LTR with a 10 something completely different.

Question: Are the likes of Roosh, Tom Torrero or Nick Krauser worthy of 10s? They are charismatic, have top level Game and are independently financially secure.

A few years before when Krauser started Game he would have never thought that he could actually live with a runway model. Now, why not?

Almost every man can theoretically raise himself to be worthy of a 10. Some just need way more work and time. Will most men be able to raise themselves to that level? No, of course not - it takes tremendous discipline and work or sometimes at least a high enough starting level. But it is not impossible for almost anyone except the physically or mentally stunted or way too old when starting out.

[LaserBear]

I try my hardest not to mark any girl as a 10 mentally, because every "10" I've ever slept with looked like a 7 to me the very next day.
10 is just the pedastol talking.
Moment she's not special (i.e. moment I've had her) I instantly see her flaws.
Never consider a girl a ten, life is easier that way.
Besides, long enough timeline, you'll find a reason she isn't. Life's no fairy tale, perfect girls don't exist.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

But of course...

- easy on the compliments

One thing ALL attractive women have in common is that they are constantly being measure and judged by her looks

I don't even bring up her looks/or physical appearance, because I don't view her as superior to me. If you fall into that "trap" the battle is lost and you are playing an appeasement role.

Instead, look to find out her interests and connect from that angle. Be oblivious to her looks

Come in through the backdoor

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