[Ethan Amarante]

Glasgow, Scotland: Datasheet Contents

Personal background
........Relevant personal information
Justification for datasheet
My experience
........Months 1-3
........Months 4-6
........Months 7-10
Male competition
Women
Nightlife venues
........Garage nightclub
........O2 ABC
........Campus
........Jumpin’ Jacks
........Buddha bar
........Varsity
........Boteco
........Corinthians
........NOTE: Hip-hop clubs
Glasgow-specific hints and tips
Summary
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Personal background
After spending a year working in East Asia, I decided to come back to the English-speaking world and earn better money. Glasgow seemed like an ideal location, given the city’s interesting reputation of being squalid yet cultured, but most importantly, a good laugh. As an Englishman, Scotland isn’t my home country but the culture is similar enough for me to feel like this was a return to home territory.

Relevant personal information
•........Age: 26
•........Height: 185 cm (approx.)
•........Ethnicity: Mixed European
•........Accent: Strong London (borderline cockney to a non-Londoner, but slowly fading)
•........Self evaluation of looks: 7.5/10
•........Self evaluation of style: 9/10
*................Style: Punk (kind of)
•........Average spending / month: £2000
•........Game level: Intermediate (on and off for a few years)
•........Preferred game type: Nightclubs, occasionally websites and phone applications, generally with a wing or two, but 50% of the time I’m with a wing, we’ll go our separate ways when in a club
•........Regular wings: 1*25 y/o Scottish male (local PUA), 1*25 y/o Scottish female (would probably be a PUA if she was a guy)
•........Time spent in Glasgow: 10 months (12 months but with a gap of around two months which spent in a few other European cities)

Justification for datasheet
This datasheet is intended to give an account of life in what I regard as one of the best cities in the UK for game.

My experience
In the first section I’ve provided pictures. Please note that they are not the actual women I slept with. They are intended to give you an idea of my rating system and the type of women you can meet in Glasgow. A question mark (‘?’) after the age signifies that I’m making an estimate.

I’d like to have had more nights out in Glasgow and more notches on the old bedpost but didn’t have as much time on my hands as I would usually do. Bring on next year, when I’ll have basically nothing tying me down.

Months 1-3
1.22 y/o I met online before arriving (a few times over a few weeks) (8/10 looks [like the girl in the photo but with a wonkier face])


2.22 y/o I met in Nice ‘n’ Sleazy bar… I think (8/10 looks and very nice to hang around with)



3.26? y/o I met at O2 ABC nightclub (6/10 looks [not quite as good as this photo and with shorter blonde hair])



4.24? y/o I met in Garage (many times) (9/10 looks and really cool)



Months 4-6

In these months I was too busy to go out and enjoying an unofficial relationship with woman number 4, above… until the last month when she got too attached. I had two one night lays with three women who are borderline ‘neds’ (essentially ‘chavs’ or ‘white trash’).

Like I said, I didn’t always have the opportunity to go out with other responsibilities and a social life completely separate from game. Because of that, I sometimes go out saying that I’ll take home whoever I can, which meant that I settled for these two who I wouldn’t usually go for.

Still, getting with these women changed my attitude a bit because it was pretty good. I’m a lot more open to this sort of thing. Actually, the more I think about it, the more of a weird attraction I have to tacky girls.

Number 6. took literally hours to isolate which was weird because her and her mates were completely up for it. I went though what felt like an endless cycle of being able to get her on her own and put my hand under her jumper and then her mates finding us and cheering her on. I tried to turn this to my advantage my getting a threesome going on but that was a bit of a bridge too far.

5.20? y/o chav from Garage nightclub (once) (6/10 looks)

6.20? y/o chav from Garage nightclub (once) (6/10 looks)



Months 7-10
7.Similar to number 1. Met at O2 ABC (once)

8.Similar to number 1. Met at Garage (once)

9.Similar to 4. Met at Box. (Many times). Didn’t close her on the first night, but she turned into a sort of ‘friend with benefits’. Eventually she decided she wanted more and moved on. This was probably one of the coolest women I’ve met. She’s a professional photographer. We had a lot in common and great sex but I got a bit bored eventually.

10.Similar to 4. Met at Nice ‘n’ Sleazy (once). Closed her a couple of weeks later after staying in touch via text. One time she asked me if she could try deepthroating me. I’ll let you imagine what my answer was. Anyway, to cut a long story short, she ended up vomiting on my cock. I love the weird ones.

Male competition

There is less male competition here than anywhere else I’ve been in the UK. Most dudes dress like this:


Having said that, they are pretty confident. I’ll often make note of other people doing approaches and was frequently impressed by the audacity of local guys. As well as having a PUA wing (who is excellent but not on this forum), I went out with work colleagues a couple of times and they were fairly good naturals.

Guys will tend to back you pretty well if they see you approaching. I’ve never come across player haters here. Nor did I ever come across anyone getting pissed off for me hitting on ‘their women’, despite all my pickup mates in England telling me that would happen.

This was quite a relief for me given how much racism I came across in Korea when talking to women. Replacing that racism with xenophobia would maybe be moving in the right direction, but still not cool. Anyway, it wasn’t a problem.

Women

Basically, there are plenty of different types of women in Glasgow. I tended to mostly sleep with indie/hipster types (girls 2 and 4) and ‘neds’(5 and 6). I like indie/hipster women but if you’re looking for an easy lay, go for the ‘neds’.

They don’t have to be really cheap and tacky, but, to be honest, are often easily impressed by you approaching them with a couple of demonstrations of high value (DHVs). I found that one DHV was simply my accent.

Despite having a terrible reputation, ‘neds’ tend to be pretty cool about casual sex. One girl came back to mine completely sober, got it, and asked ‘are you going to go back out and pull again?’. I though she was joking. She wasn’t.

Putting a bit of extra effort into fashion helped me go for the more attractive indie and hipster types.

Oh, and I got another female wing. I had one once years ago and she reminded me how awesome they are. She’s a bisexual girl who mostly hits on women and helped me out in an incredibly wide range of ways. I’m often sceptical about people who talk as if the whole club is watching them the whole time, but being able to open set after set after talking to a female friend helps a lot.

Nightlife venues

Garage nightclub

This is definitely my favourite place in Glasgow. The beer is cheap, and so is finding sex. I was too busy with work to visit as often as I’d like.

If you come to Glasgow, this place on a Friday or Saturday is a must. About 40% of women here are ‘neds’. Generic people (inc. students) make up approx. 40%. I don’t really know how to categorise the remaining 20%, but there are some fairly interesting types, including goths and rocky types (my favourite).

Women in Garage are probably more sexually liberated than anywhere else I’ve been. One student wanked me off behind a staircase. It was brilliant.

Tip: If you’re solo and want to keep on your toes, browse around the middle floor. If you’re looking for easy openers, go to the smoking area / garden. I number closed four women on in about 20 minutes in that tiny gazebo.

O2 ABC

This is pretty similar to Garage, except it is much bigger and often cheaper. If Garage didn’t work out, I’d generally go here.

Tip: Go early for your stamp, otherwise you’ll be waiting outside for even longer than a regular big club.


Campus

My wing loved it here but I could take it or leave it. It’s basically like a slightly more expensive version of Oceana (chain superclub) past 11 but a pretty boring bar before that.

Tip: Don’t listen to the people telling you they can get you in for free. They’re even bigger liars than regular promoters.


Jumpin’ Jax

I hate this place. It’s perfect if you want to meet sexually frustrated MILFs, though. My PUA wing and I opened a MILF two-set for a laugh which went pretty well until their gigantic biker husbands stood behind us and said something incomprehensible in their harsh Glasgow accents.

I usually fancy myself as a bit of a hard bastard when I’m out but I felt like a little boy at the adult’s table and moved on to the next location, wasting a set I lined up earlier.

Tip: Don’t be as much of a pussy as me if you come here.


Buddha bar

I didn’t pull here but came close once or twice. These were the places where I met my wings and opened a few sets to meet later. This is one of the few places I see Glasgow’s huge Chinese community of Chinese students going out.

Tip: I don’t know for this one. Learn Chinese?


Varsity
Like its name implies, this was full of students, but mostly the more fashionable ones. Unfortunately this does mean that while some people look great, there’s also a lot of annoying pretentious idiots who just look stupid.

I only went here a couple of times but it would be alright as a place to bring a date.

Tip: Consider a pompadour hairstyle and dressing like the Fonz. I’m not joking.

NOTE: My description of Varsity also applies to Nice 'n' Sleazy, except that Nice 'n' Sleazy is slightly cooler, less pretentious and has a gig venue in the basement, which is pretty good.


Boteco
I wasn’t sure whether or not I should include this because I never did anything remotely gamey in here but it deserves at least an honorary mention for having great live music and cocktails. If you’re looking for a bar to bring a date on, this Brazilian bar should definitely be on your shortlist.

Tip: Come here if you can dance salsa.


Corinthians
This is one of a few large casinos in Glasgow. You don’t need to be into gambling to go here but I imagine showing off the size of your wad and lack of understanding of probability helps. (Sorry to anyone who does gamble, I’m only messing).

There’s a club with walls which are covered in padded cushions which make it look like an insane asylum cell and it’s about the same size as one, too. A friend of mine pulled there once but I reckon she was ancient.

Most of the crowd will be 27 or older.

Tip: Come here if you’re paranoid about having your head smashed against a wall by a jealous lover.


NOTE: Hip-hop clubs
Maybe I’m doing something wrong but I’ve always been disappointed by hip-hop nights in this city, it’s the one thing I couldn’t work out. Some do exist but they’ve so far been full of 18 y/o dudes who think they’re Eminem… if Slim Shady was doing a bachelor’s degree in The History of Art.



Glasgow-specific hints and tips

•Don’t bother with the West End (an arty, studenty bit) for picking up. You’ll find it difficult to find anywhere with people in the right mood and setting to be opened.

•Dress appropriately. This goes for wherever you are, but in Glasgow it’s particularly true because it has plenty of regular places with pop and dance music (wear whatever), rocky places (wear rocky clothes, obviously) and casinos (wear a suit).

•Don’t be afraid of asking people to repeat themselves. It’s taken me up to now to understand the locals properly because the English spoken here is very different to what I’m familiar with. Being the guy from an exotic land (even if that happens to be a council estate in North London like me) is incredibly attractive to most Glaswegians. Exotic is only one letter from erotic.

•With ‘ned’ women, go in early, they’ll appreciate it. I’ve never had a problem with confidence, but people here are more forward than anywhere else I’ve been in the UK. I’d usually wait a few minutes before squeezing the arse but dive in after about 60 seconds here. Of course, use good judgement, this doesn’t mean you can sexually assault people in Glasgow, but turn the volume up quicker than you might normally.

•If you are into fashion, you’ll do well here. I hate to say it, but Glasgow is well behind the South of England in terms of what’s cool and being bolder than the locals will help a lot. Note I’m talking about being fashionable, not wearing your furry Mystery hat and 1930s aviator goggles.


Summary

Although I’m English, I’ve not actually spent that much time visiting cities in the UK. Having said that, Glasgow is by a long way my favourite city in Blighty for picking up in. Maybe there are guys out there who’ve been to Manchester who would tell me it’s better than Glasgow and they might very well be right because I’m not able to make as many comparisons as I’d like to, but it doesn’t detract from what Glasgow has to offer.

Stay away from the West End and get yourself to one of the clubs I listed. You’ll be almost guaranteed to get a one night lay with a ‘ned’. If you’re after an indie or hipster girl, you might have to put a bit more work in but your chances here are still pretty high.

Oh, and I recently overheard part of a conversation between an American guy and a Scottish girl. It sounded like the guy was about to bring her home until he mentioned that he thought Scotland was in England. She laughed at him and walked off. Don’t make that mistake.
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P.S. I'm obviously happy to answer any questions and appreciate feedback, particularly because this is my first datasheet.

[jackflag]

I'm going to Glasgow in 2 weeks. What a coincidence. This is like a sign from above. Thanks for the datasheet dude.

[jackflag]

Btw, im a black american guy. Medium tone, 6'2, pretty good looking. Any tips for my specific demographic?

[Ethan Amarante]

(05-26-2014 11:14 PM)jackflag Wrote:  

Btw, im a black american guy. Medium tone, 6'2, pretty good looking. Any tips for my specific demographic?

I'd say that it depends more on what you're looking around here because there's plenty variety. i.e. easy one night lays, f buddies, hipstery girls, etc.

The easiest option would simply be to get on the dancefloor at Garage, pull your best game and get in as many quick approaches as you can. One should eventually work.

Having said that, you might find pulling even easier as there are very few Americans around and even fewer black guys.

[shotgun]

Solid sheet. How is nightlife during the week (Mon-Thurs) in Glasgow?

[jackflag]

(05-27-2014 06:03 AM)Ethan Amarante Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 11:14 PM)jackflag Wrote:  

Btw, im a black american guy. Medium tone, 6'2, pretty good looking. Any tips for my specific demographic?

I'd say that it depends more on what you're looking around here because there's plenty variety. i.e. easy one night lays, f buddies, hipstery girls, etc.

The easiest option would simply be to get on the dancefloor at Garage, pull your best game and get in as many quick approaches as you can. One should eventually work.

Having said that, you might find pulling even easier as there are very few Americans around and even fewer black guys.

Interesting. I'll be rolling solo for the most part, are there any venues that would be less advantageous to a solo traveler than if I was with a group?

I hear you on Garage. I'll be there. I've also heard about Corinthian as a late night spot from another poster. What time do you recommend heading to these places? My initial plan is to pregame a little bit at my room, then head out to pregame a little more and game at the bars.

Being as i'll be one of the only Americans, and for sure one of the only black Americans, as you mentioned, are there any stereotypes I should be looking to avoid or take advantage of? Or a certain way of dressing?

Just curious. I plan on doing what I normally do, but if there's a 'fantasy' to be taken advantage of, I have no problem pretending to be from the Marcy Projects and growing up next door to Jay-z haha.

Btw, i'm there from a thursday to the following monday. Any advice on what spots to hit on particular nights would be well received.

[draguer]

Thanks for writing this up, I might be heading that way in a few months.

How does the cost compare to London? I'm guessing a bit cheaper?

How does Edinburgh compare?

And as the winters are quite harsh up there, does the nightlife tend to quiet down over those months?

[Ethan Amarante]

(05-27-2014 09:23 PM)shotgun Wrote:  

Solid sheet. How is nightlife during the week (Mon-Thurs) in Glasgow?

Cheers.

I did struggle a little to find as much to do on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. If you really want to find something on these evenings, I'd recommend looking for gigs. This might mean going against the advice I have to stay away from the West End if its a quiet night.

Thursdays can be great, though. The mainsteam clubs are large enough to have some of their rooms closed and retain the feel of a busy atmosphere - Garage is particularly good for this. A venue on Sauchiehall Street (where most nightlife can be found) called Box has gigs most nights and is often good on a Thursday.

(05-27-2014 11:50 PM)draguer Wrote:  

Thanks for writing this up, I might be heading that way in a few months.

How does the cost compare to London? I'm guessing a bit cheaper?

How does Edinburgh compare?

And as the winters are quite harsh up there, does the nightlife tend to quiet down over those months?

You're welcome.

Unfortunately I only spent a few days in Edinburgh so can't really give an insightful comparison.

I can tell you that Glasgow is significantly cheaper than London, however. You'll get much better accommodation for your money, in particular. See some metrics below:
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...ty2=London

About whether or not the nightlife quietens down in Winter - I'd say not to a great extent. In the warmer weather people might be more likely to go out earlier, but I don't imagine there's a dramatic difference in terms of how busy a particular venue is between summer and winter.

The demographics of the city probably do change a little between seasons, though, given that some students will not be around between April and September.

(05-27-2014 11:37 PM)jackflag Wrote:  

Interesting. I'll be rolling solo for the most part, 1.are there any venues that would be less advantageous to a solo traveler than if I was with a group?

I hear you on Garage. I'll be there. I've also heard about Corinthian as a late night spot from another poster. 2.What time do you recommend heading to these places? My initial plan is to pregame a little bit at my room, then head out to pregame a little more and game at the bars.

3.Being as i'll be one of the only Americans, and for sure one of the only black Americans, as you mentioned, are there any stereotypes I should be looking to avoid or take advantage of? Or a certain way of dressing?

Just curious. I plan on doing what I normally do, but if there's a 'fantasy' to be taken advantage of, I4. have no problem pretending to be from the Marcy Projects and growing up next door to Jay-z haha.

Btw, i'm 5. there from a thursday to the following monday. Any advice on what spots to hit on particular nights would be well received.

Hey man, to my answer easier to read, I'll go through your questions sequentially.


1. I generally think bigger places are good to go solo, so my advice might reflect that personal bias, which I should probably make clear first. But... I'd say the O2 ABC is a good one because there are at least 4 completely separate rooms which you can move about between and try different things (e.g. dance floor game in the loud, big ones, then move on to regular openers in quieter rooms).

Starting at a gig venue might also work on your own, and there are usually a good few (Box, which I mentioned in my previous post is a good one). I've seen quite a few women in small groups or even on their own at Box.

2. Sorry, I might not be the best person to ask this, because I generally head out very late (11:30 at the earliest), or at least start gaming late after hanging out with friends. If you do want to head out earlier, my advice from the previous answer might help, though.

3. Uuuuum. I mentioned about at least having a basic understanding of the political geography of the UK is useful, e.g. not giving the impression that you think Scotland is in England. The one negative stereotype of Americans I think Scottish people have is that they're ignorant about these things. Scotland is going to have a vote to decide whether or not it should be an independent country later this year. You could use that as an opportunity to show you're not an 'ugly American'.

4. Haha! That sounds like a laugh. I see potential for joking negs - "Do you think all Americans are from the 'hood, then?"

5. If it were me, I'd do something like...
Thur = Box & Nice 'n' Sleazy (Rock)
Frid = Garage / O2 ABC (Mainsteam) (Get tickets for both)
Satu = Garage / O2 ABC (Mainsteam) (Get tickets for both)
Sund = Have a look around Bath Street - it's got a load of smaller bars and clubs, talk to promoters, but I recommend Kushion.

Hope that helps.

[Ethan Amarante]

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[ridiculous_nicholas]

I was there in March, I can vouch for Boteco. If you miss Rio its a great place to spend an hour in. There were 2 portuguese girls sitting next to me at the bar talking to this 45 year old middle eastern guy that smelled like he had never heard of deodorant. I started to talk to one of the girls as she looked bored and this guy just came over the top of me, turns out he was the owner or regional manager or something.

A couple of other places I might recommend:

1. The Sub Club. Its an underground night club that seemed gross and dingy, couldn't really tell as it was so dark but good place none the less. The first time in Glasgow I met a girl and she took me there for Chicago House music night. last time I was there I couldn't get in because of some dj that sold the place out.

2. Republic Bier Halle. I don't know about gaming but this is a great place if you are into beer. They have over 100 different beers from around the world. The only weird thing about this place is there is no tabs, you have to pay after every beer.

[Ethan Amarante]

(06-04-2014 12:30 AM)ridiculous_nicholas Wrote:  

A couple of other places I might recommend:

1. The Sub Club. Its an underground night club that seemed gross and dingy, couldn't really tell as it was so dark but good place none the less. The first time in Glasgow I met a girl and she took me there for Chicago House music night. last time I was there I couldn't get in because of some dj that sold the place out.

I went here for the first time very recently and absolutely agree that it's worth a recommendation.

I avoided it up to this point because I'm not a huge fan of house music (and related genres) which they play a lot of there.

The clientele was much more fun than other clubs which play house music that I've been to. Cheers for the additional info.

[TheChi]

I'll add on a little bit since I was recently in Glasgow.

Buff Club - Bumpin on Tuesdays for this event called Killer Kitsch. This is where I got the flag.

Bamboo - This was super crowded on Wedneday, but the crowd was really young.

Oran Mor - Very cool bar, pretty large in size but chill vibes. Tons of girls there and you can approach tables and they will be keen to talk to you if you have a foreign accent.

Slouch - Chill bar with live music and solid food. Great place to start the night off and make some friends.

[tattiemasher]

I won't add too much to the club suggestions here as it's not really my thing, although the last couple of times I've taken a lassie to Nice N Sleazy after a few beers has always worked out well. They do a range of cheap cocktails and decent beers, (White Russian for £3) you can buy a gimmick snack like a Kinder Egg to change it up and keep the banter flowing, and although its loud the atmosphere and ambience, upstairs or downstairs, works really well for pushing kino.

Another bonus for Glasgow is how small the city is and how close all the bars are to each other. If you're taking someone out as opposed to going for night game, you can very easily bar-hop after each drink and end up with an SNL. If you're on Sauchiehall Street you're talking seconds between venues.

I'd second the comment about being a bit bolder here in Glasgow as well, not just physically but in terms of your conversation. Many of the girls here, even some of the foreign ones, have dreams of worldwide travel or have only done a few tourist runs in common countries. If you can tell stories about the less common places you've been and give off plenty of experience you're a step ahead.

[Ethan Amarante]

(06-24-2014 10:53 AM)tattiemasher Wrote:  

I won't add too much to the club suggestions here as it's not really my thing, although the last couple of times I've taken a lassie to Nice N Sleazy after a few beers has always worked out well. They do a range of cheap cocktails and decent beers, (White Russian for £3) you can buy a gimmick snack like a Kinder Egg to change it up and keep the banter flowing, and although its loud the atmosphere and ambience, upstairs or downstairs, works really well for pushing kino.

Another bonus for Glasgow is how small the city is and how close all the bars are to each other. 1. If you're taking someone out as opposed to going for night game, you can very easily bar-hop after each drink and end up with an SNL. If you're on Sauchiehall Street you're talking seconds between venues.

2. I'd second the comment about being a bit bolder here in Glasgow as well, not just physically but in terms of your conversation. 3. Many of the girls here, even some of the foreign ones, have dreams of worldwide travel or have only done a few tourist runs in common countries. If you can tell stories about the less common places you've been and give off plenty of experience you're a step ahead.

1. I think this is a very important selling point of Glasgow, thanks for pointing it out. Moving around Sauchiehall Street and Bath Street is incredibly easy and I would regularly visit over five bars / clubs in a night.

2. I'm glad you found this to be the case, too. I've been to a few cities in the UK I liked but in terms of sexually liberated women Glasgow tops the list.

3. Yeah. Weirdly, even being English seemed to give me a sort of exotic appeal and an easy way of talking about my experiences abroad, which seemed to go down incredibly well with the women I met. I imagine that anyone from further away would be able to use this to even greater effect.

You sound like you might be a local. You're a lucky guy if you were brought up here.

[tattiemasher]

(06-24-2014 05:53 PM)Ethan Amarante Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 10:53 AM)tattiemasher Wrote:  

I won't add too much to the club suggestions here as it's not really my thing, although the last couple of times I've taken a lassie to Nice N Sleazy after a few beers has always worked out well. They do a range of cheap cocktails and decent beers, (White Russian for £3) you can buy a gimmick snack like a Kinder Egg to change it up and keep the banter flowing, and although its loud the atmosphere and ambience, upstairs or downstairs, works really well for pushing kino.

Another bonus for Glasgow is how small the city is and how close all the bars are to each other. 1. If you're taking someone out as opposed to going for night game, you can very easily bar-hop after each drink and end up with an SNL. If you're on Sauchiehall Street you're talking seconds between venues.

2. I'd second the comment about being a bit bolder here in Glasgow as well, not just physically but in terms of your conversation. 3. Many of the girls here, even some of the foreign ones, have dreams of worldwide travel or have only done a few tourist runs in common countries. If you can tell stories about the less common places you've been and give off plenty of experience you're a step ahead.

1. I think this is a very important selling point of Glasgow, thanks for pointing it out. Moving around Sauchiehall Street and Bath Street is incredibly easy and I would regularly visit over five bars / clubs in a night.

2. I'm glad you found this to be the case, too. I've been to a few cities in the UK I liked but in terms of sexually liberated women Glasgow tops the list.

3. Yeah. Weirdly, even being English seemed to give me a sort of exotic appeal and an easy way of talking about my experiences abroad, which seemed to go down incredibly well with the women I met. I imagine that anyone from further away would be able to use this to even greater effect.

You sound like you might be a local. You're a lucky guy if you were brought up here.

You're partly right on me being a local, I'm originally from one of the towns on the outskirts of Glasgow, though I was brought up in other countries as well. Currently on some well-earned travel.

The foreigner aspect definitely has some mileage here, though I guess like everywhere else some nationalities will have it better than others. I've rarely seen any Eastern European guys with women, on the other hand I'm not surprised any more to see Middle Eastern/SEA guys with local girls. The Mediterraneans used to do well but I'm not sure if the increase in ERASMUS students from there has changed that. South Americans were doing well the last few times I was at events, and there's been a few restaurants opening up themed on Brazil.

And finally, as well as not asking if Scotland is part of England, if the girl is a football fan, steer clear of anything controversial on that topic as well, football can be quite tribal and passionate in the city.

[TejasRojo]

I'm going to be in Glasgow for about a week at the end of August (thursday thru wednesday), any tips on hotels to increase my logistics that aren't incredible expensive or nasty?

[Fighting888]

I heard there's a lot of violent crime and chavs living in Glasgow. The guys love to get drunk, brawl, and knife each other. Even worse than Manchester.

Is there any truth to that?

Read this:

Quote:


SCOTLAND is the most violent country in the developed world, according to a United Nations report.

Excluding murder, Scots are almost three times more likely to be victims of assault than Americans. England and Wales have proportionately the second highest number of assaults.

Many experts believe Britain’s heavy-drinking culture is to blame for the frequency with which fights break out.

The study, based on phone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots are attacked every week — almost 10 times police figures. The crimes covered by the study include assaults, but exclude street muggings, sexual violence and murder.

Violent crime has doubled in Scotland over the past 20 years to a level comparable with crime-ridden cities such as Rio de Janeiro. [Although the murder rate in gun-controlled Scotland is not terribly high.]

The attacks have been fuelled by a “booze and blades” culture in the west of Scotland, with the worst offenders being males aged between 15 and 25...

Senior police have little doubt that alcohol-related thuggery is the main factor in violence on British streets.

Chris Allison, lead officer on licensing at the Association of Chief Police Officers and a commander in the Metropolitan police, has said that drunkenness is “all we are ever dealing with.”

According to the UN study, 3% of Scots had been victims of assault. The second highest figure was recorded in England and Wales at 2.8%, compared with 2% in America and 0.1% in Japan.

“Our survey is more accurate than the official figures because there is a huge proportion of crimes that go unreported,” said Jan Van Dijk, head of analysis at the UN Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute.

“We have seen a trend in Scotland and the proportion has almost doubled since 1989 and risen from 1.9% in 1996. This is very significant and is a clear upward trend.”

[Ethan Amarante]

(07-26-2014 06:36 PM)TejasRojo Wrote:  

I'm going to be in Glasgow for about a week at the end of August (thursday thru wednesday), any tips on hotels to increase my logistics that aren't incredible expensive or nasty?

Unfortunately I can't give any recommendation beyond what you'd read online. What I can suggest, however, is that you stay as close to Sauchiehall Street as possible. You'll probably be in this area most nights you go out and I've come very close to losing a lay because I've had to wait for a taxi back to my district - being able to walk her back to yours would be a significant logistical advantage.

(07-26-2014 08:03 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

I heard there's a lot of violent crime and chavs living in Glasgow. The guys love to get drunk, brawl, and knife each other. Even worse than Manchester.

Is there any truth to that?

Read this:

There's a lot of truth to that - UK crime statistics are comparatively reliable. There's a gigantic caveat here, though - Glasgow is not a homogeneous city in terms of its sociodemographics, in fact I've seen research showing it to be one of the most varied cities in the UK in this regard.

What I mean by this is that there are some areas are very affluent (particularly in the West) and others quite poverty-stricken for a rich country (particularly the East and further South). I imagine this is reflected in the crime stats.

The implication here is that, if you avoid the rougher areas, you needn't worry about crime. Stay in the West End and city centre and you should find no more trouble than any fairly safe city in the Western hemisphere.

[Teedub]

(07-26-2014 08:03 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

I heard there's a lot of violent crime and chavs living in Glasgow. The guys love to get drunk, brawl, and knife each other. Even worse than Manchester.

Haha. Manchester is completely safe as long as you're not an idiot. Even places that were famous for black gang violence, such as Moss Side, are a hell of a lot safer than they were 2 years ago.

Ethan, great data sheet!

[tattiemasher]

I'd second the suggestions above. Airbnb is a terrible deal in the city for getting a place to yourself, and there are plenty of reputable hotels near Sauchiehall Street. Worth checking what their guest policy is, but if they charge the same rate for two people as one, just book it as a double and you should be alright. The further west you go on Sauchiehall Street the busier it gets, so worth bearing in mind.

The crime shouldn't be an issue in the west end and city centre, just avoid situations with really drunk guys and aggressive looking groups and you'll be alright. Half the trouble I see is arguments within groups.

[JonnyWalker]

Looks like Campus and Buddah might have gone bankrupt

http://glasgow.stv.tv/59051/

[JonnyWalker]

Scub that looks like Campus rose from the ashes

http://www.barcampus.co.uk/

Not sure about Buddah - locals may know better - visiting in Aug - will updated with views/experience

[TejasRojo]

I'm 31, is that a problem to be this old in this city? I fly in on a thursday, and out on wednesday, so hope to get my flag pretty easily and see a few sights as well. I hear neds tend to be married/with kids by about 22-23.

It'll be at the end of August that I'll be there, if anyone wants to meet up, and if our games are different, we can always split.

[Ethan Amarante]

(07-27-2014 07:19 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

Ethan, great data sheet!

Cheers.

(08-04-2014 12:01 AM)TejasRojo Wrote:  

I'm 31, is that a problem to be this old in this city?

I wouldn't imagine so - a friend of my PUA wingman in Glasgow who's around 30 went on tours around the casinos and seemed to do well. There are a fair few in Glasgow but it might be worth checking out online reviews as their patrons are quite different. Corinthians, for example, is a great place if you're looking for a laugh but in my experience is tacky as hell downstairs, where you're probably most likely to pull.

It's also worth checking out Bath Street if you're not into full on clubs. You're likely to meet women who might be a little more "classy" (for want of a better word) if that's what you're into. I've not done many approaches there but I was fairly impressed by the standard in some of of the little bars.

Having said that, with the right game, I see no reason why age would stop you getting any of the lays I did.

I'm afraid I probably don't have anything more insightful to add than that because this 30-something bloke dropped off the radar a while back and I can't get in touch with him.

[Carlos100]

Some touristy info FWIW.