[Mormon Nailer]

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35842-...#pid721486

[la_mode]

Sort of similar to the "courtesy of indifference" topic I started recently.

Bottom line, this guy doesn't get the courtesy of indifference from the status quo, while the others do.

It probably has something to do with it being more difficult to categorize him. They try to categorize him as gay, yet by his behavior around women, they know he probably isn't. He probably doesn't dress like a hipster either (this would make him easier to categorize). At the same time, he's not the most macho guy. For whatever reason, this really upsets people in most of America.

[General Mayhem]

The word hate is way overused. It has become an umbrella term for resentment, jealousy, envy, etc.

I get sick of people talking about all their "haters." People aren't going to hate you because you are talented or successful with women. They might be jealous, or envy you, but they don't hate you.

People resent Bieber because he bangs hot chicks, despite acting like an immature little asshole, but they don't hate him.

Hate should be reserved for referring to the scum of the earth, like the snakes who will fuck another dude's girl while he is off fighting a war.

[BortimusPrime]

Going back to the sneaky fucker strategy, that strategy has a history stretching back far before homo sapiens. Lots of animals employ a strategy by which small and weak males try to pass off as females to bypass territorial alpha males and breed. Cuttlefish do it quite a bit, presumably made easier when you have no bones and can change the color and texture of your skin at will.

[jariel]

(05-08-2014 01:57 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

Reminds me of this thread:

Game is for average to ugly guys

That's real talk.

[RouteBackwards]

(05-08-2014 12:18 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

The hate Justin Bieber gets in the other thread reminds me of a convo I had with my friends last weekend.

There are 3 guys in my extended social circles who are super successful with women. If one is at an event, I guarantee the hottest girls there will flock around him.

Yet out of the 3, one is very much hated by all of us, while the other two we would have a beer with.

The hated one works in TV & films, has fame (or rather, he can make a girl famous) and is very talented in the arts (I give credit where it's due). He's also good looking but rather feminine both in appearance and attitude. Most of us haters call him a faggot, twink or the likes, very similar to the kind of hate Bieber gets.

My contribution to the debate among my friends was that he represents the sneaky fucker archetype - the guy who would stay behind the hunts / wars pretending to be injured just so he could fuck our women while we men were away. You can't count him as a brother in arms, and even if you try to be good friends, he will not have your back, ever. We don't respect him at all, and that's why we hate him so much when he's successful with women. In the pre-modern world, one of us would've snapped his twiggy neck when he attempted his sneaky fucking strategy the first few times. The safety of our modern society enables guys like him.

The other 2 popular guys bang just as many hot girls, one attracts even more & hotter girls than this guy does, yet I've never heard of anyone hating them for it. They generally have the respect of men.

It depends.

There are men who are genuine with their approach to women, and friends in general, and I find these men are usually respected for their successes with women and life in general.

Then there are men who seem very superficial in attempts to court women and maintain friendships, and even if they have large successes with women, people seem to hate them because they do not seem genuine and are what my friends would call a "sell out."

Superficial men usually get hated on, and genuine men get respect from other men - even if men are jealous of these men's game successes; this is what my experience has shown me anyways.