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The World's Resources Aren't Running Out
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The World's Resources Aren't Running Out

I am a a shameless optimist about the future, so I agree with a lot of this interesting article from Matt Ridley :

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Ecologists worry that the world's resources come in fixed amounts that will run out, but we have broken through such limits again and again.

How many times have you heard that we humans are "using up" the world's resources, "running out" of oil, "reaching the limits" of the atmosphere's capacity to cope with pollution or "approaching the carrying capacity" of the land's ability to support a greater population? The assumption behind all such statements is that there is a fixed amount of stuff—metals, oil, clean air, land—and that we risk exhausting it through our consumption.

"We are using 50% more resources than the Earth can sustainably produce, and unless we change course, that number will grow fast—by 2030, even two planets will not be enough," says Jim Leape, director general of the World Wide Fund for Nature International (formerly the World Wildlife Fund).

But here's a peculiar feature of human history: We burst through such limits again and again. After all, as a Saudi oil minister once said, the Stone Age didn't end for lack of stone. Ecologists call this "niche construction"—that people (and indeed some other animals) can create new opportunities for themselves by making their habitats more productive in some way. Agriculture is the classic example of niche construction: We stopped relying on nature's bounty and substituted an artificial and much larger bounty.

Economists call the same phenomenon innovation. What frustrates them about ecologists is the latter's tendency to think in terms of static limits. Ecologists can't seem to see that when whale oil starts to run out, petroleum is discovered, or that when farm yields flatten, fertilizer comes along, or that when glass fiber is invented, demand for copper falls.

That frustration is heartily reciprocated. Ecologists think that economists espouse a sort of superstitious magic called "markets" or "prices" to avoid confronting the reality of limits to growth. The easiest way to raise a cheer in a conference of ecologists is to make a rude joke about economists.


I have lived among both tribes. I studied various forms of ecology in an academic setting for seven years and then worked at the Economist magazine for eight years. When I was an ecologist (in the academic sense of the word, not the political one, though I also had antinuclear stickers on my car), I very much espoused the carrying-capacity viewpoint—that there were limits to growth. I nowadays lean to the view that there are no limits because we can invent new ways of doing more with less.

This disagreement goes to the heart of many current political issues and explains much about why people disagree about environmental policy. In the climate debate, for example, pessimists see a limit to the atmosphere's capacity to cope with extra carbon dioxide without rapid warming. So a continuing increase in emissions if economic growth continues will eventually accelerate warming to dangerous rates. But optimists see economic growth leading to technological change that would result in the use of lower-carbon energy. That would allow warming to level off long before it does much harm.

It is striking, for example, that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's recent forecast that temperatures would rise by 3.7 to 4.8 degrees Celsius compared with preindustrial levels by 2100 was based on several assumptions: little technological change, an end to the 50-year fall in population growth rates, a tripling (only) of per capita income and not much improvement in the energy efficiency of the economy. Basically, that would mean a world much like today's but with lots more people burning lots more coal and oil, leading to an increase in emissions. Most economists expect a five- or tenfold increase in income, huge changes in technology and an end to population growth by 2100: not so many more people needing much less carbon.

In 1679, Antonie van Leeuwenhoek, the great Dutch microscopist, estimated that the planet could hold 13.4 billion people, a number that most demographers think we may never reach. Since then, estimates have bounced around between 1 billion and 100 billion, with no sign of converging on an agreed figure.

Economists point out that we keep improving the productivity of each acre of land by applying fertilizer, mechanization, pesticides and irrigation. Further innovation is bound to shift the ceiling upward. Jesse Ausubel at Rockefeller University calculates that the amount of land required to grow a given quantity of food has fallen by 65% over the past 50 years, world-wide.

Ecologists object that these innovations rely on nonrenewable resources, such as oil and gas, or renewable ones that are being used up faster than they are replenished, such as aquifers. So current yields cannot be maintained, let alone improved.

In his recent book "The View from Lazy Point," the ecologist Carl Safina estimates that if everybody had the living standards of Americans, we would need 2.5 Earths because the world's agricultural land just couldn't grow enough food for more than 2.5 billion people at that level of consumption. Harvard emeritus professor E.O. Wilson, one of ecology's patriarchs, reckoned that only if we all turned vegetarian could the world's farms grow enough food to support 10 billion people.

Economists respond by saying that since large parts of the world, especially in Africa, have yet to gain access to fertilizer and modern farming techniques, there is no reason to think that the global land requirements for a given amount of food will cease shrinking any time soon. Indeed, Mr. Ausubel, together with his colleagues Iddo Wernick and Paul Waggoner, came to the startling conclusion that, even with generous assumptions about population growth and growing affluence leading to greater demand for meat and other luxuries, and with ungenerous assumptions about future global yield improvements, we will need less farmland in 2050 than we needed in 2000. (So long, that is, as we don't grow more biofuels on land that could be growing food.)

But surely intensification of yields depends on inputs that may run out? Take water, a commodity that limits the production of food in many places. Estimates made in the 1960s and 1970s of water demand by the year 2000 proved grossly overestimated: The world used half as much water as experts had projected 30 years before.

The reason was greater economy in the use of water by new irrigation techniques. Some countries, such as Israel and Cyprus, have cut water use for irrigation through the use of drip irrigation. Combine these improvements with solar-driven desalination of seawater world-wide, and it is highly unlikely that fresh water will limit human population.

The best-selling book "Limits to Growth," published in 1972 by the Club of Rome (an influential global think tank), argued that we would have bumped our heads against all sorts of ceilings by now, running short of various metals, fuels, minerals and space. Why did it not happen? In a word, technology: better mining techniques, more frugal use of materials, and if scarcity causes price increases, substitution by cheaper material. We use 100 times thinner gold plating on computer connectors than we did 40 years ago. The steel content of cars and buildings keeps on falling.

Until about 10 years ago, it was reasonable to expect that natural gas might run out in a few short decades and oil soon thereafter. If that were to happen, agricultural yields would plummet, and the world would be faced with a stark dilemma: Plow up all the remaining rain forest to grow food, or starve.

But thanks to fracking and the shale revolution, peak oil and gas have been postponed. They will run out one day, but only in the sense that you will run out of Atlantic Ocean one day if you take a rowboat west out of a harbor in Ireland. Just as you are likely to stop rowing long before you bump into Newfoundland, so we may well find cheap substitutes for fossil fuels long before they run out.

The economist and metals dealer Tim Worstall gives the example of tellurium, a key ingredient of some kinds of solar panels. Tellurium is one of the rarest elements in the Earth's crust—one atom per billion. Will it soon run out? Mr. Worstall estimates that there are 120 million tons of it, or a million years' supply altogether. It is sufficiently concentrated in the residues from refining copper ores, called copper slimes, to be worth extracting for a very long time to come. One day, it will also be recycled as old solar panels get cannibalized to make new ones.

Or take phosphorus, an element vital to agricultural fertility. The richest phosphate mines, such as on the island of Nauru in the South Pacific, are all but exhausted. Does that mean the world is running out? No: There are extensive lower grade deposits, and if we get desperate, all the phosphorus atoms put into the ground over past centuries still exist, especially in the mud of estuaries. It's just a matter of concentrating them again.

In 1972, the ecologist Paul Ehrlich of Stanford University came up with a simple formula called IPAT, which stated that the impact of humankind was equal to population multiplied by affluence multiplied again by technology. In other words, the damage done to Earth increases the more people there are, the richer they get and the more technology they have.

Many ecologists still subscribe to this doctrine, which has attained the status of holy writ in ecology. But the past 40 years haven't been kind to it. In many respects, greater affluence and new technology have led to less human impact on the planet, not more. Richer people with new technologies tend not to collect firewood and bushmeat from natural forests; instead, they use electricity and farmed chicken—both of which need much less land. In 2006, Mr. Ausubel calculated that no country with a GDP per head greater than $4,600 has a falling stock of forest (in density as well as in acreage).

Haiti is 98% deforested and literally brown on satellite images, compared with its green, well-forested neighbor, the Dominican Republic. The difference stems from Haiti's poverty, which causes it to rely on charcoal for domestic and industrial energy, whereas the Dominican Republic is wealthy enough to use fossil fuels, subsidizing propane gas for cooking fuel specifically so that people won't cut down forests.

Part of the problem is that the word "consumption" means different things to the two tribes. Ecologists use it to mean "the act of using up a resource"; economists mean "the purchase of goods and services by the public" (both definitions taken from the Oxford dictionary).

But in what sense is water, tellurium or phosphorus "used up" when products made with them are bought by the public? They still exist in the objects themselves or in the environment. Water returns to the environment through sewage and can be reused. Phosphorus gets recycled through compost. Tellurium is in solar panels, which can be recycled. As the economist Thomas Sowell wrote in his 1980 book "Knowledge and Decisions," "Although we speak loosely of 'production,' man neither creates nor destroys matter, but only transforms it."

Given that innovation—or "niche construction"—causes ever more productivity, how do ecologists justify the claim that we are already overdrawn at the planetary bank and would need at least another planet to sustain the lifestyles of 10 billion people at U.S. standards of living?

Examine the calculations done by a group called the Global Footprint Network—a think tank founded by Mathis Wackernagel in Oakland, Calif., and supported by more than 70 international environmental organizations—and it becomes clear. The group assumes that the fossil fuels burned in the pursuit of higher yields must be offset in the future by tree planting on a scale that could soak up the emitted carbon dioxide. A widely used measure of "ecological footprint" simply assumes that 54% of the acreage we need should be devoted to "carbon uptake."

But what if tree planting wasn't the only way to soak up carbon dioxide? Or if trees grew faster when irrigated and fertilized so you needed fewer of them? Or if we cut emissions, as the U.S. has recently done by substituting gas for coal in electricity generation? Or if we tolerated some increase in emissions (which are measurably increasing crop yields, by the way)? Any of these factors could wipe out a huge chunk of the deemed ecological overdraft and put us back in planetary credit.

Helmut Haberl of Klagenfurt University in Austria is a rare example of an ecologist who takes economics seriously. He points out that his fellow ecologists have been using "human appropriation of net primary production"—that is, the percentage of the world's green vegetation eaten or prevented from growing by us and our domestic animals—as an indicator of ecological limits to growth. Some ecologists had begun to argue that we were using half or more of all the greenery on the planet.

This is wrong, says Dr. Haberl, for several reasons. First, the amount appropriated is still fairly low: About 14.2% is eaten by us and our animals, and an additional 9.6% is prevented from growing by goats and buildings, according to his estimates. Second, most economic growth happens without any greater use of biomass. Indeed, human appropriation usually declines as a country industrializes and the harvest grows—as a result of agricultural intensification rather than through plowing more land.

Finally, human activities actually increase the production of green vegetation in natural ecosystems. Fertilizer taken up by crops is carried into forests and rivers by wild birds and animals, where it boosts yields of wild vegetation too (sometimes too much, causing algal blooms in water). In places like the Nile delta, wild ecosystems are more productive than they would be without human intervention, despite the fact that much of the land is used for growing human food.

If I could have one wish for the Earth's environment, it would be to bring together the two tribes—to convene a grand powwow of ecologists and economists. I would pose them this simple question and not let them leave the room until they had answered it: How can innovation improve the environment?

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10...2612287156
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The world has tons of resources left. It's just they are strategically placed in regions not favorable to Westerners. Africa alone, for what is known, has enough resources alone to by estimates power/fuel the globe for 100 year and more. Trillions up trillions of goodies sitting under the ground. The only catch is that after the West actively Cockblock and hustled Africa for 100 years they have zero desires to share. Te West can easily run out of access because of this. Places like America which are so desperate they are relying on risky fracking, or environmentally yeah worthy and energy negative tar sand development will likely be Cockblocked out of Africa or face the same steep upcharges placed on then that they did in Africa for many decades. You gotta "pay to play" and the West spinning it's wheels on debt will find this very difficult to do.

This article like many paints the issues in a western light. It's not my fault that western agriculture because slaves to mono-cropping which directly Sykes away phosphorus reserves as the mono-crops needs nutrient help from the lack of soil turn over. These are all western fuck ups that slowly emerging areas with resources will likely not repeat. For resource hungry places such as India and China you surprisingly see a more efficient approach to fuel their resource needs. The economics and scale and scope fuck things up but for the most part they are channeling more trousers towards renewables for instance then we are in the west and this is simply out of a need too or face complete collapse. This urgency isn't present here in the west and we assume things will just fall in out favor even though the future systems are being slowly entrenched to Cockblock is out. The global south and East will be setting the tone and the price going forward. I am not sure if the west will have the means to pay able to "pay to play".
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If anyone hasn't checked it out, I highly recommend a book called "The Rational Optimist," as far as a brighter future outlook is concerned.

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Quote: (05-09-2014 08:55 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

If anyone hasn't checked it out, I highly recommend a book called "The Rational Optimist," as far as a brighter future outlook is concerned.

Agreed - the author of that book (Matt Ridley) wrote the article I quoted in the OP.
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Quote: (05-09-2014 08:28 AM)kosko Wrote:  

The world has tons of resources left. It's just they are strategically placed in regions not favorable to Westerners. Africa alone, for what is known, has enough resources alone to by estimates power/fuel the globe for 100 year and more. Trillions up trillions of goodies sitting under the ground. The only catch is that after the West actively Cockblock and hustled Africa for 100 years they have zero desires to share. Te West can easily run out of access because of this. Places like America which are so desperate they are relying on risky fracking, or environmentally yeah worthy and energy negative tar sand development will likely be Cockblocked out of Africa or face the same steep upcharges placed on then that they did in Africa for many decades. You gotta "pay to play" and the West spinning it's wheels on debt will find this very difficult to do.

This article like many paints the issues in a western light. It's not my fault that western agriculture because slaves to mono-cropping which directly Sykes away phosphorus reserves as the mono-crops needs nutrient help from the lack of soil turn over. These are all western fuck ups that slowly emerging areas with resources will likely not repeat. For resource hungry places such as India and China you surprisingly see a more efficient approach to fuel their resource needs. The economics and scale and scope fuck things up but for the most part they are channeling more trousers towards renewables for instance then we are in the west and this is simply out of a need too or face complete collapse. This urgency isn't present here in the west and we assume things will just fall in out favor even though the future systems are being slowly entrenched to Cockblock is out. The global south and East will be setting the tone and the price going forward. I am not sure if the west will have the means to pay able to "pay to play".

I get what you are saying but I was under the impression that North America was fairly abundant resource wise?

The thing is though that commodities are still pretty cheap so it makes sense to buy/steal/whatever them off others before using your own...?

Could be wrong though [Image: smile.gif]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Resource

^ Julian Simon was the first real critic of environmentalists.

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Perhaps the most controversial claim in the book is that natural resources are infinite. Simon argues not that there is an infinite physical amount of, say, copper, but for human purposes that amount should be treated as infinite because it is not bounded or limited in any economic sense, because:

known reserves are of uncertain amounts
new reserves may become available, either through discovery or via the development of new extraction techniques
recycling
more efficient utilization of existing reserves (e.g. "It takes much less copper now to pass a given message than a hundred years ago." [The Ultimate Resource 2, 1996, footnote, page 62])
development of economic equivalents, e.g. optic fibre in the case of copper for telecommunications

The ever-decreasing prices, in wage-adjusted terms, indicate decreasing scarcity, in that it takes less time for the average worker to earn the money required to purchase a set amount of some commodity suggest, Simon claims, an enduring trend of increased availability that will not cease in the foreseeable future, despite continued population growth.

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The optimist types may be right in their specific little arguments, but they are specious just as much as they are right.

The question is not, "Will we survive with a bigger population?" Man is hardy, and can survive on beans and rice living in thatched huts. It's highly implausible that a greater population would threaten our sheer survival.

The real question is: "Will we thrive and prosper with a bigger population?" I have to conclude, no, no we will not. A few examples that relate to me and probably you, and probably yours too:

Food: the cost of unprocessed foods like meat and dairy is going up decade by decade. As the world gets wealthier, meat consumption rises, and a day's worth of sustenance in meat takes a much bigger toll on the planet than a day's worth of grain or legumes.

Rent: In metropolitan cities, rent in desirable areas is high and getting higher every year. You could argue, and I would strongly agree, that this is due in part to misguided housing policies. Traffic also obviously isn't helped by a growing population.

Wages: Stagnant wages for workers, especially men: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/1...can-wages/ More population means more workers, while capital fails to keep pace. End result: lower wages.

Sure, economies of scale can make things cheaper. But we are long past the point in most places where the population is small enough so as to limit the division of labor. We're not so limited in population that surgeons have to moonlight as pediatricians. Diseconomies of scale are everywhere. If you live in a big city, the evidence is right there in front of you, that increased population density is generally not going to make your life better. Wikipedia has a good page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseconomies_of_scale
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I am a big fan of the free-market economics and have read a lot of books in this area.

As such - I always imagined I wouldn't be interested in the doom laden predictions of ecologists. Particularly since I am skeptic when it comes to Climate Change and since I am a fan of Julian Simons who made his reputation out of challenging (and disproving) the ecological doomsters.

But then I discovered the ecologist Garret Hardin - and his books are in the ten best books I have ever read.

I did a post explaining how much I enjoyed his books:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31446-...#pid617439

As such - I feel ecologists shouldn't be completely dismissed since I feel there is a lot of value in Hardin's work. And an important thing to note is that Charlie Munger (billionaire best friend and investment partner of Warren Buffett) considers Hardin to be a genius - and recommends his most famous book as one of the ten best books he has ever read.

It is hard to pigeonhole Garrett Hardin. I am not an expert in ecology - but I sense he pisses off a lot of ecologists as well. Since he is such a fiercely independently minded thinker.

Anyway - I am still studying his work - so can't go into too much detail about his ideas (and exactly how he juggles the competing claims of ecologists and economists).

So - for now - on behalf of myself and Charlie Munger(!) - I will say that Garrett Hardin is one ecologist who is worth studying further. Everything he writes is ingenious, clear and interesting.

Even if you are a free market economist such as myself and Munger. [I guess that is the only time you will see myself mentioned next to a legend like Charlier Munger!]
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Quote: (05-10-2014 12:44 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

The optimist types may be right in their specific little arguments, but they are specious just as much as they are right.

The question is not, "Will we survive with a bigger population?" Man is hardy, and can survive on beans and rice living in thatched huts. It's highly implausible that a greater population would threaten our sheer survival.

The real question is: "Will we thrive and prosper with a bigger population?" I have to conclude, no, no we will not. A few examples that relate to me and probably you, and probably yours too:

Food: the cost of unprocessed foods like meat and dairy is going up decade by decade. As the world gets wealthier, meat consumption rises, and a day's worth of sustenance in meat takes a much bigger toll on the planet than a day's worth of grain or legumes.

Rent: In metropolitan cities, rent in desirable areas is high and getting higher every year. You could argue, and I would strongly agree, that this is due in part to misguided housing policies. Traffic also obviously isn't helped by a growing population.

Wages: Stagnant wages for workers, especially men: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/1...can-wages/ More population means more workers, while capital fails to keep pace. End result: lower wages.

Sure, economies of scale can make things cheaper. But we are long past the point in most places where the population is small enough so as to limit the division of labor. We're not so limited in population that surgeons have to moonlight as pediatricians. Diseconomies of scale are everywhere. If you live in a big city, the evidence is right there in front of you, that increased population density is generally not going to make your life better. Wikipedia has a good page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseconomies_of_scale

In other words, the quality of the population is more important than the quantity.

You could in theory have ever increasing population, provided it was always of a high quality, full of smart new businessmen to provide lots of jobs, doctors to tend to the sick, teachers to pass the knowledge on to the next gen, virtuous politicians, etc. etc.

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I don't see a future of man kind without expansion. If man looses opportunity or ability to expand, he will cease to exist.

Sustainability ? Maybe. But Sustainability demands such strict control that it is impossible to execute. EVERY family would have to have 2 children, no more no less, so population would not either age or overpopulate. That's impossible.
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Quote: (05-11-2014 02:45 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

In other words, the quality of the population is more important than the quantity.

You could in theory have ever increasing population, provided it was always of a high quality, full of smart new businessmen to provide lots of jobs, doctors to tend to the sick, teachers to pass the knowledge on to the next gen, virtuous politicians, etc. etc.

I said nothing of the quality of the population. I said that the quality of life for most people in most places will go down if the population increases, even if the quality of the population remained the same. Especially given the laws on the books, about housing, zoning, liquor licenses, the inflation of the labor pool thanks to feminism and a hostile public education system, among other factors. Most if not all complaints about city life get worse, not better with increasing population density
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I ultimately understand their point, i.e. the notion of running out of resources have been proven wrong by the adaptation of technology and better techniques and this will hold for other future resources too. However, I'm not an expert in resources, but I don't think it's a feasible point to state, for example, "There is an infinite amount of gold in the earth." That just makes no sense.
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A poin that Garret Hardin makes is the power of compound interest.

It is all well and good economists being complacent about the future.

But we are only 200 years since the industrial revolution. And if growth keeps compounding at 2-3% a year, it is only later on that you start seeing the ridiculously powerful affects of compound interest.

Since this shit builds exponentially - a bit like the guy who requested he be paid by the emperor for his services by putting a grain of rice on the first square of a chest board.

Two grains of rice on the second.

Four grains of rice on the third.

Eight grains of rice on the fourth and so on...

By the time you get to the 64th (and final) square on the chessboard you end up with more grains or rice than there are on the entire planet.

[Image: chess.gif]

Check out my earlier posts on the power of compound growth:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-26172-...#pid520736 [and the post below that one]
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Quote: (05-11-2014 12:35 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-11-2014 02:45 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

In other words, the quality of the population is more important than the quantity.

You could in theory have ever increasing population, provided it was always of a high quality, full of smart new businessmen to provide lots of jobs, doctors to tend to the sick, teachers to pass the knowledge on to the next gen, virtuous politicians, etc. etc.

I said nothing of the quality of the population. I said that the quality of life for most people in most places will go down if the population increases, even if the quality of the population remained the same. Especially given the laws on the books, about housing, zoning, liquor licenses, the inflation of the labor pool thanks to feminism and a hostile public education system, among other factors. Most if not all complaints about city life get worse, not better with increasing population density

But in this case it's not increasing population which is the problem but bad laws.

Assuming the laws are corrected, and the quality of population remains high, there are no downsides to population growth.

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Of course population matters. People are competing for resources in ways that they didn't use to have to. I'm not just talking about the obvious things like how much oil or copper there is. There is currently a global race on to secure arable land and water supplies. Likewise, major fish stocks have plummeted in recent decades and fish farming is not making up the shortfall.

Anyway, I'd like to address urban settlements. Melbourne has a population density of 430 people/km^2. Taipei has a population density of 2,800 people/km^2.

Amongst other things, I like to go to parks occasionally. One of the appealling things about going to a park is having some space to yourself. If I went to a park in Taipei, I'd have to deal with 6.5 x as many people as I would in Melbourne. Screw that for a joke. Literally anywhere interesting worth going to that is within an hour or two (or more) from any major settlement is absolutely overrun on weekends or public holidays in Taiwan. Traffic is insane all the time here, even in areas that are supposedly remote. I used to surf at Toucheng/Waio, which is an hour or so from Taipei. Within a couple of years I saw surfing go from not being that popular to being kind of a fad with everyone making the day trip from Taipei and having a go. On the weekends in summer you were literally cheek by jowl with people either side. The same two hundred guys would compete for the same crappy waves (it's pretty flat in summer) within a stretch a couple hundred of metres long at the most. There were collisions all the time. It wasn't worth it in summer.

There are certain things where you need a critical mass of people to get them, be it through the public or private sectors (e.g. public transport, good cultural venues and international performers or exhibitors, a range of good eating options, etc.). So obviously, you're unlikely to get certain things if you live in a town of 30,000 people. Yet beyond a certain size and any settlement goes to crap.

In fact, I would say that much of Melbourne is now unlivable because it is too big a city. It is closing in on 4.3 million people, and I think that's just too many people for any city. In the case of Taipei (and Taiwan generally), everyone lives on top of one another, but in the case of Melbourne, everything is so spread out that it takes forever to get anywhere interesting (unless you're very wealthy and live close to the centre of the city).

I suspect that there's probably a sweet spot of between 1 million and 3 million people for a major city.
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The environmental agenda has been hijacked by global warming...I mean climate change proponents. I am a big fan of environmental protection, not least because I like to spend time in beautiful natural places, but right from the begging I didn't accept global warming as a legitimate environmental cause. It is pretty obvious that it is pushed because certain interests stand to gain. Bankers governments and oil companies. Bankers because they want a carbon exchange were they can siphon off billions into there own pockets over the years. Governments because as ridiculous as it is a tax on carbon meas more money for them. A whole new class of tax/money. Once carbon has been exhausted as a tax source they'll have to move on to something else. Maybe oxygen, who knows. Lastly existing oil companies benefit if they can increase the cost of bringing new supply onto the market. It protects their current positions.

It would be better if environmentalists focused on habitat protection, by encouraging the establishment of protected areas (such as National Parks) encompassing a diverse cross section of ecological zones and habitats. But there is little money in this, so "climate change" will continue to be pushed until the bankers get their exchange, the governments there tax revenue, and the oil companies their protection.
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