[Renberg]

I'm writing this thread because I am confused; I say that I do not understand what has happened to white women but I think the key words here might be American women. I am twenty-one years old, so what I say may be a tad judgmental. However, everything I write is based off of observation.

Primarily, I feel that immaturity is the new hilarious. Every girl thinks that she's funny in a one-of-a-kind way.

It has been posted in another thread that every woman on OK Cupid states that she is sarcastic (http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-19306.html, and it's obvious that all American women are not truly as witty as they think. But, although they are not all the hilarious, sarcastic and beautiful people that they claim to be, attempted sarcasm is taking over the internet and the minds of women making conversation bland.

On multiple occasions, after sending something funny to a girl, I've received a text message back that reads, "I can't even." Every time I get a text that says this or see it on the web, I want to rip my eyes out. You can't even? You can't even what? You can't even hold an intelligible conversation?

White, American women are becoming hypersensitive know-it-alls. Yes, there are funny girls out there. But many fail to impress me. Maybe I have high standards. Also, every chick thinks she's Ernest Hemingway; a scholar and an alcoholic. White women are attempting to be men. But despite what they claim, they are the worst versions of men, all of whom are faux-witty, get offended at the drop of a hat and say things that make me want to kill myself. I do not understand why a society of growing technological and scientific advances has become so simple and so stereotypically "White."

Is this too much of a generalization?

[Big Country]

It's the new social media driven generation. Everyone wants to be unique, but all they do is imitate what they see as unique. White girls are generally shallow but try their hardest to seem like they're not. I rarely find women funny, and when I do, it is usually the pitying kind.

Some of my favourite anecdotal evidence: My ex gave me an engraved zippo with a Bukowski quote on it. "Find what you love and let it kill you". A "model" within my social circle saw it, fell in love with its deepness and got it tattooed. She had never heard of Bukowski.

A girl we pass around tried to debate me on the issue of the Ukraine. I was trying to explain the geographical realities of the situation (Russia is on their doorstep) but she wasn't having it. Actually got upset that I would suggest Russia had valid reasons for what they did. (I didn't) It was no longer a debate.

Our technology is only making us (north americans) less intelligent and less critical. It's a damn shame.

On the plus side, being half way intelligent makes things very easy when hunting. Sometimes I feel as though I am losing a part of my soul when I game a dumb broad. The girls that pretend to be smart get so intimidated when confronted by real intellect. As to the "I can't even", that is a plague.

If all else fails, heed the words of Lupe and "dumb it down"

[Samseau]

Quote:

It has been posted in another thread that every woman on OK Cupid states that she is sarcastic

Problem identified. Online dating is still bottom of the barrel for dating, especially for white girls. Don't take that shit seriously more than 75% of the women on there are broken.

Things I say in real life cannot be said over text, since the text medium is so stilted and limited. Trying to flirt via text is like trying to get a sense of real combat by playing first-person shooters.

[Onto]

(05-13-2014 05:49 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

White women are attempting to be men. But despite what they claim, they are the worst versions of men,

Is this too much of a generalization?

I think a generalization or stereotype is another way of stating there is a truth to be seen in this.

It's certainly not "white" women, but American women. They are trying to be men, but they don't know what it means to be a developed man, instead they act like undeveloped men (teenage boys). Carl Jung refered to this as the "animus".

They are really animus-possesed amazons, and though physically attractive, I can't stand more than a couple minuites of talking to one before I want to walk away.

When they are saying they are sarcastic, I've found this is another way of confessing they are a self-centered bitch who has no capacity to care about others and can only feel less empty with themselves by putting down the world around them.

[J DOE]

A buddy of mine is seriously contemplating getting a tattoo of a dream-catcher because so many white girls have them.

[Deluge]

(05-13-2014 05:49 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

Primarily, I feel that immaturity is the new hilarious. Every girl thinks that she's funny in a one-of-a-kind way.

It has been posted in another thread that every woman on OK Cupid states that she is sarcastic (http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-19306.html, and it's obvious that all American women are not truly as witty as they think. But, although they are not all the hilarious, sarcastic and beautiful people that they claim to be, attempted sarcasm is taking over the internet and the minds of women making conversation bland.

On multiple occasions, after sending something funny to a girl, I've received a text message back that reads, "I can't even." Every time I get a text that says this or see it on the web, I want to rip my eyes out. You can't even? You can't even what? You can't even hold an intelligible conversation?

White, American women are becoming hypersensitive know-it-alls. Yes, there are funny girls out there. But many fail to impress me. Maybe I have high standards. Also, every chick thinks she's Ernest Hemingway; a scholar and an alcoholic. White women are attempting to be men. But despite what they claim, they are the worst versions of men, all of whom are faux-witty, get offended at the drop of a hat and say things that make me want to kill myself. I do not understand why a society of growing technological and scientific advances has become so simple and so stereotypically "White."

Is this too much of a generalization?

Jesus Renberg, so much hate. For your own sake you need to be more indifferent. If bitches thinking they're the next Tina Fey gets you this butthurt so easily you're in for a very angry, bitter and misanthropic life.



Make peace with the fact that women are grown-up children and go smoke a jay.

[Foolsgo1d]

Want immaturity? Go and socialise with different groups of girls. Different faces, same thing.

[berserk]

(05-13-2014 07:55 AM)Onto Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 05:49 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

White women are attempting to be men. But despite what they claim, they are the worst versions of men,

Is this too much of a generalization?

I think a generalization or stereotype is another way of stating there is a truth to be seen in this.

It's certainly not "white" women, but American women. They are trying to be men, but they don't know what it means to be a developed man, instead they act like undeveloped men (teenage boys). Carl Jung refered to this as the "animus".

They are really animus-possesed amazons, and though physically attractive, I can't stand more than a couple minuites of talking to one before I want to walk away.

When they are saying they are sarcastic, I've found this is another way of confessing they are a self-centered bitch who has no capacity to care about others and can only feel less empty with themselves by putting down the world around them.

Now that you brought up Jung, another interesting takeaway is that Jung believed that falling in love as a teenager or young adult is nothing more than self-love mirrored in the other.

The young woman projects her immature idea of the ideal masculine on her boyfriend, and the young man projects his immature idea of the ideal feminine on his girlfriend.

None of them really see the other, so they can't really love the other. They are in love with the subconscious anima/animus in themselves.

This is why you have white knights saying 'She was nothing like I thought she was' or 'But I love her so much' after she has cheated, deceived and otherwise shown her disdain for him.

For women, this is the young girl imagining how the pump and dump alpha is 'so deep' and 'he really loves me, he just doesn't show it' and many other similar delusions.

I find this thesis by Jung very interesting and I think it explains the phenomena of sluts and white knights very well. We have generations of people who essentially stay stuck in the teenage psychology forever. They don't grow out of this narcissistic anima/animus phase and simply are not capable of actually seeing the other person as they are, hence the feelings of being let down or deceived.

I also think you can see this in the changing masculine ideals in popular media. The brooding tough guy like Clint or Jack Nicholson (actual man) is out and the effeminate pretty boy (teenage girl ideal) is in. Older and older girls now openly admit their lust for teen boy bands for example.

[Onto]

Beserk - That is exactly right. I think we can go even further and say that every person has a "faceless image" of their ideal mate before they meet them. When they eventually do meet someone that "seems" to have this "face", we project that onto them and ignore the rest.

This can't last however, so after 1-2 years we can't help but see the real person, and notice there is something wrong or "missing" in the relationship. Either we deduce the problem is with the person and we break up or we think the problem is we aren't married. If we get engaged then the question of what is missing becomes deferred and all the energy is focused on the engagement, marriage, and honeymoon.

After a while the question of what is lacking comes back and it's either divorce time or children time. One of those two paths will help to sweep away the question.

Anything to get rid of the question...."What is it about life that there seems to be something missing?"

That said, where does the faceless image come from?

I think Jung said we project our own shadow onto the world to either have it, fix it, punish it, or criticize it. So that faceless image is indeed a part of ourselves, but also it's made up of the things we lack within ourselves too.

[Onto]

(05-13-2014 08:15 AM)berserk Wrote:  

The brooding tough guy like Clint or Jack Nicholson (actual man) is out and the effeminate pretty boy (teenage girl ideal) is in. Older and older girls now openly admit their lust for teen boy bands for example.

This is spot on, and I think it's also why we are seeing so many female teachers going after high school students. And why "cougars" are now being glorified.

[Parlay44]

Sarcasm is a subtle art. Not everyone gets it. Not every is supposed to get it. White Americal girls are snarky(bitchy) not sarcastic. There's a difference.

[El Rey]

I think what you are talking about is not only indicative of American women, but most of the millenial generation here in the states. Everything is sarcastic, snarky, ironic, nothing is too serious. And everyone gets offended at the slightest thing.

Follow the advice that others have given you in this thread. Don't take these people and life so seriously. Laugh at them. Don't apologize for yourself or your actions. Most of the people in this generation are overgrown children. Treat them as such. Laugh at them and pat them on the head. And if she's a hot broad, bang her. Rinse and repeat

[Renberg]

(05-13-2014 08:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 05:49 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

Primarily, I feel that immaturity is the new hilarious. Every girl thinks that she's funny in a one-of-a-kind way.

It has been posted in another thread that every woman on OK Cupid states that she is sarcastic (http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-19306.html, and it's obvious that all American women are not truly as witty as they think. But, although they are not all the hilarious, sarcastic and beautiful people that they claim to be, attempted sarcasm is taking over the internet and the minds of women making conversation bland.

On multiple occasions, after sending something funny to a girl, I've received a text message back that reads, "I can't even." Every time I get a text that says this or see it on the web, I want to rip my eyes out. You can't even? You can't even what? You can't even hold an intelligible conversation?

White, American women are becoming hypersensitive know-it-alls. Yes, there are funny girls out there. But many fail to impress me. Maybe I have high standards. Also, every chick thinks she's Ernest Hemingway; a scholar and an alcoholic. White women are attempting to be men. But despite what they claim, they are the worst versions of men, all of whom are faux-witty, get offended at the drop of a hat and say things that make me want to kill myself. I do not understand why a society of growing technological and scientific advances has become so simple and so stereotypically "White."

Is this too much of a generalization?

Make peace with the fact that women are grown-up children and go smoke a jay.

Women as grown-up children...I assume you mean that physically and not mentally/emotionally. I dig that women as children thread on the forum. As far as the jay-smoking goes, maybe after my next paycheck.

Also, @Onto, I really enjoy Roosh's article, which mentions what you're talking about, on The Hypocrisy of Feminism.

[Deluge]

(05-13-2014 09:29 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

Women as grown-up children...I assume you mean that physically and not mentally/emotionally. I dig that women as children thread on the forum. As far as the jay-smoking goes, maybe after my next paycheck.

No, I meant women are grown-up children mentally/emotionally, not physically.... That would make me a pedophile with a gigantism fetish.

[presidentcarter]

The last time I talked to an American women (of Latin origin) she told me I was being "some type of way"...apparently from that hip hop song. She used it in the midst of trying to sound intelligent as if it was a common expression of an educated person. I just shook my head. All hope is lost in the West.

[berserk]

(05-13-2014 09:00 AM)Onto Wrote:  

Beserk - That is exactly right. I think we can go even further and say that every person has a "faceless image" of their ideal mate before they meet them. When they eventually do meet someone that "seems" to have this "face", we project that onto them and ignore the rest.

This can't last however, so after 1-2 years we can't help but see the real person, and notice there is something wrong or "missing" in the relationship. Either we deduce the problem is with the person and we break up or we think the problem is we aren't married. If we get engaged then the question of what is missing becomes deferred and all the energy is focused on the engagement, marriage, and honeymoon.

After a while the question of what is lacking comes back and it's either divorce time or children time. One of those two paths will help to sweep away the question.

Anything to get rid of the question...."What is it about life that there seems to be something missing?"

That said, where does the faceless image come from?

I think Jung said we project our own shadow onto the world to either have it, fix it, punish it, or criticize it. So that faceless image is indeed a part of ourselves, but also it's made up of the things we lack within ourselves too.

As I see it were it happens in real life, a lot of guys look for women to have this motherly unconditional love and therefore become emotionally needy. Where guys should work at loving themselves unconditionally instead.

Girls who look for a fatherly strong willed and force of nature like quality, where they will be looking for this unrealistic alpha that never wavers, where they should work more on being more responsible for their own lives.

Of course, a lot of game could be said about appearing as the animus projection. I've said in joking before, that if you're looking to get laid with a woman out for a one night stand, the more you reveal about yourself, the less your chances. Figure out what her ideal animus/alpha is and play into it.

I googled and found this interesting article from an Irish psychology association, about how the masculine women is taken over by her animus, which is a false idea of what manhood is about:

Quote:

Whilst the “unliberated” woman will project her animus outwards through
 romantic novels, stereotyped relationships and an existence lived through the men in 
her life, the liberated woman falls into the other side of the trap, i.e. she becomes identified with her animus and loses the vital link with her feminine identity, living on a false
 (for a woman) masculine level. Such a woman will then find herself in a double-bind sit
uation, where her idealisation of the masculine leads her to denigrate the feminine.

http://iahip.org/inside-out/issue-7-wint...n%E2%80%A8

[Barron]

(05-13-2014 07:45 AM)mauds Wrote:  

Sometimes I feel as though I am losing a part of my soul when I game a dumb broad. The girls that pretend to be smart get so intimidated when confronted by real intellect. As to the "I can't even", that is a plague.

This. After a while its not even fun watching them stumble over their emotional line of thinking

[MrLemon]

Women in today's society are like rich kids. Never challenged, no consequences.

Human beings are not intended to grow up with an "easy life". They need challenges or their personality does not develop.

It is exactly like building muscle...if you don't stress your muscles, they don't grow. Personalities are exactly the same way. No challenge, no growth.

No compare this to women in the 1950s who had endless social expectations and pressure on them from their mothers and society to be "good women".