[Constitution45]

I don't particularly want to get tied down to one country, especially in the U.K (Where I am from). I have lived abroad for the last year, mostly trying to set up businesses, while subdizising my living costs with English teaching.

I am thinking of working for 6 months in Spain/London and 6 months in Serbia/Croatia/Russia. I speak elementary Russian and I have the contacts to help me get set up there. Has anyone done this themselves ? any advice or stories/experiences will be great.

I have to complete university for 8 more months, and then I can leave and do what I want. It is not a conventional route, but it ties in well with my ambitions and after being on the road for a while. I can't see myself living in the West, especially after being aware of all these topics dragged up by the manosphere. It's not healthy for your personal growth.

Peace

[anotherblond]

I've been a transient for a good portion of my life, and I will give you the worst answer in the world.

It works for some people and doesn't for others. How has the last year really been? Are you prepared to deal with a 2nd world country and a different language for 6 months of the year after the novelty has worn off? You seem to like it so.....go for it.


That is how my life has worked out, and I have never really wanted to travel or have made any real effort to travel. I've been very successful in doing it sofar though, and since i'm young, I have yet to meet somone say "i traveled too much in my 20's".

That being said, I move around more then 6 away and 6 home.

Get a storage locker, this makes it turnkey when you come back after 6 months.
A local contact is worth 100x any tourist you ever meet. Chances are, most people never move and they will remember you. The 2nd time in a place makes it even start to feel like home.........

I don't like moving around, but I do personally like what you are attempting to do. It is a goal in my life. I relate it to having a summer home, but in a different epic country.

The west. eh it's personal. I miss it, but at the same time I'm not willing to commit my life there.

Don't rule out Asia, as you can find some dirt cheep living.

I've always wanted to finish my SCUBA courses and teach diving in some tripical local.....meeting different groups of diving charter tourists and partying after.......I think i could handle that for 6 months of the year. It's a thought.

I have known a good amount of ausies and english that go to the west to do the snowboarding circuit for half the year. Work up at a ski hill *you often get preferencial hiring for basic jobs due to your accent making you exotic*, and chill party and snowboard the half a year away. It isn't great money, but you're young.

Good luck, and you will never regret trying it right?

[Constitution45]

Thanks this is the kind of advice I am looking for. For myself I have enjoyed the last year, I truly feel alive. Literally all my business ventures have ended up failing, but there have been plenty of stories from it. I decided that the six months off and on would be ideal, because that is a long enough time to establish some roots. Although I don't wish to get particularly anchored to a specific country.

The only thing I struggle with is the emotional side. In the last year I have come close to some connections, friends and women, who were truly great people. Unfortunately I have to be pragmatic and detach, which is not always an easy task.

As cliche as it sounds, the biggest positive, is seeing how other people live. Back in the U.K where I am from, if I stayed there, I would be used to this self depreciating cycle of going to shitty boozers, trying to pull atrocious women, while watching X factor ever saturday night. As a foreigner going to certain countries, you get to enter social circles that you wouldn't usually enter back at home. You are forced to, otherwise you will be incredibly lonely. One other aspect I noticed, is now I am pro family. Back in the U.K I saw little reason to start a family, just so I can become one of those dads on t.v that mocked and ridiculed. Living in Russia however, I see true, proper alpha males, in charge of their family, while pursuing their own ventures, it was inspiring.

Asia is a good place to start up, although I'm thinking of staying a bit closer to home. Eastern Europe, Russia are like El Dorados for me. I think I will go too far gone in East Asia and end up like Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now. My time in China, put me off doing business there, more because of the Guilao there, rather than the actual Chinese.

Just some questions for you.

Which places have you set up in and why ?

When did you decide this was the life for you ?

What is your exact line of work ?

[iknowexactly]

I'm pretty tired of the West except for finding entrepreneurial collaborators and recuperating in a risk-free environment. Because I'm non-famous and in my 50s, the best 1st world women seem largely out of reach.

One thing I believe strongly is that--within reason:

"You learn faster by failing than by waiting."

That doesn't mean you should try something grossly illegal that could get your a decade in prison. More just trying things out things as you've mentioned.

Because what will be different about your a year from now? Your talents won't be much different, your looks and money situation will be very similar in all likelihood--

--what might be different is what you learn.

and actually, there are no "risk-free" environments. The risk of death is always 100%.

We all disappear, completely and forever.

[Constitution45]

Not sure which countries you are talking about here, but I agree with you. The West is good for convenience and safety, although if you want to chase adventure and big capital, the wild east is the place for it. I remember reading this manosphere blog, "The Book of Pook", I am sure you know it here. He makes a chapter, explaining the importance of risk and comfort. Comfort eventually leading the man back to the womb and killing him in the end. Where as the risk is what keeps the man alive, builds a character.

God I need an adventure again

[anotherblond]

(05-25-2014 02:28 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

Thanks this is the kind of advice I am looking for. For myself I have enjoyed the last year, I truly feel alive. Literally all my business ventures have ended up failing, but there have been plenty of stories from it. I decided that the six months off and on would be ideal, because that is a long enough time to establish some roots. Although I don't wish to get particularly anchored to a specific country.

The only thing I struggle with is the emotional side. In the last year I have come close to some connections, friends and women, who were truly great people. Unfortunately I have to be pragmatic and detach, which is not always an easy task.

As cliche as it sounds, the biggest positive, is seeing how other people live. Back in the U.K where I am from, if I stayed there, I would be used to this self depreciating cycle of going to shitty boozers, trying to pull atrocious women, while watching X factor ever saturday night. As a foreigner going to certain countries, you get to enter social circles that you wouldn't usually enter back at home. You are forced to, otherwise you will be incredibly lonely. One other aspect I noticed, is now I am pro family. Back in the U.K I saw little reason to start a family, just so I can become one of those dads on t.v that mocked and ridiculed. Living in Russia however, I see true, proper alpha males, in charge of their family, while pursuing their own ventures, it was inspiring.

Asia is a good place to start up, although I'm thinking of staying a bit closer to home. Eastern Europe, Russia are like El Dorados for me. I think I will go too far gone in East Asia and end up like Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now. My time in China, put me off doing business there, more because of the Guilao there, rather than the actual Chinese.

Just some questions for you.

Which places have you set up in and why ?

When did you decide this was the life for you ?

What is your exact line of work ?

I will agree the transient lifestyle ( i was moving around 90% of the time) is very hard for connections with people, but I have slowly learned to be "in the moment" where i can connect much quicker with people now. This is why i like your 6/6 model. It's not weird for me to meet somone become best freinds and then even meet up later in a different spot. It's amazing how often i do see people that i've met in different countries. Facebook is amazing for this. I never liked it until i started to travel.

I tried part Thailand for a while. It's cheep and kinda fun. I love the water, so being on a beach in the middle of winter was why i went there. I don't like Asia though. just a personal thing about culture etc. I'll go back but I don't plan on staying.

Mexico a couple times.

France.....ya no not my choice. didn't like it. I had fun but....eh

Couple places in usa east coast.

I plan on doing Eastern europe/ S. America next travel abroad stint. This is going to be finding a country that is cheep and fun with good weather. So it will depend on my exact departure date from the states. Winter....go south summer....go eastern europe.


Eh I never decided to do this. Like i say. I'm like you in the way that I see people back home and I know that isn't the life for me by any means. I'd do anything instead of that. I'll do this until I can make enough money back home to live an upper crust lifestyle. This way, I can live like a king at least half the year. Going out and not even worrying about the bill is a nice feeling. Feel like clubbing? taxi and bottle service doesn't even run you 50$.....good times

Depending on where you go there is certain lawlessness too that i find fun. Where a bit of bargaining can get out out of a bad situation. It feels more adventurous in the 3rd and even 2nd world countries.

my work. I've done a lot of different things. shitty answer I know. I had to travel for short periods of time to places occasionally staying somewhere for a few months at most. (i kinda keep in vague in case anyone I know reads this). I will reccomend SCUBA instructor because i've seen this work for a lot of people. same as ski lift operator/ bartender. english teaching like you did.


I don't see this as a long term lifestyle. After a while you just become one of those drifters that you meet in hostels that have a million cool little stories, but eh that isn't' the life i want.

I do this to keep myself motivated. If I know i have to move in x number of days....it keeps me pushing hard. It makes more memories. I can list 10 memories from some years when I didn't move at all.... Keep the ceneory changing to keep life interesting

I would say move far away from home as well. That's just me. Unless you are staying close to home to keep yourself surrounded by Smart, like minded, ultra susseccful people, you are surrounding yourself with people that will not understand, accept or support your lifestyle.
THIS IS HUGE
Be honest with yourself on what you want out of life. There is no use in bullshiting yourself. Need to stay close to home because you're scared you might fail? okay are you okay with that? as long as your honest its a good step.
If you stay at home for 6 months with your freinds that just dink and piss their lives away. you will fall into that every time you go back home.

You are who you surround yourself with. coke heads...you're a coke head, bankers....your good with money, travelers.....you'll be a traveler. Choose what you want then surround yourself with those people. Don't let them choose you......