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Back from 4 weeks in Cuba! Great trip over-all. One small negative, although a pretty good story, me and another Canadian bud managed to get roofied and robbed in Havana. Could have been much worse and I'm taking it as a good learning experience and a warning to tighten up my shit. My Favorite spot was the city of trinidad. The disco cave there was awesome!

The women, once again, were unreal.
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I have been told that tourist cant really talk to local women, did you find that to be a problem during your stay? I mean talking to women in public.
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SpanishDreams,

If you haven't already, break down a full data sheet on Cuba.

I am sure I am not the only one who is interested.
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data sheet? full trip report? por favor
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#5

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I don't think I'm hitting Cuba anytime soon, but a very nice detailed data sheet would be sweet.
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i'm hitting up havana later this year

a breakdown on nightlife spots, what to do etc would be much appreciated - and also to know where you got drugged and robbed of course

thanks bro

Detective Rust Cohle: "All the dick swagger you roll, you can't spot crazy pussy?"
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I've noticed on Facebook that there's quite a number of (fine) Cuban ladiez who live in Italy. This leads me to believe that Italian dudes are going to Cuba -- scooping up the local hotties -- and importing them to Italy.
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Several years ago I was in Cuba and my friend was talking to a local girl on the street. She was arrested and assumed to be a prostitute. The fact that she was a medical student meant nothing.

For the record, I didn't see any evidence that she was a prostitute.
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Several years ago I was in Cuba and my friend was talking to a local girl on the street. She was arrested and assumed to be a prostitute. The fact that she was a medical student meant nothing.

For the record, I didn't see any evidence that she was a prostitute.
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Yeah Lief i have heard so many stories of local cuban chicks getting arrested for talking to tourists, i wonder if still like that till today.
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This is sad but true. Women do get harassed by their secret police. Yet, men can talk to women tourists no problem..... see the double standard... (well speaking from my experience)....

In Cuba, the proper way to talk to a girl on the street and if you are seeing her as a GF perhaps, is to register at the police station and you will have no problems. This is to curb prostitution. So, if she is caught with another guy (tourist) in the meantime after you leave, she will be charged with prostitution. This is what I've been told.

I know its a hasstle to register, but they make $25-$30/month and prostitution bucks seem tempting. So,,,, they are trying to curb this...

However, you can talk to locals no problem,,, its just that they may have a problem (sadly of course)....
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to the OP - dude are you gonna break down any specifics of your trip??

otherwise what was the purpose of your post

Detective Rust Cohle: "All the dick swagger you roll, you can't spot crazy pussy?"
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#13

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OP - Do you hold an American passport? If so, how did you bypass the travel restrictions? If you are Canadian, then it is not an issue.

-Mixx
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Hes from B.C. so he wouldn't have to worry about passport restrictions.
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I've also never heard of anyone getting roofied in Cuba. That to me seems a bit unlikely considering the fact that drug use of even the most accessible drugs is incredibly minimal.
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Same question as Mixx. If you are an American, is it as easy as simply flying from another country, or do you have to make special arrangements? Does customs mess with you on your way back in? Do Obama's new rules only apply to Cubans with families and schools and other non-profits? Off the top of my head, everyone I know who went to Cuba wasn't American, so I'm wondering if it's complicated.
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this dude creates a thread about a trip and didnt give any detail.... wtf lol
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Ajiaco
Yes you just fly through a different country. Several years back I flew through Cancun. I know people who have flown through Toronto or Montreal, as well as many places in the Caribbean.

I have heard that to be 100% safe, you should actually stay a night or more in your transit city. A few years back there were (unverified) reports that Canadian officials were tipping off the U.S. about US passengers connecting to Havana. Stopping there for at least a night supposedly avoids this.

Also, when you get to Havana, just ask them not to stamp your passport. They will just smile as they are accustomed to that request.

I'm very surprised at the OP's story re roofies. Cuba is one of the safest places I've travelled.
The authorities do not mess around, especially with crimes against tourists as they need the hard currency. There's no due process -- you screw with a tourist and your ass is tossed in jail for a long time.
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I am an American who just got back from a 4 night stay in Havana last May. In my experience, a buddy and I flew from LAX to Cancun, stayed in downtown Cancun (not the hotel zone you see in all the pictures with the 5-star resorts) and bought the next flight out of Cancun to Havana. We bought the tickets at a Mexican travel agency (they are everywhere in Cancun) the flight leaving 3 days later. After reading online before the trip that American money has a 20% tax when being exchanged in Cuba, my friend and I exchanged ALL our cash to Canadian money before leaving mexico. Cash is the only source of life for the [illegal] American in Cuba, seeing how it absolutely is illegal to go to Cuba (yes, even going and not spending any money is illegal) there are no ATMs, no credit cards, nothing American. Literally nothing. So the cash you take is what you have.

The flip side to the embargo is just that- it is only one sided. Cubans do not ban or make it illegal for Americans to go, they know you are not supposed to be there and upon seeing an American passport, they stamp a seperate paper they give to you to keep with your passport that you give back when you leave. We did have what appeared to be a harder time during customs; immediatley after showing our passports they seperated my friend and I, sending me to continue on to baggage claim, but keeping my friend back and sending him to another room for what was the eternity of 25 minutes. After me thinking the worse, his dumb ass comes out all smiles and said they made him buy a $7 insurace policy, incase he gets sick. Typical tourist snare; the Cuban gov just trying to make a few bucks.

In the airport in Cancun before departing for Havana we met an Isreli from NYC sneaking in as well. He had the most trouble out of any of us in customs, and renting hotels, but I gather after hitting Havana with two of the most keen travelers I have ever met, Isreli's are rather used to difficulty when traveling abroad. We stayed at what the Cubans call a Casa Particular, which is basically a bed a breakfast, renting a room from a Cuban family and eating with them. That is the only way to go in my opinion.

Beer in Cuba is no more than a dollar a bottle ($3max if your at some swanky tourist trap paying for the 'brand name' of the club). They have one brand, ironically called Crystal, but I thouroughly enjoyed it, very smooth. An entire bottle of rum is about 3 dollars. Very good rum, very smooth, most Cubans drink it stright and warm.

Cubans are utterly poor, making the equivalent of 10 American dollars a month. Because of this, it is completely normal to be having a conversation with any Cuban (usually they will start them. "Eye! Where you from?!") when they abruptly interupt you and ask for money. I was put off by this at first, thinking the whole conversation to be disingenuos. But realizing after lunch one afternoon on the Malicon (the bay in Havana) that I just spent more on one meal than the Cuban makes in 2 months, of course they ask for money, they dont have it and they see us 'throwing' it away.

And the Cuban women? If you like unbelieveably sexy curves complimented by an enviornment that is so humid it does not make sense to cover any unnecessary flesh, plus loud sensual music begging for some ass shaking...you might like Cuba. There is so much more to write about the amazing experience Havana can be, I could write all day, which is why I bet the original poster didnt recap, (yet, I hope) probably figuring out where to start. Overall, Havanna is a MUST GO. It changed my perception of the world around me and not a a day and a half goes by where I dont think about that trip or am reminded of it in some way. Cuban people are awsesome (but very savvy when it comes to seperating you from your money) Women are beautiful, and please dont forget there is a 25 dollar tax per person that has to be paid in cash, at the airport, and only at the airport, before leaving Cuba. We did not realize this and while it eventually (somehow, thank God!) worked out for us, dont put yourself in the situation of being in a country illegally and not having the cash to leave.
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Sylo was it ok to talk to women in the streets? I have been told that if cuban women are caught talking to foreigners they get in trouble, is that true? And how did you find the casa particular? And where is the best area to stay in terms of approaching women in the streets? Thanks.
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Anyone interesting in visiting Cuba I suggest checking this forum. It is in Russian, so use Google Translate, A lot of Russians go to Cuba, so there is always up-to-date information. However from reading their travel reports it is hard to me to understand what's up there. My impression so far is that it is similar to Cambodia, but with Hispanics instead of Asians and without Angkor Wat. Definitely not a hookup place unless you're into P4P. If this is the case, it doesn't worth trouble imho.
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Shit, sorry guys, I've been MIA here for the last month or so! I can give you guys a breakdown if you like. Havana is much more lax with the girls than other places. The country in general is kind of a dump, but then I'm there for drinking and bangin. The easiest way to hook up is with a male cuban guide. I know one who'll bring girls to your room all day long if you like. Also, most places you can mix with the girls in the nightclub or bar settings, as long as you have a cuban guy around.

MY favorite place was the city of trinidad. Nice smaller city with a relaxing atmosphere. Had a good room there, but like many of the casas, you can bring girls in but they must register with their ID. They are not into that. No problem, I found a short time room, out of the way for a good price.

FYI - just because a girl is a medical student, doesn't mean she ain't workin. The cops are pretty well onto who's doing what. Most of the females can be had. Famous words " I no prostitute, but...." ;-)

The drugging incident : Rule one. If your drink tastes funny, trust your judgement, it probably is.
I had the better part of 2 bottles of rum in me for the day, and my judgement wasn't the best. I was in a slum, and these dudes had me marked. I just didn't have the drug angle on my mind. could have been much worse.

Anyone want more specifics, let me know!
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Yes those are great questions. Basically, you learn in school that Cuba is socialist, but having been there to see firsthand the role gov plays in the daily, [hourly, rather] everyday lives of the Cuban citizens, it is full fledged communism. There are big cameras on the street corners (they resemble traffic signal cameras like they have in America, but a bit dif) and propaganda everywhere. The girls aren’t really allowed to talk to you. Tourists are not supposed to use the civilian currency (in Cuba there are two currencies, the CUP for Cubans, and the CUC for tourists) Tourists can only buy Cuban cigars from "certified retail stores" [the gov] you can only rent hotel rooms and casa paticulares certified by the gov...We broke all these rules within 5 hours of landing.

In Cuba, you quickly realize there is a black market for everything. And I mean everything. Peanut butter etc...but more importantly you find the following on the black market:

*CUP. Once you get your hands on the Cuban peso, doors open like never before. The CUP is 24=1 CUC. The tourist money is worth 24 times more, and the Cubans know this, so they want their hands on your money. I paid 15 CUC (which if you take Canadian money in, it is roughly 1 Canadian dollar to 1 tourist peso, and strangely, at the time the USD was roughly 1=1 Canadian dollar) for a Lobster dinner with a big filet of halibut and a dozen shrimp, bread, juice, a beer, and fries. I thought that was the cheap. Once we had their money, the CUP, we ate at restaurants you find that are houses with holes cut on the side and they sell your meal out of it like a mini hot dog stand, we were paying 33 cents for a sandwich comparable to a foot long at Subway, and included was fresh juice and rice. Not a lobster dinner, but not even a dent in your budget.

*Cuban Cigars. I just about lost my mind when we went to the cigar shop for the first time. Now, I am not a cigar man, but for a standard box of 50 Cubans, the 'certified' stores wanted over $300! Disappointed about not being able to have a Cuban in Cuba, our friend Orlando, who was our casa owners neighbor, the funniest man you will ever meet, and who spent almost every waking hour with us despite his knowledge of maybe 50 words of English, said that he could get us the same box for $50. For someone who does not smoke many cigars, I thought the cigars were fantastic.

*Girls. What a boring topic. The girls in Cuba are so hot. Girls on the streets are not supposed to talk to tourist. Plain and simple. Not quite knowing this the first couple hours, my buddy and I could not believe how our 'holas' or 'hi's' got 0 response. Absolutely nothing, like every hot girl in Cuba was oblivious to us. Once we found out they can’t really talk to us, we approached differently, way more aware of where we were. If we were in a neighborhood, you wait to talk to a group of girls while no one is around. They already know the strategy; several times we would be talking to a group of girls, a car would turn around the block, the girls would all walk away, the car leaves, the girls come back 30 seconds later to continue the conversation...a man walks on the opposite side of the street, the girls disburse, only to come back a short while later.

*Hotel/apartment room (separate from actual room). So you met your hot chicks in the day and have plans to drink with them later. But you cannot take Cuban girls back to a hotel room or a Casa Particular. Again, our friend Orlando (I strongly recommend meeting a Cuban who can show you around, we met Orlando by offering him 6 bucks to take us around Havana our first full day. Every time we stopped to get a beer, we bought him one too, we bought him lunch, and half way through the day he told us to keep our $6, we had already showed him a great time and now that we were friends, he didn’t want us to pay him. Cubans are great people, and you will need one anyway to gain access and to qualify yourselves when dealing with other Cubans on the black market) knew a lady who would rent us her entire apartment for $20. She left to stay with her boyfriend and gave us the whole thing, which was on the 8th floor and had a view with a balcony of the Malicon.

Once you’re situated and it is just you and your buddies, go buy beer, some rum, and cigarettes. I don’t smoke them, who cares if you don’t either, EVERY Cuban smokes so have some sitting out for the girls. Buy some candy. Remember these girls are very poor; candy is still a treat to them. Drink beer after beer and sip on some Caribbean rum. Laugh with the girls. Relax and have a great time, you’re in Cuba! After you showed them the best night of their lives (literally) ,they are going to want to sleep with you.

Now, every Cuban is as poor as they are cunning. She will undoubtedly bring up you giving her money for sex. If you’re ok with that, don’t spend more than 40 CUC, even if she is an 11/10. And make sure it is for the entire night. But if your that lazy, you will be had by many of the people in Cuba and not even realize it; and aren’t smart enough to be traveling. Remember, she WANTS to sleep with you. She has just been on the best date of her life. Casually tell her you don’t pay for sex, but you will make sure her family is taken care of. You have to be confident but you have to mean it.

Next, she will show you why it was worth going to this country illegally. Then go back to the living room and trade girls with your buddies until you have officially met every girl. After, invite the girls on the balcony (which could collapse at any second splattering your brains all over the street) to enjoy the cigars they are famous for, a rarity for the Cuban civilian.

Personally, I gave every girl something. I gave my favorite one a 20 CUC when she left and told her to take care of her family. What was 20 dollars to me was literally a small fortune to her. You will have a hard time not sending her home with a 100 after you see the way Cubans get down. One I gave pantine Pro-V and some lotion. Small stuff to you is HUGE to a country that has nothing. You will understand what I mean once you go.

I highly recommend buying Lonely Planet’s guide to Cuba. I am not sure if they have one just on Havana, but the Cuba one will help you set your trip up. That is where we got the idea to stay at the Casa Particular. They are only $25-$30 a night for the top of the line ones, make sure yours has an AC in your room, and ours had an electric water heater (yikes!) in the shower. I mean it when I say make sure you have an AC. The humidity was unbelievable.

This is important: know where you are staying when you land, customs is going to ask. We knew how we wanted to stay, but we did not have a specific casa (we could not make any reservations, no American credit cards or debit cards work) or name picked out. We told customs we were staying at hotel Verano. I don’t know if that will still exist when you go, though I’m sure you’ll be fine by using it. We did not take a cab from the airport to the city of Havana. We paid some civilian to take us, which we did not know was illegal (black market taxi, much cheaper) at the time. We told him we wanted a Casa, so he took us to a really nice one he knew about that an old lady rented, on the 12th floor of an apt building, panoramic views of the bay and Havana. She was full so he took us to another, where we ended up staying. Worked out great; our family was awesome and we got to meet gordo Orlando. So I really couldn’t tell you how to get a casa particular, other than telling you not to worry, you can figure it out when you land.

And to warn you, the Spanish there is COMPLETELY different. I am in southern CA and can get by here and in Mexico with the Spanish I know, but what a shock the language was there. I was very fortunate running into the guy from NYC who spoke great Spanish and negotiated with the best of Cubans.
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Paragraphs please.
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Quote: (02-23-2011 01:51 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Paragraphs please.

I didnt know you wanted it presentable too.
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