[Foolsgo1d]

So you're sick of over-compensating to get laid in Australia and you want a new hunting ground?

Dont bring your Australian LAD game to London or NYC, you will get blown out and labelled a loud mouthed Aussie.

Its similar to the British invasion of Poland and Czech for their lads holidays. A good place is ruined when too many of the mouth breathers invade.

If you want easy access to pussy, NYC, London will do. If you have yellow fever plenty of Australians have moved to the FEA countries but as I said, your countrymen have set the foundations and whether you like it or not you will be lumped in with them.

I Dont come across many Australians in the UK, perhaps play that to your advantage?

[tonipepperoni]

(05-01-2014 03:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 10:44 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

I don't know what people consider a 5.5.

But how many NEW girls in Australia do you bang per month that are above this quality:


or this:

Complete strawman argument, the top girl and maybe the bottom too are 8's. No one's ever said regularly banging 8's and 9's was easy here, or anywhere else really. This is the scale most people on RVF would use.

Unless you don't have good game or have some serious height or looks deficiency it's not hard to bang 6's and 7's IF you're putting in enough approaches. I don't think I'm anything special compared to the guys in game community here, I'm also quite young, non-white and have shit logistics. I got 2 new bangs a blowjob from new girls in that range in April, and hopefully will bang another slut on a date I have lined up for tomorrow night. This is Australia, girls here are slutty as fuck, what planet are you guys on?? You should meet some of the veteran guys I know in the community here, I think your brain would explode.

(04-30-2014 10:49 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

BTW be specific on what Asian country you lived in. Malaysia and Singapore are miles apart to Thailand and Philippines.

China, and another small country which sucks for game I won't mention for privacy reasons. Singapore is a nice city but I can't comment on it for game. Never been to Malaysia, I know it's a Muslim country but I've met a number of Malaysian international students and they've all been pretty liberal, got my Malaysian flag in Oz on a ONS too.

I've been to Singapore 8 times, Malaysia 4 times. They're both pathetic game destinations. The girls possess some of the worst genetics in all of s.e. asia.
China is a different bag of chips, especially if you're not paying high dollar to go into high end places. I'd assume the place has shitty asian genetics. I've never been though.

I've been to Taipei -- it's pretty good. Thailand, Indonesia, Cambodia,

So far you simply do not have enough travel experience to justify any contextual understanding of how Australia is compared to other countries.

I'm not conflating anything to make a strawman.

This is not about a single exclusionary month. According to your RVF scale, how many new notches on the 7 to 8 scale do you get a month over an extensive period of time?

[tonipepperoni]

(05-01-2014 09:25 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

So you're sick of over-compensating to get laid in Australia and you want a new hunting ground?

Dont bring your Australian LAD game to London or NYC, you will get blown out and labelled a loud mouthed Aussie.

Its similar to the British invasion of Poland and Czech for their lads holidays. A good place is ruined when too many of the mouth breathers invade.

If you want easy access to pussy, NYC, London will do. If you have yellow fever plenty of Australians have moved to the FEA countries but as I said, your countrymen have set the foundations and whether you like it or not you will be lumped in with them.

I Dont come across many Australians in the UK, perhaps play that to your advantage?

Quote:

Just some background info: I've lived in about 7 different countries ( lived i.e. more than 3 months). I'm currently living in a Slavic country.
I'm an Australian ex-pat.

I personally don't see myself living outside Central/Eastern or continental europe as my Income source is going good.

To be honest, not really planning on living on an anglo country any time soon, just curious about which anglo-shitholes have the highest pua per capita following.

[Deluge]

(05-01-2014 09:38 AM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 03:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 10:44 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

I don't know what people consider a 5.5.

But how many NEW girls in Australia do you bang per month that are above this quality:


or this:

Complete strawman argument, the top girl and maybe the bottom too are 8's. No one's ever said regularly banging 8's and 9's was easy here, or anywhere else really. This is the scale most people on RVF would use.

Unless you don't have good game or have some serious height or looks deficiency it's not hard to bang 6's and 7's IF you're putting in enough approaches. I don't think I'm anything special compared to the guys in game community here, I'm also quite young, non-white and have shit logistics. I got 2 new bangs a blowjob from new girls in that range in April, and hopefully will bang another slut on a date I have lined up for tomorrow night. This is Australia, girls here are slutty as fuck, what planet are you guys on?? You should meet some of the veteran guys I know in the community here, I think your brain would explode.

(04-30-2014 10:49 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

BTW be specific on what Asian country you lived in. Malaysia and Singapore are miles apart to Thailand and Philippines.

China, and another small country which sucks for game I won't mention for privacy reasons. Singapore is a nice city but I can't comment on it for game. Never been to Malaysia, I know it's a Muslim country but I've met a number of Malaysian international students and they've all been pretty liberal, got my Malaysian flag in Oz on a ONS too.

I've been to Singapore 8 times, Malaysia 4 times. They're both pathetic game destinations. The girls possess some of the worst genetics in all of s.e. asia.
China is a different bag of chips, especially if you're not paying high dollar to go into high end places. I'd assume the place has shitty asian genetics. I've never been though.

I've been to Taipei -- it's pretty good. Thailand, Indonesia, Cambodia,

So far you simply do not have enough travel experience to justify any contextual understanding of how Australia is compared to other countries.

I'm not conflating anything to make a strawman.

This is not about a single exclusionary month. According to your RVF scale, how many new notches on the 7 to 8 scale do you get a month over an extensive period of time?

You're still using a strawman, I was never talking about how good or bad Australia is compared to other countries in the first place. You're trying to have a debate with someone who isn't arguing with what you're saying. There's a lot of fatties here, the girls are masculine and the guys are aggressive and better looking than the girls. I've met enough guys who've traveled a lot to know Australia is a bad place to game, (for the record a few British/American forum members have told me it's more or less the same here as it is back home). All I'm saying is it's not hard to regularly bang cute Aussie sluts if you do your approaches, I find it hard to believe anybody could disagree with that unless they're fat, ugly, quite short or have no game, after all this is Australia not Saudi Arabia... Regularly banging 8+ top shelf pussy is a different ball game and I haven't reached that level, yet, but there's still other, more senior guys, including guys from this forum who are. And your hunch is right, Chinese girls aren't very attractive, imo the least attractive Asian ethnicity. There's very few fatties in China but the quality there is worse than Australian born Chinese and the Chinese international students for sure.

[tonipepperoni]

(05-01-2014 10:14 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 09:38 AM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 03:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 10:44 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

I don't know what people consider a 5.5.

But how many NEW girls in Australia do you bang per month that are above this quality:


or this:

Complete strawman argument, the top girl and maybe the bottom too are 8's. No one's ever said regularly banging 8's and 9's was easy here, or anywhere else really. This is the scale most people on RVF would use.

Unless you don't have good game or have some serious height or looks deficiency it's not hard to bang 6's and 7's IF you're putting in enough approaches. I don't think I'm anything special compared to the guys in game community here, I'm also quite young, non-white and have shit logistics. I got 2 new bangs a blowjob from new girls in that range in April, and hopefully will bang another slut on a date I have lined up for tomorrow night. This is Australia, girls here are slutty as fuck, what planet are you guys on?? You should meet some of the veteran guys I know in the community here, I think your brain would explode.

(04-30-2014 10:49 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

BTW be specific on what Asian country you lived in. Malaysia and Singapore are miles apart to Thailand and Philippines.

China, and another small country which sucks for game I won't mention for privacy reasons. Singapore is a nice city but I can't comment on it for game. Never been to Malaysia, I know it's a Muslim country but I've met a number of Malaysian international students and they've all been pretty liberal, got my Malaysian flag in Oz on a ONS too.

I've been to Singapore 8 times, Malaysia 4 times. They're both pathetic game destinations. The girls possess some of the worst genetics in all of s.e. asia.
China is a different bag of chips, especially if you're not paying high dollar to go into high end places. I'd assume the place has shitty asian genetics. I've never been though.

I've been to Taipei -- it's pretty good. Thailand, Indonesia, Cambodia,

So far you simply do not have enough travel experience to justify any contextual understanding of how Australia is compared to other countries.

I'm not conflating anything to make a strawman.

This is not about a single exclusionary month. According to your RVF scale, how many new notches on the 7 to 8 scale do you get a month over an extensive period of time?

You're still using a strawman, I was never talking about how good or bad Australia is compared to other countries in the first place. You're trying to have a debate with someone who isn't arguing with what you're saying. There's a lot of fatties here, the girls are masculine and the guys are aggressive and better looking than the girls. I've met enough guys who've traveled a lot to know Australia is a bad place to game, (for the record a few British/American forum members have told me it's more or less the same here as it is back home). All I'm saying is it's not hard to regularly bang cute Aussie sluts if you do your approaches, I find it hard to believe anybody could disagree with that unless they're fat, ugly, quite short or have no game, after all this is Australia not Saudi Arabia... Regularly banging 8+ top shelf pussy is a different ball game and I haven't reached that level, yet, but there's still other, more senior guys, including guys from this forum who are. And your hunch is right, Chinese girls aren't very attractive, imo the least attractive Asian ethnicity. There's very few fatties in China but the quality there is worse than Australian born Chinese and the Chinese international students for sure.

No one is using strawmans. How can you contextualise difficulty, quality, 'game' when you've barely been outside the world you've been indoctrinated to believe is 'true', right, standard. It's typical Plato's allegory of the cave bullshit.

For example, many men in Australia are perfectly happy with sleeping with 3 women a year that fit the '7' category on your RVF chart. They think that even after bloating thousands annually on supplements, clothing, nightlife expenses (which can typically run 100 dollars a night), sometimes even game seminars, that bedding 3 x 7s a year is sufficient for their purposes. This is a reality that I reject.

But many feel that this is perfectly fine for them.

Even to bed 4x8s a year is fairly difficult in Australia. The rapport levels required -- I mean even if you're the best guy she's encountered that month, the fact that she's being validated to the brim will make her more complacent and only expect the romantic fantasy to be beyond what a true player can deliver.

Can you get pussy in Australia? Sure. Can you be a player? No, unless you fit in the description that Biologist mentions. And he is right for the most part. One can only consistently on a monthly basis, bed 5.5s.

Just because some decent looking insular girl who studies a bachelor of science in the university of melbourne, gave you a handy after you successfully 'day gamed', doesn't mean Australia is a good and fruitful place for a man to learn game. It's child's play.

Even in a city like London it's possible to get a new 7.5 on a monthly basis, depending on your pay grade, ability to get on concierge lists, connections etc.


I'm only asking you about the math and stat point of view because it's the only way you can contextualise the 'difference'. Otherwise you're just saying 'good' and 'bad' without a reference.

[rudebwoy]

Posts like these hurt my head. A newbie comes here asking ridiculous questions and ultimately gets banned.
If your happy in Central Europe and Eastern Europe, then stay there and no need to reflect on the past.
If you think Australia is tough, try and come to DC or Toronto. Friends of mine raved about Australia and the women, again to each is own.
I would say there are more PUA dudes in the two cities I mentioned, but I don't see myself as a PUA person. I see myself as a man trying to maximize my situation in life.

[RXB]

Maybe you can use your lame r/theredpill theories in your next anime dating game. Then you can blog about it on your free .wordpress site and maybe link it as your 19th post here.

Abundance mentality is for winners, not women. According to your logic England should have surrendered to Spain at one point because they had bigger ships and were too much of a threat. Winners can walk into a place with a positive mindset and use their skills to turn any situation into an advantage.

Yes, you can make excuses "There are too many men!" "They have feminazis!" But at the end of the day its all on you.

Secondly, I'm sure that you're infinity more alpha than me and my puny little beta mind must have missed it, but where did I say anything about "Good girls." The last girl I banged did naked photo shoots. Also, I live in a area where there are more men than women and I met her at a sausage sizzle.

So yeah, you can make excuses like an amateur (maybe you'll fall for one of those "never get rejected" PUA eBooks too), or you can face the world like a man. There's going to be competition and threats everywhere, you might as well face them head on.

(04-30-2014 11:24 AM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 03:18 AM)RXB Wrote:  

I don't get why you would cancel your trip off of an internet statistic. By that logic you should move to Wichita because there are less RFV members there and thus it most be super easy to bang all kinds of hot girls.

Additionally, i wouldn't count number of guys, or number of manosphere dudes as being a bad thing. There are thousands of dorks who stay in on the weekends or never approach girls. I'll bet that game sites, and forums, have a lot of readers who never actually do an approach. It's like those bodybuilding sites where guys will debate proteins all day, but only hit the gym once a week.

If you want to go to NYC go to NYC. Just because there are a lot of guys there doesn't mean that you can't get laid or won't have a good time. No matter where you go in the world there are always going to be other men to compete with.

You're glossing over the basic point. I'm not suggesting anyone to move over to second or third tier shitholes because they don't really hit the radar.

You're also arguing in terms of exceptions instead of the general rule, it's 'girl logic' "Not all girls are like that, there are good girls in every city, you just have to look!". This is not how men think, we analyse, we classify, we figure out a pattern in the chaos.

I think your basic argument is this: "You shouldn't waste time looking into whether a city is filled with males, you should go there anyway and compete because most men don't approach, there are tonnes of 'good girls' in these cities, you just need to go to the right places and approach".

I think Roosh gets such logic on a daily basis. What you don't understand is:
- Many people have to make life changing decisions (moving to a city permanently) on some kind of hunch: usually consisting of anecdotal evidence, 1 week trips etc. Any extra information would be good.
- Sausage sizzles usually result in an erosion of the female. Go to any sausage fest and you'll see a higher percentage of tatted up skrillex-cut bitches. Male thirst not only ruins your chances on any given night, it ruins the prize.

[tonipepperoni]

If I'm banned here, then so be it. I've made a very simple request.

Any idiot in Eastern Europe should have realised by now that what makes women 'feminine' is not necessarily a cultural decline with western culture infecting a part of the world with it's 'logic' as many red pill theory experts claim, but rather how much of a sausagefest a certain place is. Its why certain oil rich destinations in EE are filled with tatted up slags.

Sausgefests make or break a destination. Only irrelevant idiots who've been indoctrinated with some RSD speech about abundance with zero or no travel experience is completely oblivious to the truth.

The competition is never the issue. Unlike many of the people on the forum, I enjoy places in Scandinavia which have otherwise been classified as too 'feminazi' or filled with 'beautifl men'.

BTW, I refute your logic about DC/Toronto being more difficult than Australia. As a tourist, Australia is an incomparable experience to how it is to be a permanent resident.


Since you believe in game as thought its a religion: just ask Alexander (A Queenslander) from RSD which city is more difficult.

Boom.

[Deluge]

No point arguing with tonipepperoni, he has no game.

To clarify for people not familiar with Australia: I've met Alex a couple times and was actually in the audience for the full 3 hour free tour where that video comes from (for the record, I've never bought any RSD products or bootcamps etc). I think he's the only person from Brisbane I've ever met to say Melbourne is worse than Brisbane for women... Alex's issue is he revealed some really awful venue selection, we actually laughed at him for it a few times. If you're going to mainstream or scummy clubs here instead of high tier or indie/hipster ones you're doing something wrong. He did praise Melbourne's daygame and smaller venues though. Alex is a typical aussie lad, his personality isn't really suited to Melbourne in the first place, but the next time he's here he really needs to take a page out of Tyler and Julien's L.A game and start going to better venues.

[tonipepperoni]

Didn't people who bag Roosh for claiming Toronto to be the worst place in all of north america claim the exact same thing?

inb4 can't get laid so you went to another country
inb4 there are nice girls in other clubs, you chose the wrong places

The fact that an anglo-saxon native australian who works as a professional pick-up coach with a 100+ notch count, who's game has been tried in multiple cities and multiple countries, who's entire job it is to figure out the correct venues, who's philosophy is to be positive, 'in state', and probably optimistic to ensure his customers think they have a chance with women.... comes out and tells you that it's a shit-hole, your only conclusion is that he chose the wrong places and didn't have the personality for it.

Right.

My point is you haven't been able to properly contextualise your result or the girls you've been with because for the most part you're in a bubble. Results, quality, quantity and personal happiness are all relative concepts.

[Que enspastic]

Just move then. Stop complaining.

I grew up in Melbourne, now I live in London.

There is no need to write a multi page junk thread.