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#26

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Sylo, thanks for the great report. So far it confirms my opinion about being Cambodia Laos/Myamar with Hispanics instead of Asians and having very little/no value for me.

BTW, if you fly to Europe, you can get Cuban rum/cigars there. Schiphol airport has a good selection. Just make sure you buy them on your way IN Europe, not out. In some countries they also provide friendly repack service, where they repackage/relabel your cigars into a cheaper local brand box.
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#27

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Great report Sylo!

How was it coming back into Mexico from Cuba then onwards to the USA? Did the Mexican authorities stamp your passport again as you continued onto the states? That would definitely raise a red flag with two entry stamps into the same country at the same time.

May I ask your race as well? I think its important to know for Cuba even though I believe Cuba has a much more diverse population racially than DR. I just wonder how someone who obvious looks like a gringo (white) would do with approaching ladies on the street versus someone who looks like a Cuban (darker and tanned skinned) and would the ladies be a bit more receptive to someone who looks like an actual Cuban on the street?

I know in the DR I can blend in quite well as a local because of my looks so I'm assuming Cuba would be the same minus the obvious style of dress.
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#28

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Yeah international swagger good question, i wanted to ask the same thing too if darker skin guys talking to local women will have problems, because i look a lot like a cuban, im guessing i wont have much trouble although the dressing sense will make me look like a mulatto gringo.

But if thats the case i can just take some cheap clothes there so i can blend in and talk to the ladies.

By the way, how was the internet there? I know it was slow but was it slow as taking 5 minutes to open an email? Damn i really willl need the internet for my business.
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#29

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cheers for the reports Spanishdreams and Sylo

Can you pls comment on what the best places/venues are to meet these hotties during the day and at night in Havana (i.e. names of clubs, bars, beach, street, square etc)

thanks!

Detective Rust Cohle: "All the dick swagger you roll, you can't spot crazy pussy?"
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#30

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Swagger, thanks for reminding me of the passport situation. To try to make a long story short, the last night we had in Havana, my buddy and I decided to square up with all our bills before going out. Basically we just paid for our room and the meals they fed us. After all was said and done, we had 30 CUC between the both of us. We obviously decided to live like kings and blow everything that night, seeing how 30 bucks in Cuba is comparable to having an open bar/VIP status on a Fri night anywhere in Hollywood or Sunset, and upon landing back in Cancun, we would have what would feel like unlimited access to money/ATMs/ Credit cards.

We were ready for our final night to party, but just as we were leaving the door, an obscure reminder from our owner stopped us dead in our tracks. “Don’t forget about the $25 tax to leave the airport. “ We told him this meant nothing to us seeing how we paid it in Mexico.
Well, no we didn’t. He informed us that you can only pay for it when you are leaving the country, at the airport. This did not bring us down too much, seeing how 5 CUC in Cuba is still going to be an awesome night. He continued with devastating news, telling us it was actually 25 CUC PER PERSON to leave. This meant we were not only broke, but in the hole by 20 CUC.

We freaked out for a good 20 minutes, then realized it was not helping and that we were in a country we might never be in again. We hid every cent we had in our room and went out, trying to have a great night anyway, and with some luck maybe we would run into some Canadians or some tourists who could lend us 20 dollars.

Later that night, by the grace of God, we ran into some people we had met earlier on the trip. They invited us back to their place to drink, and later they were having some girls come over. They got us wasted, and gave us 20 CUC to leave the country. On paper it sounds too easy and abstract. Try spending a couple hours in a country you are not supposed to visit, while not having access to money, and not having the tax to leave. Made me appreciate my country more, and by making such a stupid mistake, it made me a better traveler.

Everything I read online before leaving the US mentioned putting an (American) $20 in your passport when you land in Mexico, and telling the customs official ‘No estampia porfavor.’ Well we were flat broke and hadn’t eaten or drank (not including beer) in about 24 hours (Tourists only drink bottled water in Cuba, much like Mexico, and if you have no money…no bottled water!) so I tried my luck with just telling her I did not want a stamp. She dug around my passport, obviously looking for a bribe, and when I told her I don’t have any money for her, she loudly stamped my passport with a smile.

After a great night in Cancun, we got rid of everything we had linking us to Cuba. We were afraid that US customs would question the 2nd stamp, ask us why we disappeared for a few days, and put us under a microscope. We even threw away our Lonely Planet guide to Cuba. After a grueling hour wait (in legal travel, this is no wait at all) in Huston, my friend and I reached the front of the line. We had a deal that if either one of us got through, f*ckin run to the connection to LAX and don’t look back. Every man for himself. My buddy gets called up to the left line (there were two officials; he got the nice old lady. I was still 4 or 5 people behind, heading straight to the middle aged Asian samurai official’s line, who, with only a brief second of eye contact, knew all the illegal things I have ever done in my life) and within a minute he is through. This made me even more nervous, thinking that there was no way BOTH of us would dupe a post 9/11 American airport. The intimidating customs official made some small talk, told me I looked tired from partying in Cancun, scanned my passport, and after an excruciating minute of silence, smiled and told me to have a nice flight. Calmly (I think) I caught up to my friend, who was half way down the hallway. It took all we had not to laugh and run and giggle like little children, at least until we got safely in the restroom and out of sight of any customs official. We made it!

We had 2 hours to kill and access to money; huge hamburgers and celebratory beers (AND WATER!!!!!!!) until our flight almost left without us back to LA. *Looking back, who goes to Cancun to leave? I don’t think catching people going to Cuba is a huge priority at the moment (think safety) but just don’t make it obvious. And don’t say you went. So having the 2nd stamp might not be a big deal, but I suggest avoiding it.

As for race and ease of game, I am a loud, 6’2, blonde hair, blue eyes gringo who stands out even in the States. Your game is basically the fact that you are already there. Meaning, you might be living paycheck to paycheck in your home town, but you had the money to get in a plane and see Cuba. Since almost every Havana resident has not even left Havana, you are super duper rich. Looks don’t go far at all; although I am sure white is a bit of a novelty. The hard part is keeping them in check. They will hassle and hassle for money for sex. Fight fire with fire. Most are not fantastic at English. Most don’t know it actually. But with one who did speak broken English, every time she brought it up I told her she did not have to pay me, I don’t even know if I am attracted to her enough to have sex. Make them laugh and act like sex is not something you would do with a Cuban, but rather your blonde girlfriend at home who is in the magazines in her underwear. If nothing works this is probably the best line to use: ‘You heard Cuban’s weren’t good in bed anyway. ‘ (nothing is further from the truth, sex is almost like a sport over there, and she probably knows the Cuban rep for how good they are in bed, but she doesn’t know you know that) Moral of the story, looks don’t matter but if you know Spanish, your way ahead of the game.

Any girl you meet at a bar or club that you have to pay a cover for is working. I cannot remember the exact names of the 2 or 3 bigger discos there, and I do suggest checking them out, but only to dance and drink. Not for chicks. If you want to skip all game and are purely interested in pounding, then yes, go lazy ass. As a side note, the last night we were there, we found a bar deep in Havana that had signs posted all over the front in Spanish that read: No tourists. Cuban nationals only. Tourists not allowed. It felt like I was in Alabama at a ‘white’ drinking fountain. Obviously, we went in this bar (the Cubans working there want gringos in there, we spend money and tip) and the 4 of us left with 6 girls. So bars like that, the ones you can tell are authentic (not catering to you, the tourist) are great to meet chicks.

During the day, always be aware of who is watching, because most chicks will not talk to you when unknown people are around, or police. Now if it is a plaza, open air, very public, you can get away with casually and quickly talking to them, and they are usually responsive. Approach with an attitude like you are asking directions or something trivial. Remember this is mostly because they are being watched, and you are actually gamming the narcs, not the chicks. Occasionally we would even get whistles from chicks, but, your entire mind set in Cuba is ‘every girl is working until proven off’.

Approaching groups of 2 or more is best. Honestly most WANT to talk to you; somehow, even though a lot of Canadians and Europeans go to Cuba, they know you are different. It is very weird; I am not sure how they do this. But they want to know everything about you; they are information starved, especially when it comes to the US, and who knows what garbage they teach them about America in School. When approaching a group in a neighborhood, make sure no one is around, say hola, (butcher your Spanish, and they will be intrigued and want to know where you’re from. I was a natural at this) and let them bombard you with questions; they will also ask you for money. Ask them for some. But to ENSURE success, make friends with a Cuban citizen. This will increase your odds of doing anything 10 fold, especially getting girls back to a ‘safe house’. I am not sure my trip would have been half as amazing without him. Do not worry, Cubans are very hospitable, you will meet people as soon as you land and get situated. Make sure he doesn’t take you though; you have to prove yourselves before they respect you. That usually means not giving them an inch, anywhere.

I cannot comment on the internet, we planned our whole trip under the suspicion we would not have it. We, maybe a little too overcautiously, even shut our cell phones off before we left Cancun, and did not turn them back on until landing there again, for fear of some sort of GPS giving us away or somehow receiving a call. I have heard the Internet there is very slow, and I know for a fact that it is heavily censored. I heard you cannot even access porn.
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#31

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Good report. Only thing I would disagree with is that 30 dollars will not allow you to party like a king. That all depends where you are going out. If your going to college bars and the likes then yes that should get you a 26 or two of havana club 7 anos rum. If your going out to the high end bars then 30 dollars will get you a few drinks. In some places 30 dollars won't even be enough for cover. The other thing your missing is that their are rich Cubans. In fact there are plenty especially in Havana. They are rich through a mixture of entrepreneurship, remittances etc. Obviously with only the rarest exception they aren't western world rich. For example you'd never come across a Cuban banking 500k a year. These people will want nothing to do with a tourist though. You were spot on about looks as well. Looks fall far behind financial status and personality in Cuba. Remember Havana is going to attract those with money as it's where the money is in general. There are jobs with foreign corporations in joint ventures their that pay well amongst others. Havana will also attract many people playing one week millionaire. Throwing around 20, 50 or even 100 dollars isn't going to impress anyone. There are also other types of Beer than Cristal! Cristal is 4.6%. They have another type of beer called Bucanero (5.4%). In many places you can get imported beer such as Heineken or Corona. If you fancy you can find decent scotch such as black label. I don't that using Cuban pesos is illegal. Your exchange rate is also off. Your going to get hammered by the banks. The Cuban dollar is essentially pegged to the US dollar and techniquely you pay an 8% surcharge on top of that. Good luck finding that kind of rate though. I think you'd be pretty lucky and optimistic if you received more than 90 cents Cuban for the Canadian dollar. Good report!
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#32

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Great fucking report! Im going to Cuba
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#33

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Quote: (02-23-2011 03:03 AM)sylo Wrote:  

Quote: (02-23-2011 01:51 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Paragraphs please.

I didnt know you wanted it presentable too.
Hahaha [Image: banana.gif]
The report was cool,but I'd want to know in the end of the day,did you guys get laid in Havana or settled with big time [Image: tard.gif][Image: tard.gif]
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#34

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I only got 3 things in Havana. Laid, drunk, and robbed! ;-)
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Quote: (03-09-2011 10:59 AM)SpanishDreams Wrote:  

I only got 3 things in Havana. Laid, drunk, and robbed! ;-)
I also got robbed by some English fags last summer in Ibiza.What can you expect from creatures with such a fag accent...
So drawing the line,in Havana guys who can make in a year time Ben Affleck look really average when compared,with solid game,great style,non-gringo,very exotic white ex boy,present man..do those people get laid or talk on and off with girls on the streets looking around not to get caught ...talking to girls
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#36

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I've been to Cuba several times but it was b4 Bush. Back then the money situation in Cuba was different. I always went to Santiago and had a great time. I remember one night in particular waking up and just staring at the chica next to me in bed and just shaking my head because I knew it could never be this good back in the states. My and my friends walked into a club and the girls thought we were Dominicans, but when I told them I was American they almost started cheering.

Santiago is not the big city like La Havana so the vibe is more low key. I never paid a chica out right for sex, but I did buy one a dress and I always brought gifts like inexpensive lingerie and stuff like that to give the chicas. The stuff cost me next to nothing at places like Marshals. I also purchased stuff like yankee hats from the wholesale stores in NYC for next to nothing and gave them away as presents because the Cubans are big baseball fans. I also stayed at Casas.

If you dance salsa, it can take you a long way in Cuban cause everyone loves to dance. I could never stay longer than 4 days because the conditions are not too favorable. However, I always had a great time while there. I agree it does change your perspective as I remember having a lot less tolerance for begging in the USA when I got back, given all that we have here in comparison to people in other parts of the world.
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Just a quick clarification. Cubans dance Mambo style salsa "On2". For those looking to learn salsa make sure you pick the school that teaches the On2 style for Cubans.

Colombian salsa is 100% DIFFERENT!


Mixx
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Quote: (07-03-2011 08:22 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Colombian salsa is 100% DIFFERENT!


Mixx

Yeah, Colombian salsa, especially in Cali, is different than anything I've seen. It kind of reminds me of "Kid and Play" with all the fancy footwork. i once saw a documentary that talked about how the Colombians used to play records at a faster speed and how that influenced Colombian salsa music and the way they dance.

The closest I've come to dancing with Colombians is Cumbia in Costa Rica, which is noting like the salsa. I hope to go to Cali one day to experience it first hand. I wanted to go to the big festival between Christmas and New Years but the flights are too expensive for my taste.

I dance NY Style mambo On2, but I used to dance a little bit of Casino Rueda and also LA style On1 so when I was in Cuba I could pretty much make it happen. They also danced Rumba, Son and other dances that predate Salsa so that was fun. You can actually get a dance education there if you are interested in the traditional dances that came from the shores of Africa all the way up to the modern dances of today.

IMO, one difference between Cuba and a lot of other places is the rich history and pride in culture there. In addition, the black Cubans tend to embrace their African roots as opposed to, for instance, Dominicans.
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