I can speak from personal experience when I say that there is nothing more efficient and effective in forcing red pill digestion than female delivered humiliation, especially when it comes in front of other people. I remember the feelings, and it is those memories that motivated me (and continue to motivate me) to move away from my old habits. I've seen what rock bottom looks and feels like, and I simply never want to go there again.
In that sense, I feel for this guy, but he needs to understand that there is no mercy in the sexual marketplace. Women hate weakness and will always punish it with displays similar to this when given a chance. They are engineered to test the strength of men, and they're ruthlessly efficient at it - if you come across as a doormat, they absolutely will walk all over you, wiping their feet and taking a few extra stomps just for good measure. If he wants to change that, he needs to change himself.
Quote: (05-09-2014 05:23 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:
He shouldn't be angry at the guy for macking on her, but at the girl for being a tremendous slut. The guy hasn't made any promises to him, the girl has. Same if the genders were reversed - never blame the impostor, blame the one who embraced the impostor with open arms.
Following that line of thought, it would be absolutely pointless for him to attack the guy. A girl who is not absolute trash won't let herself get swooped away like that, and neither will she test you by trying to incite you into fighting over her.
And following that line of thought, it would also be absolutely pointless for him to attack the girl. Sluts aren't worth such a heated reaction. This is the only valid answer:
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Walk way, vanish, and don't return her calls. Everything else is just not sensible.
This is all valid. I find disappearance to be quite an effective skill to develop. When you are always ready and willing to simply disappear when needed and can get to a point at which you can reliably do so anytime necessary, you're training yourself to decrease your outcome dependence and neediness. If you're a guy who has historically been very weak, supplicating, needy, and outcome dependent in your relations with women, training yourself to disappear following blatant signs of disrespect is a very good idea. It forces you to correct those weaknesses, insulates you from the kind of soul-crushing embarrassment this guy in the video must have felt (I've been there) and lets people know that you're not one to stand for disrespect. The man who simply leaves is more respectable than the man who stands there like a confused, broken puppy and takes the abuse. Had the man in this particular video been willing to simply walk way from this girl, he'd have been much better off.
That being said, all of the above can be augmented:
Quote: (05-09-2014 05:41 AM)weambulance Wrote:
My feeling is she had to know the guy she was with was a total doormat or she wouldn't have done it. If a girl is worried about a guy's reaction she's not going to risk catching a punch herself by being so blatantly disrespectful.
This is an important factor. This man got treated the way he did because this woman knew he was a pliable doormat. She understood that she could embarrass him openly in public and he would not leave. He also understood that he would not fight either. He posed no physical threat whatsoever - she had no fear of losing him or of him physically standing his ground and halting her flirtations.
When a woman understands that her failure to treat a given man with a certain degree of respect can result in a) his disappearance and/or b) physical confrontation, she's less likely to get out of line. Had she understood her man to be the type to physically stand his ground and potentially threaten the physical wellbeing of any man she tried to humiliate him with before subsequently dropping her from his life and disappearing in response to her disrespect, she'd have been far less openly welcoming of other invitations because a) she would have found the man she's with more attractive for his willingness to stand his ground, b) she would prefer not to cause any fights and c) she would have been very afraid to lose him. These are the fears that keep women respectful around their men.
As a man, you either develop the ability to inspire those fears in the women you are with or you get used to tolerating blatant disrespect on an increasingly regular basis. It is, now more than ever, an either/or proposition: there isn't much of a middle ground anymore.