Quote: (04-09-2014 05:21 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2014 01:10 PM)Troll King Wrote:
A woman who has had sex before marriage is just a slut and can't be a good mother!" [Troll King: So fucking true. Glad these Tunisian men have their shit together]
You realize there is a fine line between having sex outside marriage and being a slut? On manosphere we criticize promiscuous slutty whorish cuntish bitchy behaviour of women, that doesn't mean women should not be allowed to fuck or date or even touch or uncover their heads (yes, these are what Islam mandate) just because a prophet came up with a sick idea 1400 years ago that anything that might tempt a man by any means must be forbidden and punished by death. There is also a fine line between the community beliefs in the manosphere that are tilted towards the traditional conservativeness and those islamic radicals that execute rape victim women because they lost their 'honor'.
Anyway, calling Tunusian women sluts is a bit too extreme. Trust me they suffer enough in their oppressing Islamic society.
Yes, I know there is a difference between having sex outside of marriage and being a slut. Personally, I don't even really consider a woman a slut if she has a high N. Or at least I don't think she is a slut in a bad way. I actually kinda like sluts. They are fun and easy, assuming they are hot. What I disdain, however, are nasty sluts or slags. I don't really care if a woman hooks up with a different guy every month from the time she is 16 onward. I wouldn't marry her cause I would consider her a slut.
And well,
MARRIAGE IS RETIREMENT FOR WOMEN!!!111!!!
I will never get married. That aside. I do like sluts. What I consider a slag or a bad type of slut, are the types of women who do nasty and medically dangerous and devious shit. Like one girl I knew. I never tapped it but after I found out about her sluttery I lost all interest.
See, this one girl, who on the surface came across as a goody two-shoes pretty chick in HS, like to hook up with multiple guys in a row bareback in the same night. She would tell my gf at the time about how she blew the bouncer and then went back to her date and made out with the date while still having the bouncers cum in her mouth.
That is fucking disgusting. Maybe some guys get off on being snowballed unknowingly through some cuckold fetish or something but that is the type of behavior that I consider slutty(again in the bad and not good way).
Anyways. I do think that women need to CHOOSE which side they want to be on. I think most western men don't care about numbers to a large degree when considering marriage potential, but they really should. Even myself, I would have no problem letting a girl into my life on a LTR level if she had a modest N and it wasn't sluttery(good or bad) but instead just a series of serial monogamous relationships. Still doesn't look good for the future long term investment, but then again there is always another younger, tighter, and 50 pounds lighter model around the corner. Oh, and MARRIAGE IS RETIREMENT FOR WOMEN! Never Marry.
As far as the rest goes. I don't really know what you're talking about. Tunisia isn't Afghanistan, it is one of the most progressive Islamic countries behind Turkey. Hell, they aren't even Saudi Arabia and I know from experience that most of the shit the west talks about in relation to places like Saudi Arabia is largely bullshit and based on western imperialism. The same is even more true in most other Arab countries.
I know, because I lived in the middle east during middle and high school. Hell, native Arab women are one of the biggest reasons I am the way I am. As a young'in I chalked up my observations to culture shock and religious differences. Then I went and studied over there in college and I saw something amazing. I could compare and contrast all the upper class, many from Harvard and Yale and with really rich parents, girls from America with the upper class Arab women, who even in Saudi Arabia make up a larger percentage of college admissions, and I saw that Arab women are not that different than Americunts. Except in one area.
They had this aura about them that was intoxicating. I was dating this hot 17 yr old econ and poly sci student who spoke 3 languages while also dating a Olympic gymnast(she had a card signed from the president and cultural minister saying that she didn't have a hymen due to gymnastics but was a virgin..lololol) and at the same time was dating a hostess at a casino. All of them just radiated this thing that I could describe or even define but I saw lacking in western women. It was great being around these intelligent and
genuinely FEMININE women. Then I came back to America and looked around at the sorostitutes hanging around me and my room mates parties and apts and became somewhat sickened by them. Don't get me wrong. I still hit em, but marry? NOPE and NOPE!
So, in conclusion. NO hard feelings bro. But get out and experience the world for yourself instead of letting progressive and socon feminists color your world view. I am not saying that it is perfect in the middle east, lol. It is probably one of the hardest places to hook up in unless you have Saudi level money but if you are looking for a wife one of the more secular areas wouldn't be bad.
As far as all the other stuff your going on about in Islam. Well, you do realize there are a lot of them right? The ones that commit honor killings and what not are in the same vein as the Christians who boycott funerals due to gay marriage. Hell, most of the middle east is incredibly Americanized. All the men have the same 5 types of hair cuts and they are all taken from pics of Elvis. Lol. Not even joking.
Before I sign off. Here's another thing to ponder. I have dated and fucked women who wear the hijab. Most do it for one of several reasons. It is a way to subtly flirt with men. In the west women unbutton a few buttons on their blouse and press their shoulders together and lean in so the man they are interested in gets a shot of cleavage. Over there in their culture hair is seen as one of the most sexually attractive feminine features. The same is true of here in America, just look at shampoo and conditioner commercials and realize all the models have long hair and wave it around to show off. Anyways, what I found out is that the girls who veil will slowly start messing with their hijab until a sizable amount of their hair line is showing. Then they will get a little blushy and giggly and point out how their hijab is falling off and apologize for having to fix it. Then they unwrap their hair and fling it about and then quickly redo their hijab. It is a social way of showing off without having to show skin.
Another reason they veil. Many are somewhat poor and their live in a desert region. By just wrapping their hair up they don't have to spend as much money on hair product. Another reason, to be honest is to say fuck you to America and western culture. In the 90s 80%+ of the women I saw didn't veil. After 9/11 when I went back in the mid 00's It was about 60%. Many of them did it as a way of showing solidarity to their culture. Anyways, that is about all the time I have for that now. If you want to talk about Arab and Muslim culture we can, but whatever.
Women these days think they can shop for a man like they shop for a purse or a pair of shoes. Sorry ladies. It doesn't work that way.
Women are like sandwiches. All men love sandwiches. That's a given. But sandwiches are only good when they're fresh. Nobody wants a day old sandwich. The bread is all soggy and the meat is spoiled.
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], a sociologist, such male attitudes reflect the "hypocrisy" of Tunisian society, which he said refuses to recognise the change in behaviour of a large section of the population.
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