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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

Alot of my buddies come to me for advice. I was talking to a buddy the other day who's looking for jobs. It brought up an interesting point. If you went to school for accounting obviously you go into accounting. Granted there's diff types of accounting but your going to be an accountant doing books or working with numbers or auditing.

Someone like myself or others who have degrees in things like communications which really isn't geared towards anything. You can really sell yourself into any business job but hwo does one even know about all the jobs out there?

Granted there's some jobs which will be the same at every company. An account manager manages accounts and is the liason between clients and the company. Analytics does analytics on whatever the industry is.

Just for example, I have a buddy who rents out rail cars to transport chemicals, grains, all types of stuff across the country. He also repairs them, handles border crossings, etc. He really seems to like his job, it's a good job. He got into it because his dad worked at the company.

I think most people probably get in somewhere because of connections or know somebody. To someone starting out fresh out of college with a clean slate and a vague degree how to even know what to look for?

I doubt anybody comes out of college saying I want to rent and manage container cars for trains. Having no reason to look into the industry I never even thought about the fact people who transport on trains need to get the cars somewhere, someone needs to give them a rate and manage it for them, someone needs to clean the cars after use.

I guess I'm always just kind of surprsied when I hear people with some jobs and like man how did you ever think I wanna get into that or even know that job existed. I guess most of us either have a connection through family, friends or colleages or just browse job boards, career builder, etc. but when your trying to think what are my strengths, what would I be good at, what would I enjoy doing or be passionate about. I wish in high school and college there was more exposure to diff careers, jobs, etc. Granted there are internships but most people who do one do maybe one in college not a ton of experience of trying out jobs and seeing whats out there.

I guess I should begin. I probbaly would have been better suited to the trades or enjoyed it more. I also always thought teaching would be a good fit for me. I wound up going into business basically because you always hear people say teachers make crap even though I have two cousins making like 70k and 100k just a few years in. Granted we live in a good school district. I basically wanted to make money so followed my dadds footsteps and went into business. Not really realizing only sales guys really make big money, otherwise most come out of college making like 30k or 35k for an entry level job. My dad worked in tv and web analytics so I went into the same thing, as did my sister. I never really explored anything else, just kidn of went to something I was familiar with, knew someone doing and knew a little about.

I sort of wish I would have went into teaching. I had jobs teaching during college sorta enjoyed it, more laid back atmosphere than business, plus I like having side hustles, worklife balance, freetime. Teacher you out of work early, plenty of time off during the year as well as summers, could easily have a second business on the side and plenty of time to travel and do fun stuff. It's a hard thing to get back into. It's not like other things where you can take night classes while your working. Teaching no way around student teaching which is 6 months, technically not supposed to have another job, and have to pay the school to monitor your student teaching. I can't afford nor do I want to be out fo work for 6 months while paying for school.
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

"I think..

I doubt..

I guess..

I guess..

I sort of wish."



This one is lacking:
I will start
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

If you haven't yet I recommend reading The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ Demarco at least 2 times.

Pay no attention to the title its intentionally 1 dimensional but the content is really good.
My problem was different but the logic is the same and I did months ( a little everyday) of research that lead me to understand many careers and the good money in the "oil business" which lead to:

[Rooshv>Oilsands thread>Rec.Books thread>MjFastlane>road/career that I am aspiring to]



Effect of the months of research is that I make a nice hustle as basically a back alley career encyclopaedia.
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

Quote: (04-02-2014 12:54 PM)pants Wrote:  

"I think..

I doubt..

I guess..

I guess..

I sort of wish."



This one is lacking:
I will start

Yea he definitely should read MJ's book and also 48 laws of power
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

Quote: (04-02-2014 01:00 PM)killongy Wrote:  

a back alley career encyclopaedia.

What does that mean? I too have done a lot of research on various careers. I sometimes went very specific. So it would be nice to be able to use that information.

For example, I was interested in finding out more about analytical instrumentation sales. I talked to a previous supervisor and he said he has a bunch of analytical instrumentation sales people who contacted him. He gave me their contact info and said I could mention his name. I made a long list of questions, like close to 10. I emailed them all and dropped his name and asked if I could ask them some questions. The ones that said yes, I just sent them the list of questions.

I did the same thing for other specific positions, by finding people through linkedin or through other websites.
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

Quote: (04-02-2014 11:18 AM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

I sort of wish I would have went into teaching. I had jobs teaching during college sorta enjoyed it, more laid back atmosphere than business, plus I like having side hustles, worklife balance, freetime. Teacher you out of work early, plenty of time off during the year as well as summers, could easily have a second business on the side and plenty of time to travel and do fun stuff. It's a hard thing to get back into. It's not like other things where you can take night classes while your working. Teaching no way around student teaching which is 6 months, technically not supposed to have another job, and have to pay the school to monitor your student teaching. I can't afford nor do I want to be out fo work for 6 months while paying for school.

Some teachers I know have had massive real estate things going on, they go to school to get additional funding so they can buy another house that much quicker.

It is not, however, an easy job. One time for some extra cash and to get an opportunity at another school, I said I'd teach over spring break. What I signed up for was teaching about 10 middle schoolers how to make a website, however, when I showed up I got stuck with 45 fucking 3rd-5th graders and found out I'd be teaching gym for four hours a day. I was a lot more prepared than many teachers would be, but even then it was hell of earth (that's a lot of students to be responsible for, in a school you've never been at, with practically non-existent support staff, especially with kids that young). This was in one of the top schools in a good school district, too.

Lots of teachers starting out get stuck in some of the worst schools in districts desperate to employ anyone with a teaching license. Yeah, you get summers off, spring break, and two weeks for Christmas, the rest of the year you spend doing lesson plans, staying late to deal with conferences, staff meetings, and school activities - sports events, dances, clubs, etc... Not to mention you get the fun of dealing with a population you'll never encounter again outside of prison - the kids who at age 14 think it's an appropriate decision to hit you in the face with a stapler because you didn't tell them you liked their new shoes (true story). Couple that with making $45k/year minus student loan payments and suddenly it's no wonder that 50% of teachers quit within five years.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's not for everyone.

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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

To me I would say knowing someone is how most people get their jobs otherwise its something they feel they really wanted to do. I wanted to become a Carpenter, Im not one. Instead most of my jobs have been through someone I know or rather Ive been told about some jobs going and I should apply.
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

I ended up in videogames by pure coincidence, because I knew a guy who knew a guy. Don't really like the industry and want to change.

I never knew what I wanted to do professionally, so I'm trying to figure it out trail and error style. Obviously not the best method though, especially because changing industries hasn't been easy so far.
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

Quote: (04-02-2014 10:40 PM)Osiris Wrote:  

Quote: (04-02-2014 11:18 AM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

I sort of wish I would have went into teaching. I had jobs teaching during college sorta enjoyed it, more laid back atmosphere than business, plus I like having side hustles, worklife balance, freetime. Teacher you out of work early, plenty of time off during the year as well as summers, could easily have a second business on the side and plenty of time to travel and do fun stuff. It's a hard thing to get back into. It's not like other things where you can take night classes while your working. Teaching no way around student teaching which is 6 months, technically not supposed to have another job, and have to pay the school to monitor your student teaching. I can't afford nor do I want to be out fo work for 6 months while paying for school.

Some teachers I know have had massive real estate things going on, they go to school to get additional funding so they can buy another house that much quicker.

It is not, however, an easy job. One time for some extra cash and to get an opportunity at another school, I said I'd teach over spring break. What I signed up for was teaching about 10 middle schoolers how to make a website, however, when I showed up I got stuck with 45 fucking 3rd-5th graders and found out I'd be teaching gym for four hours a day. I was a lot more prepared than many teachers would be, but even then it was hell of earth (that's a lot of students to be responsible for, in a school you've never been at, with practically non-existent support staff, especially with kids that young). This was in one of the top schools in a good school district, too.

Lots of teachers starting out get stuck in some of the worst schools in districts desperate to employ anyone with a teaching license. Yeah, you get summers off, spring break, and two weeks for Christmas, the rest of the year you spend doing lesson plans, staying late to deal with conferences, staff meetings, and school activities - sports events, dances, clubs, etc... Not to mention you get the fun of dealing with a population you'll never encounter again outside of prison - the kids who at age 14 think it's an appropriate decision to hit you in the face with a stapler because you didn't tell them you liked their new shoes (true story). Couple that with making $45k/year minus student loan payments and suddenly it's no wonder that 50% of teachers quit within five years.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's not for everyone.

Yeah I guess depending on the grade, schooo, etc can be different. I have two cousins who are gym teachers, one makes about 70k a year the other over 100k, I think its pretty ridiculous but we have good school districts in my area and probably a strong teachers union. They make a pretty good salary startingout like mid 40's and then every sport they coach is an extra 7k - 9k so teach 3 sports a year and make an extra 20k. they also got the school to pay for their masters and not only that they actually brought the professors into the school so they just walked to the cafeteria for class. convenient, paid for and will get a raise when they complete it.

years ago i thought about moving as many states have teacher shortages and dont require a license or teaching experience or schooling just a bachelors. many will also pay reloaction costs, pay a downpayment on your house, pay your first year of rent.

my state you need a license, we do have a fast track program in chicago where if you teach in the ghetto they start you off at like 46k and you just have to go through a 3 week training program during summer before starting but i dont really wanna go that route.

i have my own business now which is taking off so thats my plan not realy trying to work for someone else but had i had it to do all over again i would have been a teacher instead of getting a communications degree.
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How To Even Know About Diff Jobs/Careers...How Did You Get Into Your Line Of Work?

I did a biochemistry degree, then ended up in IT. My biochemistry career lasted 3 months, I've been in IT for 16 years.

Thanks to pants for injecting some alpha thinking into this thread.

I got my career in IT because I applied for jobs in IT. That's the first step.

The second step is to blag. Hmm, my new boss asked me if I'd programmed in Perl, as I put it on my resume.

F*ck. Anyway, blag away. IT is a bullshit industry, but I know a doctor, and he just blags it. How the f*ck should he know what's wrong with you?
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