[demolition]

(05-13-2014 11:14 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  

Is there less wiping?

Yes. It won't be every time but there will be times when you are able to achieve a no-wipe shit. If you're civilized you'll wipe anyway, but it's more for form's sake.

For those of you squatting on the edge of the bowl, I don't recommend it, you're liable to break the bowl. Some kind of platform is needed to hold your weight, although you could probably make your own from cinder blocks and/or wood easily.

[Dusty]

(05-14-2014 08:46 AM)demolition Wrote:  

For those of you squatting on the edge of the bowl, I don't recommend it, you're liable to break the bowl. Some kind of platform is needed to hold your weight, although you could probably make your own from cinder blocks and/or wood easily.

Sounds like it would make for an undesirable conversation piece when you have guests over.

[soup]

just lean forward when you sit down.

[Dusty]

(05-14-2014 10:39 AM)soup Wrote:  

just lean forward when you sit down.

Someone should take a pic of them-self shitting in this position reading the book Lean In.

[demolition]

(05-14-2014 10:35 AM)Dusty Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 08:46 AM)demolition Wrote:  

For those of you squatting on the edge of the bowl, I don't recommend it, you're liable to break the bowl. Some kind of platform is needed to hold your weight, although you could probably make your own from cinder blocks and/or wood easily.

Sounds like it would make for an undesirable conversation piece when you have guests over.

Not sure I agree. You can put it away, or if you're not scared of people knowing how you shit just explain how it's healthier, or tell a story of how you traveled a lot and got accustomed to that style of toilet.

[Dusty]

(05-14-2014 06:32 PM)demolition Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:35 AM)Dusty Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 08:46 AM)demolition Wrote:  

For those of you squatting on the edge of the bowl, I don't recommend it, you're liable to break the bowl. Some kind of platform is needed to hold your weight, although you could probably make your own from cinder blocks and/or wood easily.

Sounds like it would make for an undesirable conversation piece when you have guests over.

Not sure I agree. You can put it away, or if you're not scared of people knowing how you shit just explain how it's healthier, or tell a story of how you traveled a lot and got accustomed to that style of toilet.

I don't know. I imagine bringing some bitch back to my pad, and when she goes to use the restroom, she sees some cinder block and wooden contraption at the base of the toilet. Gonna raise some eyebrows.

[rekruler]

When I read the title I was fully expecting this to be about a man's struggle to maintain rectal integrity while lifting heavy.

[Peregrine]

Relevant: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/03/19...a-samurai/

First time I tried it, shit literally slid out of me. Subsequent attempts were not as dramatic or effective.

[BadWolf]

Western toliets = Alpha
Eastern toliets = Beta

Anybody whos saying this is normal and more hygenic has never been to China. Rarely are toilets cleaned ANYWHERE in the country. The reason there is no toilet paper in the stall is simple, you have to provide your own because old Chinese people will steal anything not attached to a wall. Most toilets in China are dirtier than the most disgusting gas station toilet I've been to. There is frequently sh1t left in the bowl or even strewn about on the sides of the walls. More than once it seems, people who use this technique so frequently, miss the target and end up half sh1tting up the sides of the bowl. I often wonder how many fall in. Also just a fast fact, most Chinese smoke while sh1tting, its incredibly annoying and the smell of Chinese sh1t mixed with cheap cigarrettes is disgusting at the best of times.

Also this 'technique' makes it so that when Chinese first realize they have to sh1t, their pants are literally about to explode off and available public washrooms are a minimum, I think I know of 5 in the entire city of 30 million people, 1 which is fit for use by the western public. Most Asians can't hold their sh1t together at the best of times, you'll frequently see them in full bore heading for the toilet with their hand over their arse as they never been taught to hold it in for when its appropriate. If you come here you will frequently see children as young as 16, decorating a corner of the subway in full view of EVERYONE. Every now and then a grandmother will drop a deuce in full view, I really don't know what thats about, simply shameless. I'm not kidding.

The western toilet is an evolution in thought and technique. Its beautiful and eloquent allowing one to read a paper or enjoy a magazine while keeping bodily noises discreet and smells to a minimum. There are no blowbacks or shotgun blasts over the adjacent walls, no disease or plague carrying sh1t for you to inhale or slip on. You have a target area to hit and thats where your care package ends its journey. Frequently, co-workers using, squatty potties, will tell me they missed the mark or fell over backwards. There is no clear advantage for these toliets except that they are CHEAPER by about 50%.

I'm a fan and staunch defender of the Western bathroom, its fit for a king, squat toilets are for dirty peasants. RARELY are there even DOORS on the toliet stalls here. My ex gf use to sh1t with the door wide open staring me right in the face and blabbing her mouth off (also chinese). So please, anyone using a squatty potty belongs squarely in the 3rd world, that's why you'll never see them in the West. If there is one thing to be proud of in the West, its that we are the true kings of our domain and we treat our guests like royalty. I've yet to see a king squatting over his throne.

[speakeasy]

^^^ Totally agree. Not to mention that shit falling into water helps to mute the smell a bit. As bad as it still is it's even worse if there's no water for it to fall in. I've taken a dump in the woods before so I speak from experience.


It would seem if you eat a high fiber diet, it should all come out pretty easily no matter what angle. Aim to have loose stool. More fruits, nuts, granola and vegetables with roughage. As long as its coming out loose I don't think it will be damaging to your colon if you're sitting on a normal Western toilet.

[Espresso]

(05-15-2014 01:34 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Western toliets = Alpha
Eastern toliets = Beta

Anybody whos saying this is normal and more hygenic has never been to China. Rarely are toilets cleaned ANYWHERE in the country. The reason there is no toilet paper in the stall is simple, you have to provide your own because old Chinese people will steal anything not attached to a wall. Most toilets in China are dirtier than the most disgusting gas station toilet I've been to. There is frequently sh1t left in the bowl or even strewn about on the sides of the walls. More than once it seems, people who use this technique so frequently, miss the target and end up half sh1tting up the sides of the bowl. I often wonder how many fall in. Also just a fast fact, most Chinese smoke while sh1tting, its incredibly annoying and the smell of Chinese sh1t mixed with cheap cigarrettes is disgusting at the best of times.

Also this 'technique' makes it so that when Chinese first realize they have to sh1t, their pants are literally about to explode off and available public washrooms are a minimum, I think I know of 5 in the entire city of 30 million people, 1 which is fit for use by the western public. Most Asians can't hold their sh1t together at the best of times, you'll frequently see them in full bore heading for the toilet with their hand over their arse as they never been taught to hold it in for when its appropriate. If you come here you will frequently see children as young as 16, decorating a corner of the subway in full view of EVERYONE. Every now and then a grandmother will drop a deuce in full view, I really don't know what thats about, simply shameless. I'm not kidding.

The western toilet is an evolution in thought and technique. Its beautiful and eloquent allowing one to read a paper or enjoy a magazine while keeping bodily noises discreet and smells to a minimum. There are no blowbacks or shotgun blasts over the adjacent walls, no disease or plague carrying sh1t for you to inhale or slip on. You have a target area to hit and thats where your care package ends its journey. Frequently, co-workers using, squatty potties, will tell me they missed the mark or fell over backwards. There is no clear advantage for these toliets except that they are CHEAPER by about 50%.

I'm a fan and staunch defender of the Western bathroom, its fit for a king, squat toilets are for dirty peasants. RARELY are there even DOORS on the toliet stalls here. My ex gf use to sh1t with the door wide open staring me right in the face and blabbing her mouth off (also chinese). So please, anyone using a squatty potty belongs squarely in the 3rd world, that's why you'll never see them in the West. If there is one thing to be proud of in the West, its that we are the true kings of our domain and we treat our guests like royalty. I've yet to see a king squatting over his throne.

I don't think anybody here is arguing that the typical public squat toilet in China is not disgusting. Or that the reason squat toilets are popular in Asia is because of the health benefits as opposed to the lower cost.

However, while the sitting toilet was designed for its many conveniences (and conveniences it sure has!), I doubt it was designed with this potential intestinal angling problem in mind.

So, why not have the best of both worlds? It's not one or the other. A foot rest for example isn't going to suddenly transform your western-toilet into a sprawling shit show. But it may prevent you getting colon cancer and other nasty shit, some say. And that is what were are trying to figure out here, how valid those claims are.

[BadWolf]

Well maybe I should start exporting squat toilets.

My biggest concern is the angle of ass to pants, you are looking at some potentially disastrous situations if you are off even a little. Secondly your pants must be pulled at such a distance that they neither touch the surface of toilet nor the ground you are hunched over. Lets be real here, the types of people that use squat toilets are not the most hygenic and the toilets themselves are really made for the 'fire and forget' crowd. I say this because I had one in a previous apartment. Luckily there was a walmart nearby and I managed to buy a folding chair that had a toilet seat attached to the top. It positions neatly over the squat toilet but the amount of splashback when flushing from the open squat is horrendous. Often times I will drop something that rivals the capacity of the squat toliet, you have to remember also that these toilets are made with 'little people' in mind. I think the stress of all these factors alone, negates any potential gains over the traditional western toilet.

That is just my opinion but I'm very much a 'bathroom time' aficando and get most of my important readings done there. Infact, I would say that its my favorite time of the day, even beating out sex with the wife. For the man who enjoys quality time with the porcelain goddess, no other pew will suffice.

[RexImperator]

The health benefits sound plausible to me, but BadWolf totally killed it with that post.

[Kingsley Davis]

Another reason why RVF is the "shit". Man inquiring on where to locate Middle Eastern pussy stateside turn into toilet habits.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11731-...#pid190801

[PapayaTapper]

Sometimes when surfing in tropical climates the last thing I want to do is paddle in to take a dump.

To me there's nothing more comfortable and natural than extruding a massive loaf while swimming in warm ocean water. It's probably like giving natural child birth

[rudebwoy]

What do you do when you are at a public toilet?

I have been squatting for years, if I am lazy I might hold onto that assist bar on the side. The only time I sit on a toilet is my personal one at home, no one else uses it except me.

I squat, lean forward a bit and I tend to get a better release.

FYI - I have seen pit toilets in Paris years ago. A simple hole in the floor with raised foot petals.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-03-2014 11:48 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

What do you do when you are at a public toilet?

I have been squatting for years, if I am lazy I might hold onto that assist bar on the side. The only time I sit on a toilet is my personal one at home, no one else uses it except me.

I squat, lean forward a bit and I tend to get a better release.

FYI - I have seen pit toilets in Paris years ago. A simple hole in the floor with raised foot petals.

Same. I approach public bathrooms as if every surface is covered in Ebola virus and the toilet is radioactive.

[PapayaTapper]

Just remembered this. Couple years ago I was playing poker at friend of a friends house. By two in the morning there's like 8 guys and two girls left playing when we decided to take a break. I go to the guest bathroom to take a leak but the doors locked, so I go down the hall to the master bedroom and walk into the bathroom which is open and I see one of the guys in this position:



I kid you not. Head down on the toilet tank cover with full on hug.

I couldn't help but let out a laugh and "Dude...what the fuck are you doing?"

Needless to say I was laughing so hard I had to tell everyone why. It became the funniest fucking thing that night.

Turns out the guy always shits this way and his buddy that owned the house had been trying to figure out for years who was streaking the front of his toilet bowls and how it was even possible.

Apparently the "reverse dump" is a thing according to Urban Dictionary



"Reverse dump"

The act of taking a dump while facing the tank of the toilet. this enables the dumper to utilize the top of the tank as a work surface for a computer, writing letters, accounting amongst other tasks. It also provides a place to rest arms/elbows.

"Reverse koala"

A poo that lands on the front sloping part of the toilet bowl is called a reverse koala.

Picture a koala bear with its arms wrapped around a tree.
Now picture a toilet.
Now picture yourself wrapped around the toilet like the koala.
You will find yourself in reverse on the toilet.
Now take an enormous shit. Where's that shit gonna end up?
In the wrong place, that's where!

[MidWest]

When I first saw this thread I couldn't stop laughing but i'll chime in.

I've taken one squatting shit like that in the woods in Mexico. It felt very uncomfortable because I thought my shit was eventually going to go on my pants somewhat, that's just how it felt like. The worst part about this is that I didn't have toilet paper with me so I had to use a rock next to me to wipe my ass, leaving a big scrape in my hole in which I was walking like a penguin all day.

never again.

[Kaywhole]

I take off my shoes and pants and stand on the seat then I squat down until my tailbone touches the seat and shit. No need for some plastic thing. I do this at other peoples' houses and in public. There isn't less wiping and it smells worse because your asscheeks aren't corking up the pot. Your shit does kind of fall out easier though.

[kbell]

Shitting while doing barbell squats doesn't sound fun. Although the douchette method of cleaning the ass sounds interesting. Especially if you have those shits that don't clean well with paper, and you end up using half a roll to clean your ass. How does it work by the way?

[Suits]

(08-03-2014 03:06 PM)Kaywhole Wrote:  

I take off my shoes and pants and stand on the seat then I squat down until my tailbone touches the seat and shit. No need for some plastic thing. I do this at other peoples' houses and in public. There isn't less wiping and it smells worse because your asscheeks aren't corking up the pot. Your shit does kind of fall out easier though.

How big are your ass-cheeks?

[VincentVinturi]

(05-15-2014 01:34 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Western toliets = Alpha
Eastern toliets = Beta

Anybody whos saying this is normal and more hygenic has never been to China. Rarely are toilets cleaned ANYWHERE in the country. The reason there is no toilet paper in the stall is simple, you have to provide your own because old Chinese people will steal anything not attached to a wall. Most toilets in China are dirtier than the most disgusting gas station toilet I've been to. There is frequently sh1t left in the bowl or even strewn about on the sides of the walls. More than once it seems, people who use this technique so frequently, miss the target and end up half sh1tting up the sides of the bowl. I often wonder how many fall in. Also just a fast fact, most Chinese smoke while sh1tting, its incredibly annoying and the smell of Chinese sh1t mixed with cheap cigarrettes is disgusting at the best of times.

Also this 'technique' makes it so that when Chinese first realize they have to sh1t, their pants are literally about to explode off and available public washrooms are a minimum, I think I know of 5 in the entire city of 30 million people, 1 which is fit for use by the western public. Most Asians can't hold their sh1t together at the best of times, you'll frequently see them in full bore heading for the toilet with their hand over their arse as they never been taught to hold it in for when its appropriate. If you come here you will frequently see children as young as 16, decorating a corner of the subway in full view of EVERYONE. Every now and then a grandmother will drop a deuce in full view, I really don't know what thats about, simply shameless. I'm not kidding.

The western toilet is an evolution in thought and technique. Its beautiful and eloquent allowing one to read a paper or enjoy a magazine while keeping bodily noises discreet and smells to a minimum. There are no blowbacks or shotgun blasts over the adjacent walls, no disease or plague carrying sh1t for you to inhale or slip on. You have a target area to hit and thats where your care package ends its journey. Frequently, co-workers using, squatty potties, will tell me they missed the mark or fell over backwards. There is no clear advantage for these toliets except that they are CHEAPER by about 50%.

I'm a fan and staunch defender of the Western bathroom, its fit for a king, squat toilets are for dirty peasants. RARELY are there even DOORS on the toliet stalls here. My ex gf use to sh1t with the door wide open staring me right in the face and blabbing her mouth off (also chinese). So please, anyone using a squatty potty belongs squarely in the 3rd world, that's why you'll never see them in the West. If there is one thing to be proud of in the West, its that we are the true kings of our domain and we treat our guests like royalty. I've yet to see a king squatting over his throne.

I'm sure China and Chinese toilets are as disgusting as you say. However, that has nothing to do with the fact that pooping in a squatting position is healthier than sitting on a Western toilet.

It may be superior in terms of hygiene to use Western style toilets. But it doesn't mean you're required to sit in the inferior Western pooping position in the name of being civilized any more than you're required to eat fast food because it's an advancement in eating convenience.

[The Beast1]

(08-05-2014 01:38 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 01:34 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Western toliets = Alpha
Eastern toliets = Beta

Anybody whos saying this is normal and more hygenic has never been to China. Rarely are toilets cleaned ANYWHERE in the country. The reason there is no toilet paper in the stall is simple, you have to provide your own because old Chinese people will steal anything not attached to a wall. Most toilets in China are dirtier than the most disgusting gas station toilet I've been to. There is frequently sh1t left in the bowl or even strewn about on the sides of the walls. More than once it seems, people who use this technique so frequently, miss the target and end up half sh1tting up the sides of the bowl. I often wonder how many fall in. Also just a fast fact, most Chinese smoke while sh1tting, its incredibly annoying and the smell of Chinese sh1t mixed with cheap cigarrettes is disgusting at the best of times.

Also this 'technique' makes it so that when Chinese first realize they have to sh1t, their pants are literally about to explode off and available public washrooms are a minimum, I think I know of 5 in the entire city of 30 million people, 1 which is fit for use by the western public. Most Asians can't hold their sh1t together at the best of times, you'll frequently see them in full bore heading for the toilet with their hand over their arse as they never been taught to hold it in for when its appropriate. If you come here you will frequently see children as young as 16, decorating a corner of the subway in full view of EVERYONE. Every now and then a grandmother will drop a deuce in full view, I really don't know what thats about, simply shameless. I'm not kidding.

The western toilet is an evolution in thought and technique. Its beautiful and eloquent allowing one to read a paper or enjoy a magazine while keeping bodily noises discreet and smells to a minimum. There are no blowbacks or shotgun blasts over the adjacent walls, no disease or plague carrying sh1t for you to inhale or slip on. You have a target area to hit and thats where your care package ends its journey. Frequently, co-workers using, squatty potties, will tell me they missed the mark or fell over backwards. There is no clear advantage for these toliets except that they are CHEAPER by about 50%.

I'm a fan and staunch defender of the Western bathroom, its fit for a king, squat toilets are for dirty peasants. RARELY are there even DOORS on the toliet stalls here. My ex gf use to sh1t with the door wide open staring me right in the face and blabbing her mouth off (also chinese). So please, anyone using a squatty potty belongs squarely in the 3rd world, that's why you'll never see them in the West. If there is one thing to be proud of in the West, its that we are the true kings of our domain and we treat our guests like royalty. I've yet to see a king squatting over his throne.

I'm sure China and Chinese toilets are as disgusting as you say. However, that has nothing to do with the fact that pooping in a squatting position is healthier than sitting on a Western toilet.

It may be superior in terms of hygiene to use Western style toilets. But it doesn't mean you're required to sit in the inferior Western pooping position in the name of being civilized any more than you're required to eat fast food because it's an advancement in eating convenience.

Apples oranges with the food comparison bro. Since when is a lack of hygiene healthier than doing it naturally squat position.

Does this look hygienic?


Get some coffee tins and raise your legs off of the floor if you want to live like everyone else in the world. But there is no argument in the world that's going to make that picture any less appetizing.

[VincentVinturi]

Quote:

Get some coffee tins and raise your legs off of the floor if you want to live like everyone else in the world. But there is no argument in the world that's going to make that picture any less appetizing.

Actually, I just perch on my Western toilet like a gargoyle. East meets West baby.