So I've recently set myself a 100-approach goal and have opened at least 2 mixed gender groups during daytime. That's what my thread pertains to although anything that applies to night time is appreciated.
First one was last Saturday at my local market. Opened my quarry directly by name (had previously gamed her but didn't number close). She was part of 2 couples that had just then bumped into each other -- it doesn't look like she's in a relationship but I'd a feeling she's at least sleeping with the guy she's with. Her reaction was playful, almost playful while she tried to guess how she knew me.
Eventually engaged with the rest of the group with small talk about groceries, skateboarding etc. Didn't sense overt cockblocking -- they appear hippy so unlikely to be territorial alphas -- but took a hint from the other girl and made my way.
#2: on campus just then. Opened a trio passing around a rugby ball on the lawns, asked to join in. Small talk throughout, didn't attempt to be too alpha-dominant. I was left alone with my quarry (blonde 8, she actually plays it). The group eventually broke the game to study, I didn't bother to stick around.
Beyond some exchanges of smiles while passing the ball to me, I didn't receive a huge amount of IOIs from her even when left alone -- at one point then she went: "You catch really well". Me (smiling): "I learnt fast in high school" She: "Oh, OK"....upon leaving the group, didn't get a last smile or such from her.
I won't stop approaching sets like this, but such approaches were something I'd never have conceived even 12 months ago unless in an artificial environment (travelling, during festivals etc.).
I guess any qualms I'd face such times would be:
lack of IOIs -- would girls tend to dial them down in a group setting? Should I take that as a deterrent or would they not have been interested in the first place? Or is it just general game?
Focus -- upon the entire set, or on my target? There are times when my intentions on my quarry are pretty blatant, others when my attention is equally on the group.
My eventual options are:
Make my own way along -- probably the most beta. You're banking on the chance you'll bump into them somewhere later. I'd say it's a mindset I need to divorce myself from.
Integrate myself into their circle -- you might arrange to hangout with said set later on; maybe you've established enough commonality that you go to the same parties or have friendship circles a few degrees separated something. Or you could end up studying/jamming together (I've been hanging out with musician types). Might involve number-closing one of the group.
Number-close your quarry directly -- I reckon it's the most alpha. It's ballsy for sure and you're taking a huge gamble. You'll put a lot of focus on her within the group. Might need the surety of IOIs prior.
Insofar as tackling the above factors, am I on the right track? Or should my general game be worked on first? I do have frame, escalation and number-closing aspects to tighten so that might need attention first.
Cheers
First one was last Saturday at my local market. Opened my quarry directly by name (had previously gamed her but didn't number close). She was part of 2 couples that had just then bumped into each other -- it doesn't look like she's in a relationship but I'd a feeling she's at least sleeping with the guy she's with. Her reaction was playful, almost playful while she tried to guess how she knew me.
Eventually engaged with the rest of the group with small talk about groceries, skateboarding etc. Didn't sense overt cockblocking -- they appear hippy so unlikely to be territorial alphas -- but took a hint from the other girl and made my way.
#2: on campus just then. Opened a trio passing around a rugby ball on the lawns, asked to join in. Small talk throughout, didn't attempt to be too alpha-dominant. I was left alone with my quarry (blonde 8, she actually plays it). The group eventually broke the game to study, I didn't bother to stick around.
Beyond some exchanges of smiles while passing the ball to me, I didn't receive a huge amount of IOIs from her even when left alone -- at one point then she went: "You catch really well". Me (smiling): "I learnt fast in high school" She: "Oh, OK"....upon leaving the group, didn't get a last smile or such from her.
I won't stop approaching sets like this, but such approaches were something I'd never have conceived even 12 months ago unless in an artificial environment (travelling, during festivals etc.).
I guess any qualms I'd face such times would be:
lack of IOIs -- would girls tend to dial them down in a group setting? Should I take that as a deterrent or would they not have been interested in the first place? Or is it just general game?
Focus -- upon the entire set, or on my target? There are times when my intentions on my quarry are pretty blatant, others when my attention is equally on the group.
My eventual options are:
Make my own way along -- probably the most beta. You're banking on the chance you'll bump into them somewhere later. I'd say it's a mindset I need to divorce myself from.
Integrate myself into their circle -- you might arrange to hangout with said set later on; maybe you've established enough commonality that you go to the same parties or have friendship circles a few degrees separated something. Or you could end up studying/jamming together (I've been hanging out with musician types). Might involve number-closing one of the group.
Number-close your quarry directly -- I reckon it's the most alpha. It's ballsy for sure and you're taking a huge gamble. You'll put a lot of focus on her within the group. Might need the surety of IOIs prior.
Insofar as tackling the above factors, am I on the right track? Or should my general game be worked on first? I do have frame, escalation and number-closing aspects to tighten so that might need attention first.
Cheers