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What is a recovering beta to do?
#1

What is a recovering beta to do?

Not to bitch and complain about hypergamy and solipsism, because I don't know shit about that.

The concepts make sense and I understand them. I can even remember situations within my own life that are great examples of each. I see them today in the women I work with at the pub, at the gym and when I am meeting with support-work clients and their families, hell, even in my family. However even if I can find examples of these in my life, I am no expert. But most men (should) have some idea of those (hypergamy, solipsism) and other 'red pill truths' based on their failures and successes with people and women. Like me, perhaps they simply didn't know how to describe or articulate these behaviours we would encounter with women.

A lot of women want to fuck hot guys and get an orbiter to pay for their shit, so what. No matter how intriguingly written (very few blogs do) about, this is not new information.

If you work out and look good, girls will want to fuck you, this is not new information.

But it did take one too many oneitises, one too many girls flaking and one too many fap-filled nights to finally get myself to realize how easy it is to actually improve yourself.

The central message I experience is and received from good 'sphere blogs was, “Work out, eat well, and do other shit than pick up women. Sure enough your confidence (and testosterone) will increase and the vibe that will emit off of you through your frame will be that of a dominant and sexy man.” Throw a little bit of game in there and you'll be better with women than ninety five percent of your friends.

THIS is what I, and probably most of the men out there reading red pill and game blogs, should have done in are teens and early twenties.

Jocks and meat heads got/get girls not because of some secret game knowledge they know but because women love hot ass too. The guys who have been working out since high school have been in on it for YEARS while I was playing vids and jerking off to classic spank-bank material.

It doesn't matter how much game you know, if a big muscle hunk walks by you and a girl while your throwing up your best homemade neg at her, shes going to quickly look at him, eye fuck the shit out of him and hope to god you stop talking to her so that 'beef-steaks' can come and talk to her.

If a young man was NOT exposed to pua, insane-game tactics, red pill/blue pill and all he did was develop basic people skills, have some solid buddies, work out, eat well, find a hobby etc., he would still have much success in his life, especially with women. He would learn these things through trial and error ie. Failure. You know these guys. They are your older guy friends, your older brothers and his friends, uncles, your dads, grandfathers, you know.

They were doing 'red pill' shit before I was even making the race to the 'Slot C Egg' with the millions of my (fallen) sperm-brethren. Maybe they were the lucky ones....nah.

I read an article today written by Roosh V called, “The Manosphere Is Lost” - Published August 12, 2013. I was directed there from some other articles that had been written by popular 'sphere bloggers that were 'quitting' the manoshpere or at least not writing about or affiliating themselves with it any more.

What stuck with me was something Roosh wrote, “manospherebots.....their flocking to a community not for their own betterment but to rationalize their failures.”

I am guilty of this.

What started as a journey to self-discovery and self-development by reading and applying knowledge I have learned from game and red pills (working out, eating well, getting a business and career going, etc.), I got caught up in reading to much shit about feminism and the decline of western ciliviza....zzzzz.

I want to use the Manosphere for self-improvement only.

Here is what I have been doing and what I also recommend to a recovering beta (like myself):

Zero to small interaction with social media until - health, fitness and career are at a good pace.
Careful not to follow too may blogs.
Read a book.
Go outside.
Read a book.
Disagree with people.
Laugh, but not too much.
Read a book.
Touch people.
Do not look down.

Five months ago I was lucky enough to stumble upon the archives of Roissy, Roosh, ROK, Rollo, D&P, NexxtLevelUp, B&D, and a few more. I have a feeling I have came into the manosphere during a time of reconstruction, no, it seems more like a take over. But I haven't been there since the beginning so maybe it was expected. I am not sure where the 'shpere is headed.

Whether there is a politically-correct, safe and risk-free campaign that is sideswiping its way into the manosphere to pop it or just a natural evolution of social-movements or a shift towards something more true, you need not worry in your corner of the world. Because as long as you lift weights, eat good food, smoke good weed, drink good beer, have good friends, it won't matter if the 'shpere gets popped. -dcl
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#2

What is a recovering beta to do?

Like everything in life, ignore the drama, take the knowledge.

"A stripper last night brought up "Rich Dad Poor Dad" when I mentioned, "Think and Grow Rich""
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#3

What is a recovering beta to do?

Quote: (04-15-2014 12:08 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Like everything in life, ignore the drama, take the knowledge.

Wonderful way of looking at it.

I will remember that one, thanks.
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#4

What is a recovering beta to do?

heartiste has written how game won't give every man the ability to pull 10s, but give a man a 1-2 point bump in smv and it'll change his world...it did mine anyway

Good post btw

“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.”
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#5

What is a recovering beta to do?

Quote: (04-14-2014 10:56 PM)DCL Wrote:  

Like me, perhaps they simply didn't know how to describe or articulate these behaviours we would encounter with women.

It doesn't matter how much game you know, if a big muscle hunk walks by you and a girl while your throwing up your best homemade neg at her, shes going to quickly look at him, eye fuck the shit out of him and hope to god you stop talking to her so that 'beef-steaks' can come and talk to her.

What stuck with me was something Roosh wrote, “manospherebots.....their flocking to a community not for their own betterment but to rationalize their failures.”

Well, this is the old "do you really need game" debate. There's other threads on it. For my part, I've known guys who could pull 1 or 2 points above their number because of their personality. I've known that game was real for a long time, because I've seen it firsthand. So in your example, that might be true in a club, but I've also personally seen a woman ditch a guy only to come back to him because he had a personality and the other guy was a meathead. I'd just always written it off as nature but the truth is, you can become good with women. If you just work out hard, you might generate female interest, but just go on bodybuilding.com and look at the forums where guys are out asking basic game questions. Even bodybuilders eventually see that they need game to do better than 5's.

Roosh is right on, you should not use any of this as an excuse. Red pill just means that you see things, specifically women, for who they are, without any of the fairytale bullshit. It's fun to sit around the watercooler and shoot the shit, but there's a huge risk of becoming a keyboard jockey.

In fact, I feel that right now about myself, every time I come on here and write something, I think that I should be out there doing it, not typing about it.

In fact, that sounds like a great idea, and I'm going to get on it immediately.
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#6

What is a recovering beta to do?

You're a game denialist.

It's okay, it gets better.

WIA
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#7

What is a recovering beta to do?

Quote: (04-15-2014 02:13 PM)heavy Wrote:  

heartiste has written how game won't give every man the ability to pull 10s, but give a man a 1-2 point bump in smv and it'll change his world...it did mine anyway

Good post btw

agreed
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