[EU Explorer]

(06-12-2014 09:20 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 08:52 PM)mandatoryhoes Wrote:  

Tough to get a a job in bcn even before the crisis hit.
spanish girls are fun to drink with but the easiest notched was definatly with the swedish girls who hang out around the skater bars .

does the weak economy equate to lower rents? Maybe I can buy a condo for 30,000 USD? I have EU citizenship, even if I can't get the girls at least they won't be like hostile American androgynes...

You might get a bashed up shithole in the middle of nowhere for that amount but would need significantly more for something more urban.

[Gopnik]

(06-12-2014 09:20 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

does the weak economy equate to lower rents? Maybe I can buy a condo for 30,000 USD? I have EU citizenship, even if I can't get the girls at least they won't be like hostile American androgynes...

Absolutely not. If its BCN that we are talking about, expect to pay at least around 100,000 euro (135,000 usd) for a decent place. This will be the case for most cities and this is now that prices have gone down. A few years ago before the crisis, it wasn't uncommon to pay 500,000 euro for an avg condo. If you are looking for a good European country to invest in real state, I'd focus on E.E, I've heard good things about Bulgaria.

[Bratusek]

(06-13-2014 06:01 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 09:20 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

does the weak economy equate to lower rents? Maybe I can buy a condo for 30,000 USD? I have EU citizenship, even if I can't get the girls at least they won't be like hostile American androgynes...

Absolutely not. If its BCN that we are talking about, expect to pay at least around 100,000 euro (135,000 usd) for a decent place. This will be the case for most cities and this is now that prices have gone down. A few years ago before the crisis, it wasn't uncommon to pay 500,000 euro for an avg condo. If you are looking for a good European country to invest in real state, I'd focus on E.E, I've heard good things about Bulgaria.

where do you live in Spain ?

[Gopnik]

^^@Bratusek Valencia

[thirty-six]

(06-12-2014 09:20 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 08:52 PM)mandatoryhoes Wrote:  

Tough to get a a job in bcn even before the crisis hit.
spanish girls are fun to drink with but the easiest notched was definatly with the swedish girls who hang out around the skater bars .

does the weak economy equate to lower rents? Maybe I can buy a condo for 30,000 USD? I have EU citizenship, even if I can't get the girls at least they won't be like hostile American androgynes...

I was hoping for something along those lines, as well, but when I went on my reconnoissance mission to Granada earlier this year I found that there are unfortunately no such deals to be had. I think a few years ago you'd see stories pop up in the British papers about guys buying entire villages for 20K Euro and stuff like that, but I think most of those were fluff stories that left out a lot of the true numbers behind the numbers. Besides, people are better off being foreclosed upon or declaring bankruptcy than giving away their properties for next to nothing. And speaking of that, I have no idea what a bureaucratic nightmare it would be to try to buy something bank-owned there.

[Bratusek]

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

(06-05-2014 03:11 PM)rey Wrote:  

I'm Spanish studying in the UK but spend my holidays back home here in Spain. You will struggle when looking for a job. If you don't have a degree then I hope you are billingual or better (German is of a considerably higher demand than English). If you do get a job it will most probably be in the tourism sector where speaking more than one language is key.

As for the nationality I believe you need to be a resident for at least 5 years. However, some countries have agreements with Spain (such as in South America) to get the nationality at an earlier stage.

I recently landed a summer job through contacts. If it wasn't through a contact I would have close to 0% chance of getting a job anywhere for the summer season as a Spanish resident speaking English, Spanish and Catalan. Completed high school and on my first year of Computer Science.

Also why are you going for Madrid? I honestly suggest cities such as Valencia, Mallorca and Barcelona if you are going to move to Spain for the beach.

(06-05-2014 04:56 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:04 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

Say whaaa on paella? Haha. I love that stuff

me too, but only 1 out of 100 restaurants will do it properly.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

It is recovering, just like portuguese economy, however it's still in the shitter. It doesn't really matter if you're 5cm under the surface or 5m. in the end, you're still covered in shit.

(06-12-2014 06:52 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

I'm also Spanish and I concur with those saying that the economy is shit at the moment. I suggest you learn Spanish first and you try to pick up some contacts before searching for jobs here (I guess it also depends on what kind of job you want to do).

As for the paella thing, if you try it somewhere in the "Comunidad Valenciana", it will be properly done 99% of the time, whereas in places like Madrid or Barcelona... not so much.

To be honest I wouldn't quite recommend Spain for long term living right now. There's other cool places in Europe that are cheaper and probably have better job opportunities (Poland, Romania, Croatia...etc). Also Eastern European women >> Mediterranean Women, although that's just my opinon

The main strong aspects of Spain are the lifestyle, culture, climate (which I hate- it's too warm during 4-5 months of the year) and perhaps women if you come from the US (can't really tell, since I've never been there).

If the startup gig works or you find a job I think you can apply for a working visa, but I'm not really sure.

my friend from Madrid told me that the economy is recovering,and that it will be even higher from now till the long term

I have done a quick search on the internet and i have found this news,the trend is that the economy will strongly recover little by little:

http://www.brecorder.com/world/global-bu...ister.html

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politic...ster-says/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/art...?id=224069

[EU Explorer]

(06-17-2014 03:28 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

(06-05-2014 03:11 PM)rey Wrote:  

I'm Spanish studying in the UK but spend my holidays back home here in Spain. You will struggle when looking for a job. If you don't have a degree then I hope you are billingual or better (German is of a considerably higher demand than English). If you do get a job it will most probably be in the tourism sector where speaking more than one language is key.

As for the nationality I believe you need to be a resident for at least 5 years. However, some countries have agreements with Spain (such as in South America) to get the nationality at an earlier stage.

I recently landed a summer job through contacts. If it wasn't through a contact I would have close to 0% chance of getting a job anywhere for the summer season as a Spanish resident speaking English, Spanish and Catalan. Completed high school and on my first year of Computer Science.

Also why are you going for Madrid? I honestly suggest cities such as Valencia, Mallorca and Barcelona if you are going to move to Spain for the beach.

(06-05-2014 04:56 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:04 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

Say whaaa on paella? Haha. I love that stuff

me too, but only 1 out of 100 restaurants will do it properly.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

It is recovering, just like portuguese economy, however it's still in the shitter. It doesn't really matter if you're 5cm under the surface or 5m. in the end, you're still covered in shit.

(06-12-2014 06:52 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

I'm also Spanish and I concur with those saying that the economy is shit at the moment. I suggest you learn Spanish first and you try to pick up some contacts before searching for jobs here (I guess it also depends on what kind of job you want to do).

As for the paella thing, if you try it somewhere in the "Comunidad Valenciana", it will be properly done 99% of the time, whereas in places like Madrid or Barcelona... not so much.

To be honest I wouldn't quite recommend Spain for long term living right now. There's other cool places in Europe that are cheaper and probably have better job opportunities (Poland, Romania, Croatia...etc). Also Eastern European women >> Mediterranean Women, although that's just my opinon

The main strong aspects of Spain are the lifestyle, culture, climate (which I hate- it's too warm during 4-5 months of the year) and perhaps women if you come from the US (can't really tell, since I've never been there).

If the startup gig works or you find a job I think you can apply for a working visa, but I'm not really sure.

my friend from Madrid told me that the economy is recovering,and that it will be even higher from now till the long term

I have done a quick search on the internet and i have found this news,the trend is that the economy will strongly recover little by little:

http://www.brecorder.com/world/global-bu...ister.html

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politic...ster-says/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/art...?id=224069

I cannot see strong growth based on limited export opportunities + huge youth unemployment + 7 years worth of unsold homes and banks in serious debt.

[Bratusek]

(06-17-2014 04:56 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 03:28 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

(06-05-2014 03:11 PM)rey Wrote:  

I'm Spanish studying in the UK but spend my holidays back home here in Spain. You will struggle when looking for a job. If you don't have a degree then I hope you are billingual or better (German is of a considerably higher demand than English). If you do get a job it will most probably be in the tourism sector where speaking more than one language is key.

As for the nationality I believe you need to be a resident for at least 5 years. However, some countries have agreements with Spain (such as in South America) to get the nationality at an earlier stage.

I recently landed a summer job through contacts. If it wasn't through a contact I would have close to 0% chance of getting a job anywhere for the summer season as a Spanish resident speaking English, Spanish and Catalan. Completed high school and on my first year of Computer Science.

Also why are you going for Madrid? I honestly suggest cities such as Valencia, Mallorca and Barcelona if you are going to move to Spain for the beach.

(06-05-2014 04:56 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:04 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

Say whaaa on paella? Haha. I love that stuff

me too, but only 1 out of 100 restaurants will do it properly.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

It is recovering, just like portuguese economy, however it's still in the shitter. It doesn't really matter if you're 5cm under the surface or 5m. in the end, you're still covered in shit.

(06-12-2014 06:52 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

I'm also Spanish and I concur with those saying that the economy is shit at the moment. I suggest you learn Spanish first and you try to pick up some contacts before searching for jobs here (I guess it also depends on what kind of job you want to do).

As for the paella thing, if you try it somewhere in the "Comunidad Valenciana", it will be properly done 99% of the time, whereas in places like Madrid or Barcelona... not so much.

To be honest I wouldn't quite recommend Spain for long term living right now. There's other cool places in Europe that are cheaper and probably have better job opportunities (Poland, Romania, Croatia...etc). Also Eastern European women >> Mediterranean Women, although that's just my opinon

The main strong aspects of Spain are the lifestyle, culture, climate (which I hate- it's too warm during 4-5 months of the year) and perhaps women if you come from the US (can't really tell, since I've never been there).

If the startup gig works or you find a job I think you can apply for a working visa, but I'm not really sure.

my friend from Madrid told me that the economy is recovering,and that it will be even higher from now till the long term

I have done a quick search on the internet and i have found this news,the trend is that the economy will strongly recover little by little:

http://www.brecorder.com/world/global-bu...ister.html

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politic...ster-says/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/art...?id=224069

I cannot see strong growth based on limited export opportunities + huge youth unemployment + 7 years worth of unsold homes and banks in serious debt.

you have no idea about what are you speaking about

[Bratusek]

(06-17-2014 12:12 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

^^@Bratusek Valencia

it was amazing Valencia! i visited it last Eastern ,also with Alicante and Almeria

[EU Explorer]

(06-18-2014 12:23 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 04:56 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 03:28 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:02 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Don't eat paella.
Don't drink sangria, especially the bottled one.
Try to speak spanish.

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

(06-05-2014 03:11 PM)rey Wrote:  

I'm Spanish studying in the UK but spend my holidays back home here in Spain. You will struggle when looking for a job. If you don't have a degree then I hope you are billingual or better (German is of a considerably higher demand than English). If you do get a job it will most probably be in the tourism sector where speaking more than one language is key.

As for the nationality I believe you need to be a resident for at least 5 years. However, some countries have agreements with Spain (such as in South America) to get the nationality at an earlier stage.

I recently landed a summer job through contacts. If it wasn't through a contact I would have close to 0% chance of getting a job anywhere for the summer season as a Spanish resident speaking English, Spanish and Catalan. Completed high school and on my first year of Computer Science.

Also why are you going for Madrid? I honestly suggest cities such as Valencia, Mallorca and Barcelona if you are going to move to Spain for the beach.

(06-05-2014 04:56 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:04 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Say whaaa on paella? Haha. I love that stuff

me too, but only 1 out of 100 restaurants will do it properly.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

It is recovering, just like portuguese economy, however it's still in the shitter. It doesn't really matter if you're 5cm under the surface or 5m. in the end, you're still covered in shit.

(06-12-2014 06:52 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

I'm also Spanish and I concur with those saying that the economy is shit at the moment. I suggest you learn Spanish first and you try to pick up some contacts before searching for jobs here (I guess it also depends on what kind of job you want to do).

As for the paella thing, if you try it somewhere in the "Comunidad Valenciana", it will be properly done 99% of the time, whereas in places like Madrid or Barcelona... not so much.

To be honest I wouldn't quite recommend Spain for long term living right now. There's other cool places in Europe that are cheaper and probably have better job opportunities (Poland, Romania, Croatia...etc). Also Eastern European women >> Mediterranean Women, although that's just my opinon

The main strong aspects of Spain are the lifestyle, culture, climate (which I hate- it's too warm during 4-5 months of the year) and perhaps women if you come from the US (can't really tell, since I've never been there).

If the startup gig works or you find a job I think you can apply for a working visa, but I'm not really sure.

my friend from Madrid told me that the economy is recovering,and that it will be even higher from now till the long term

I have done a quick search on the internet and i have found this news,the trend is that the economy will strongly recover little by little:

http://www.brecorder.com/world/global-bu...ister.html

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politic...ster-says/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/art...?id=224069

I cannot see strong growth based on limited export opportunities + huge youth unemployment + 7 years worth of unsold homes and banks in serious debt.

you have no idea about what are you speaking about

An optimist is just a pessimist who is not in possession of all the facts is all I can say to that. Please don't get blinded by the politicians rhetoric

[Bratusek]

(06-12-2014 10:08 AM)copac Wrote:  

I lived in both Cadiz and Valencia and I would move back to either of those in heartbeat - great weather, friendly people and a laid-back lifestyle.

If you are working on a start-up then definitely base yourself in either Madrid or Barcelona. Then again, if its an online venture then you can live wherever you please.

Ask some more specific questions and we'll help you out.

how long were you living in Valencia? which are your impressions about both cities?

I have some questions:

*What do I need to do to get the residence permit?

*In overall,how would you define spanish people compared with the other countries of Europe ?(general idea)

[el conquistador]

Quote:

how long were you living in Valencia? which are your impressions about both cities?

I have some questions:

*What do I need to do to get the residence permit?

*In overall,how would you define spanish people compared with the other countries of Europe ?(general idea)

Cadiz: The ‘Deep South’ of Spain and has the thickest Spanish accent you will ever hear. Its worse than Dominican spanish. Don’t go there if you want to improve your Spanish listening skills.

There is a big ‘Erasmus’/overseas student population there so the old town will be full of American, German, English etc. students. This could either be good or bad depending on what you like.

Great beaches, over 300 days of sunshine a year. Whats there not to like?

Well..the local dialect and you might get a bit bored…

However, if you are based in Cadiz then there are lots of cool places you can travel to for a weekend: Sevilla, Gibraltar, Malaga even Portugal and Morocco.

Valencia: Much more of a modern city than Cadiz but the weather and beaches are just as good. Great subway system.

One odd incident that sticks in my mind is going out with two local guys on a Tuesday night and it was DEAD. A complete morgue. Nada.
Strange for a big city that has a reputation in Spain for partying hard.

Valencia wins by a hair just for being richer with better infrastructure.

[EU Explorer]

(06-18-2014 12:54 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:23 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 04:56 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 03:28 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:56 PM)void Wrote:  

Economy is shit at the moment (especially for young people), prepare yourself for a long job search. Speak Spanish fluently.

(06-05-2014 03:02 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

why dont eat paella? its delicious dude!lol

the economy as people say nowadays from Spain and the media,both say that is recovering.

Also,friends who are living there,say that if you're stubborn and ambitious looking for a job,you can find it,and also with career promotion.

(06-05-2014 03:11 PM)rey Wrote:  

I'm Spanish studying in the UK but spend my holidays back home here in Spain. You will struggle when looking for a job. If you don't have a degree then I hope you are billingual or better (German is of a considerably higher demand than English). If you do get a job it will most probably be in the tourism sector where speaking more than one language is key.

As for the nationality I believe you need to be a resident for at least 5 years. However, some countries have agreements with Spain (such as in South America) to get the nationality at an earlier stage.

I recently landed a summer job through contacts. If it wasn't through a contact I would have close to 0% chance of getting a job anywhere for the summer season as a Spanish resident speaking English, Spanish and Catalan. Completed high school and on my first year of Computer Science.

Also why are you going for Madrid? I honestly suggest cities such as Valencia, Mallorca and Barcelona if you are going to move to Spain for the beach.

(06-05-2014 04:56 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

me too, but only 1 out of 100 restaurants will do it properly.


It is recovering, just like portuguese economy, however it's still in the shitter. It doesn't really matter if you're 5cm under the surface or 5m. in the end, you're still covered in shit.

(06-12-2014 06:52 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

I'm also Spanish and I concur with those saying that the economy is shit at the moment. I suggest you learn Spanish first and you try to pick up some contacts before searching for jobs here (I guess it also depends on what kind of job you want to do).

As for the paella thing, if you try it somewhere in the "Comunidad Valenciana", it will be properly done 99% of the time, whereas in places like Madrid or Barcelona... not so much.

To be honest I wouldn't quite recommend Spain for long term living right now. There's other cool places in Europe that are cheaper and probably have better job opportunities (Poland, Romania, Croatia...etc). Also Eastern European women >> Mediterranean Women, although that's just my opinon

The main strong aspects of Spain are the lifestyle, culture, climate (which I hate- it's too warm during 4-5 months of the year) and perhaps women if you come from the US (can't really tell, since I've never been there).

If the startup gig works or you find a job I think you can apply for a working visa, but I'm not really sure.

my friend from Madrid told me that the economy is recovering,and that it will be even higher from now till the long term

I have done a quick search on the internet and i have found this news,the trend is that the economy will strongly recover little by little:

http://www.brecorder.com/world/global-bu...ister.html

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politic...ster-says/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/art...?id=224069

I cannot see strong growth based on limited export opportunities + huge youth unemployment + 7 years worth of unsold homes and banks in serious debt.

you have no idea about what are you speaking about

An optimist is just a pessimist who is not in possession of all the facts is all I can say to that. Please don't get blinded by the politicians rhetoric

Bratusek just to explain I do love Spain but its going to take another 7-10 years to sort their economy out. They have 95% debt to GDP and an estimated 1.5M unsold homes + 50% youth unemployment. As with any country certain sectors and areas perform better so if for example if you are going into digital marketing in Barcelona things could be good. I wish you luck with your future and it is a great country to live in with beautiful weather and nice people.

[Bratusek]

(06-20-2014 02:31 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:54 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:23 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 04:56 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 03:28 PM)Bratusek Wrote:  

my friend from Madrid told me that the economy is recovering,and that it will be even higher from now till the long term

I have done a quick search on the internet and i have found this news,the trend is that the economy will strongly recover little by little:

http://www.brecorder.com/world/global-bu...ister.html

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politic...ster-says/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/art...?id=224069

I cannot see strong growth based on limited export opportunities + huge youth unemployment + 7 years worth of unsold homes and banks in serious debt.

you have no idea about what are you speaking about

An optimist is just a pessimist who is not in possession of all the facts is all I can say to that. Please don't get blinded by the politicians rhetoric

Bratusek just to explain I do love Spain but its going to take another 7-10 years to sort their economy out. They have 95% debt to GDP and an estimated 1.5M unsold homes + 50% youth unemployment. As with any country certain sectors and areas perform better so if for example if you are going into digital marketing in Barcelona things could be good. I wish you luck with your future and it is a great country to live in with beautiful weather and nice people.

% debt to GDP:

United Kingdom-->90.6
France-->91.8
Spain-->93.90
Germany-->78.40

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/country-...ebt-to-gdp

what about that?